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DazzlerSparkler · 07-13-2006, 10:20 AM

YESS! I looked on the Lifetime website. And tomorrow they will be showing the segment with JJH! YESS! I have waited sooo long to see this one. Do you think it will be updated, I mean, since they found the guy....?

angel25 · 07-13-2006, 07:44 PM

He was probably sentenced to many years in prison, All I know though is that they caught Jesse James, and I am glad they did too. That was terrible what happened to Nick, So I am glad they caught him!

DarkDante · 07-13-2006, 08:12 PM

^ Jesse James Hollywood has not been tried yet as of this date. However it has been mentioned that if Hollywood is convicted he could face the death penalty.

dynoguy88 · 07-13-2006, 10:56 PM

Hollywood was captured just last March so I doubt there will be an update since he hasn't gone on trial yet.

Dislimb · 07-14-2006, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkDante

^ Jesse James Hollywood has not been tried yet as of this date. However it has been mentioned that if Hollywood is convicted he could face the death penalty.

Wow, I didn't know they could do that if they know for a fact a person wasn't even at the scene of the crime. Don't get me wrong, I'm not sticking up for the scumbag at all, I just wasn't aware the he could receive such a penalty.

LooksLikeCRicci · 07-15-2006, 12:43 AM

Charles Manson was given the death penalty (or sentenced to life, I don't remember which) for his role in the Sharon Tate murders... and if my recollection of the book Helter Skelter serves me correctly, I don't think he was there, either. He just ordered the murders to take place.

I know the movie has been mentioned on threads before. I really am interested in seeing how it all works out...

skunk ape · 07-15-2006, 03:50 AM

It's called conspiracy to commit murder. Being that Jesse was the leader who set-up the kidnapping and set-up the murder, he will be a perfect candidate for the death penalty, along with the triggerman/men. The other co-conspirators will get life or make deals for lighter sentences.
Being that Nick was kidnapped then killed, it will come with a very harsh punishment, just like if during an armed robbery, a clerk gets killed. A murder during the commission of a felony gets an automatic life sentence in probably most (if not all) of the states now.

Does anyone know if the suspects, other than Jesse, went to trial yet in this case?
Also, wasn't this case featured on American Justice? (I have seen it somewhere before, but just saw it on UM for the first time today.)

Mr. Fuji · 07-15-2006, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LooksLikeCRicci

Charles Manson was given the death penalty (or sentenced to life, I don't remember which) for his role in the Sharon Tate murders... and if my recollection of the book Helter Skelter serves me correctly, I don't think he was there, either. He just ordered the murders to take place.

I know the movie has been mentioned on threads before. I really am interested in seeing how it all works out...

Manson was given a life sentence, not the death penalty.

skunk ape · 07-15-2006, 04:22 PM

Manson was sentenced to death, but it was commuted to life after the California Supreme Court's People vs. Anderson decision overturned all death penalties that were imposed before 1972 and changed the sentence for those offenders to life in prison.

kadrmas15 · 07-15-2006, 04:50 PM

Charlie Manson was sentenced to death. However he was actually only charged with one count of conspiracy to commit murder and was charged with 7 counts of murder or whatever it was. Manson was sentenced to death in 1970 or 1971 however in 1972 the California State Supreme Court ruled that the death penalty was unconstitutional and so all the people who were on death row in California their sentences were automatically commuted to life. That was also before there was such a thing as a life without parole sentence and according to the sentencing guidelines at the time of the crime was 1969 and back then if you were sentenced to life for first degree murder in California you became eligible for parole after serving just 6 years. Manson, Tex Watson, Susan Atkins and Patricia Krenwinkel were all sentenced to death. Leslie Van Houten was also originally sentenced to death but got a new trial and in that based on 1969 sentencing guidelines was sentenced to 7 years to life. All of them are still in prison and I think the fact Van Houten is still in there is crap considering she wasnt even at the Tate Murders but was at the LaBianca murders but she didnt kill either one of them and didnt even stab either one when they were alive. She h eld down one of them but they are just keeping her in because no one wants to be the person that released a member of the Manson family.

SiberianKiss · 07-15-2006, 10:09 PM

he won't get the death penalty but he also has no chance of being set free, he'll get life without parole.

I'm curious to know on the unsolved msyeries segment, what did they show? Did they have any clues as to his whereabouts? Did they guess at all? Did they mention it was very likely his father was helping him?

thanks.

DarkDante · 07-16-2006, 11:47 AM

^ I wouldn't be too quick to rule out the death penalty for Mr. Hollywood given the circumstances. I believe one of his buddies who was involved in Nick's murder has already been sentenced to death.

The "Unsolved Mysteries" segment being a bi-product of the LIFETIME re-edits didn't go into much detail at all about the case. They interviewed Nick's family including his brother Ben, who was in jail at the time on another offense.

They went into the crime but just said Jesse James Hollywood had disappeared while all of his running buddies (including a kid who looked like he was about ten years old) were arrested and according to the website that Nick's mom has set up in his memory have all since been convicted and either been sentenced to death or lengthy jail terms.

The only left to be tried from what I can see is JJH.

07-13-2006, 10:20 AM	#1
DazzlerSparkler Sharon Kinne Imposter Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 29, 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 725	Jesse James Hollywood! YESS! I looked on the Lifetime website. And tomorrow they will be showing the segment with JJH! YESS! I have waited sooo long to see this one. Do you think it will be updated, I mean, since they found the guy....?
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07-13-2006, 10:56 PM	#4
dynoguy88 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 01, 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 3,674	reply Hollywood was captured just last March so I doubt there will be an update since he hasn't gone on trial yet.

07-15-2006, 03:50 AM	#7
skunk ape Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 25, 2006 Location: FL Posts: 167	It's called conspiracy to commit murder. Being that Jesse was the leader who set-up the kidnapping and set-up the murder, he will be a perfect candidate for the death penalty, along with the triggerman/men. The other co-conspirators will get life or make deals for lighter sentences. Being that Nick was kidnapped then killed, it will come with a very harsh punishment, just like if during an armed robbery, a clerk gets killed. A murder during the commission of a felony gets an automatic life sentence in probably most (if not all) of the states now. Does anyone know if the suspects, other than Jesse, went to trial yet in this case? Also, wasn't this case featured on American Justice? (I have seen it somewhere before, but just saw it on UM for the first time today.)
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07-13-2006, 07:44 PM	#2
angel25 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jun 24, 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 34	He was probably sentenced to many years in prison, All I know though is that they caught Jesse James, and I am glad they did too. That was terrible what happened to Nick, So I am glad they caught him!

07-13-2006, 08:12 PM	#3
DarkDante Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 27, 2002 Posts: 1,569	^ Jesse James Hollywood has not been tried yet as of this date. However it has been mentioned that if Hollywood is convicted he could face the death penalty.

07-15-2006, 12:43 AM	#6
LooksLikeCRicci Likes to live in a clean house Moderator Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 4,050	Charles Manson was given the death penalty (or sentenced to life, I don't remember which) for his role in the Sharon Tate murders... and if my recollection of the book Helter Skelter serves me correctly, I don't think he was there, either. He just ordered the murders to take place. I know the movie has been mentioned on threads before. I really am interested in seeing how it all works out...

07-15-2006, 04:22 PM	#9
skunk ape Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 25, 2006 Location: FL Posts: 167	Manson was sentenced to death, but it was commuted to life after the California Supreme Court's People vs. Anderson decision overturned all death penalties that were imposed before 1972 and changed the sentence for those offenders to life in prison.

07-15-2006, 04:50 PM	#10
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Charlie Manson was sentenced to death. However he was actually only charged with one count of conspiracy to commit murder and was charged with 7 counts of murder or whatever it was. Manson was sentenced to death in 1970 or 1971 however in 1972 the California State Supreme Court ruled that the death penalty was unconstitutional and so all the people who were on death row in California their sentences were automatically commuted to life. That was also before there was such a thing as a life without parole sentence and according to the sentencing guidelines at the time of the crime was 1969 and back then if you were sentenced to life for first degree murder in California you became eligible for parole after serving just 6 years. Manson, Tex Watson, Susan Atkins and Patricia Krenwinkel were all sentenced to death. Leslie Van Houten was also originally sentenced to death but got a new trial and in that based on 1969 sentencing guidelines was sentenced to 7 years to life. All of them are still in prison and I think the fact Van Houten is still in there is crap considering she wasnt even at the Tate Murders but was at the LaBianca murders but she didnt kill either one of them and didnt even stab either one when they were alive. She h eld down one of them but they are just keeping her in because no one wants to be the person that released a member of the Manson family.

07-15-2006, 10:09 PM	#11
SiberianKiss Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 08, 2006 Posts: 204	he won't get the death penalty but he also has no chance of being set free, he'll get life without parole. I'm curious to know on the unsolved msyeries segment, what did they show? Did they have any clues as to his whereabouts? Did they guess at all? Did they mention it was very likely his father was helping him? thanks.

07-16-2006, 11:47 AM	#12
DarkDante Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 27, 2002 Posts: 1,569	^ I wouldn't be too quick to rule out the death penalty for Mr. Hollywood given the circumstances. I believe one of his buddies who was involved in Nick's murder has already been sentenced to death. The "Unsolved Mysteries" segment being a bi-product of the LIFETIME re-edits didn't go into much detail at all about the case. They interviewed Nick's family including his brother Ben, who was in jail at the time on another offense. They went into the crime but just said Jesse James Hollywood had disappeared while all of his running buddies (including a kid who looked like he was about ten years old) were arrested and according to the website that Nick's mom has set up in his memory have all since been convicted and either been sentenced to death or lengthy jail terms. The only left to be tried from what I can see is JJH.