People are boycotting Lisa

[Mr. Stefani]

http://perezhilton.com/ to read about it.

[raya]

Perez Hilton, that gossip columnist, has always had it out for Lisa and generally reports things that make fun of her.

I don't necessarily always agree with some of Lisa's writing and methods but I certainly welcome her right to have them and write about them.

[SBTB Geek]

It's not in the front page anymore...
http://www.perezhilton.com/topics/li...r_20060716.php

I don't completely disagree with the "boycott." The way she treats her children is disgusting. Thankfully her antics haven't ruined FOL for me.

[FOL85NatandMrsGRock]

OMG! I was reading the excerps that were put on a seperate website with highlighted sections and i cannot BELIEVE what i was reading! I took an adolescent psychology class last fall during college and i learned so many things opposite to waht lisa was claiming. She was saying that it's ok to back down and that it's ok to say, "we'll give you your punishment later" but i learned in psychology class that you should never back down from what you initially said to your child as a punishment becuase then the child will think that they could easily get out of any other punishment and not trust or rely on what you say. Also, you should not give your child the punishment later becuase they will not understand or even remember what they did wrong to deserve it, or they might devise a scheme to get out of the trouble by then. I also learned that spankings are the worst type of punishment to give, becuase it demeans the child and lowers their self image, it also makes them afraid of you. Time outs are the most effective thing and should be administered right away. I find lisa's tactics to be the most horrible i have ever read and i cannot believe the things she forces her children to do!!!

[JoPol_wannabe]

I'm sorry but that website is awful trying to stop Lisa Whelcel that isn't right. I mean people are entitled to have there opinions about Lisa but its her right to raise her kids however she wants I mean as long as she isn't doing something like slapping her kids to the point they have marks all over them or burises its ok. My mom spanked me when I was a kid and I turned out just fine. Also she has a child with ADHD and she has to get somewhat creative with her discipline. My best friend’s brother has ADHD pretty bad and his mom has to get pretty creative on how to discipline him or he just rebels and runs away. Also from reading Lisa's journals her kids seem fine with how she disciplines them I mean they are good Christian kids so she must be doing something right. I agree with you raya like you said I don't agree with all of Lisa’s writing and methods but she has a right to have them and write about them.

[FOL85NatandMrsGRock]

I have ADHD, of course it's not as bad as it used to be when i was a kid, but i hate when people blame things on the ADHD, we are just as normal! We just have more energy and an attention span of like 2 seconds... but that is why we are on medication. So please... don't go blaming her methods on the ADHD, it's not like we have a disability and can't handle discipline!

Of course she has a write to have her own methods and express them, i just feel that they seem so out of line with what could be done! But as long as she's happy with how her kids turn out... all that matters

[Justwondering]

There is an old saying that to keep civility, you shouldn't publicly discuss religion or politics. I'm given to the notion that you can throw child-rearing methods in that lot, too.

These days, if your children grow up to be well-adjusted, productive citizens, you've done a pretty damn good job as a parent, particularly given all the "vices" with which children can get involved.

If you follow Lisa's online journal, it appears she has raised three good kids, despite whatever her perceived parental shortcomings are. Her stated goal is to teach them right from wrong and to live "in a godly manner." None of us know her family well enough to comment on that.

As for Lisa's Creative Correction book, it is merely a compilation of suggestions for disciplining kids. Some may work, many likely don't work, and others may make you cringe at the thought of attempting them. However, keep in mind that it only represents her opinion, so take it for what's its worth. I don't support a boycott of her. Each of us has the right to free speech, and so I say, let her be heard: If her parenting techniques are indeed foolish, the public will see that. . . In the end, she is a Christian lady who means well; so. don't beat her up too badly for that.

[JNSBSB]

I hope this boycott Blair thing doesn't hurt FOL sales. It's only one character. If you're going to boycott Lisa Whelchel, boycott the x-actress and her books, not the FOL.

[Sammy Reed]

What "boycott" could there possibly be?
They don't like her books, so they won't buy her books. That's it.
I guess I'm "boycotting" Danielle Steel, if that's the case.

[ABlairican Pie]

Originally Posted by JNSBSB

I hope this boycott Blair thing doesn't hurt FOL sales. It's only one character. If you're going to boycott Lisa Whelchel, boycott the x-actress and her books, not the FOL.

That thing is so old, that's last year's news. The book is actually good, I think whatever "questionable" things in her parenting ideas she has, I think she may have gotten them from friends, and I don't think she's even applied them all as the book might imply.
I think she wrote a lot of things to give ideas, but not as a straight on rulebook on parenting. She even admits she doesn't find parenting easy. The book was written before her kids became teenagers, so it's a different thing all together for her now. The idea I got from the book was something quite different from the "evil hot sauce mommy" people would later make her out to be, it was actually informative and very creative. No one is "boycotting" her. She actually wrote the book as a way to help instill discipline methods into her children with special emotional temperaments, not as a recipe for "cruelty". If people really listened to what she says in her journals, they'd get a completely different picture of her than some "mean mommy". She doesn't need to be "boycotted". I'd never think that anything she has said or done last year would reflect on the sales this past spring on the FOL DVDs.

[sarah2112]

Holy crap, THIS is disturbing:

p.138
"As we walk along together shopping, I will suddenly give them silly commands that they must obey without arguing, such as `Walk backward,' or `Stop and touch your toes,' or `Give me a kiss.' Occasionally I'll throw in a real command, like `Don't touch that,' or `No, you may not have an Icee.' My favorite curve, however, is to say no to some reasonable request, like `May I go to the bathroom?'"

[FOL85NatandMrsGRock]

wow! That is really REALLY disturbing!

[sarah2112]

I'm not against strict discipline, but I see no need to play cruel mind games.

[ABlairican Pie]

As much as I love and respect Lisa and all that, I had to go back and look at that passage on Page 138 in her book. It was a game, as they grew older, it was all about doing arbitrary things without question, I suppose as an example of obeying God's commands without question. Well, with God, that's one thing, but haven't people blindly followed orders of authoritarian humans to their own peril over the decades? I've always believed that when God spoke to us and we couldn't understand it, we would have a peace and have SOME idea of what He was doing, rather than blindly accepting and doing. This is very disturbing of Lisa to do this. I hate to say it, but it is cultic. Many authoritarian religious institutions have withheld bathroom priviledges from adherents as a way of controlling them. Could Lisa not have been given a good honest critique from parenting experts before publishing this book?

[SBTB Geek]

Originally Posted by sarah2112

Holy crap, THIS is disturbing:

p.138
"As we walk along together shopping, I will suddenly give them silly commands that they must obey without arguing, such as `Walk backward,' or `Stop and touch your toes,' or `Give me a kiss.' Occasionally I'll throw in a real command, like `Don't touch that,' or `No, you may not have an Icee.' My favorite curve, however, is to say no to some reasonable request, like `May I go to the bathroom?'"

Oh wow. The bitch is crazy.