Response for Lamont

[Lee G]

Since the other thread is locked, I'm posting my reply to Lamont here.

As far as I see it Lamont, If a person is going to involve themself in this trading business, then that individual has to be able to deliver fault-free goods. Anyone can get hold of a bad DVD or defective VHS tape once in a while. But there is no reason to send someone DVD's with duplicate episodes and no sound. There is no excuse for it whatsoever. It doesn't matter how many DVD's/shows are involved. If a person won't check their stuff because "they don't have time" or "it's too much trouble/too many episodes", whatever, then don't trade. This board is a risky place, there are people who are not careful with what they do, and the chances of getting inferior quality stuff/episodes taken from TV with scenes cut and other problems is too great. So from now on, I'm obtaining official DVD TV show releases only. The quality is great, and the shows are uncut.

[Lamont]

ok FOR THE RECORD--- this is like 3rd time its been stated and i cannot understand why people cannot get it

IF A MODERATOR LOCKS A THREAD--- that is your clue to STOP THE CONVERSATION

geesh!

and as for watching every ep all the way through--- SIR thats just no practical

i have about 25,000 hours of shows on my list
AM I SUPPOSED TO WATCH EVERY SINGLE EPISODE all the way through?

i do the best i can, i check against ep guides, i check multiple discs for quality and issues, i run them through a verify process
but i cannot watch EVERY SINGLE DISC in real time all the way through, its NOT practical and not realistic

i was not picking a fight with you, just pointing out how trading works and pointing out that there is a RIGHT way to handle an issue, and a wrong way to handle an issue

and with a set of 150+ eps, this could have been handled better and been fixed and resolved

ALSO--- official studio releases are OFTEN not uncut either--- check out roseanne? the first couple seasons were SYNDICATED VERSIONS on the official releases! many sets come out like that and on LOTSA LUCK set with DOM DELUISE, studio release!--- they actually LEFT OFF AN EP that is listed on the set, and later u could get it by the website--- so EVEN THE STUDIOS mess up!

NOW SINCE THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN LOCKED repeatedly, i wonder how many more times it will be brought back up in new threads????

[Lamont]

for the record also
i got emails from a HOTMAIL member annonymously yesterday ( a moderator can verify this) commenting on this issue and insulting me for speaking out as i did

id like to challenge that person, who emailed me ANNONYMOUSLY 2 times through a hotmail account, BUT WHO OBVIOUSLY is a member of this board--- or at least a FORMER/BANNED member of this board, id challenge them if they feel so strongly to email me annonymously and insult me, to stand behind their words and post publicly what they emailed me under their REAL NAMES!

its easy for someone to stay in the shadows and toss pot shots without saying who they are!

if that person feels so strongly, they should be willing to stand up and say so!

[digitalmonkey]

The private message feature is your friend.

[T-Greg]

Originally Posted by Lee G

Since the other thread is locked, I'm posting my reply to Lamont here.

So from now on, I'm obtaining official DVD TV show releases only. The quality is great, and the shows are uncut.

I don't know anything about your dispute with Lamont, but the reason people are here is to get things that they won't ever see (as far as they know) on an official release. Also, don't assume that shows on official releases are uncut. Many, many shows are cut BIG on some releases!

[Lamont]

LEE G has no dispute with me
ive never dealt with him

he had issue with loren (on another thread) about a hazel set that was not perfect
i spoke up and pointed out that trading is NOT an exact science and that sometimes sets are not perfect
and apparently it fell on deaf ears

[TVFactFan]

Originally Posted by Lee G

Since the other thread is locked, I'm posting my reply to Lamont here.

As far as I see it Lamont, If a person is going to involve themself in this trading business, then that individual has to be able to deliver fault-free goods. Anyone can get hold of a bad DVD or defective VHS tape once in a while. But there is no reason to send someone DVD's with duplicate episodes and no sound. There is no excuse for it whatsoever. It doesn't matter how many DVD's/shows are involved. If a person won't check their stuff because "they don't have time" or "it's too much trouble/too many episodes", whatever, then don't trade. This board is a risky place, there are people who are not careful with what they do, and the chances of getting inferior quality stuff/episodes taken from TV with scenes cut and other problems is too great. So from now on, I'm obtaining official DVD TV show releases only. The quality is great, and the shows are uncut.

I think traders should get a Disc at a time and not the complete set because that way a DVD trader can check every ep on that ONE DISC. But I guess it would be impossible to check every ep on each disc if someone is gettting a complete sereis. I still feel it's way too risky to recieve a complete show on DVD. One disc at a Time or maybe two.

[Lee G]

Yes Lamont. I am well aware why threads get locked. I don't agree with it, but I understand. I was simply responding to you because you had responded to me. You gave your opinion, and I gave mine. There is no dispute. 'Nuff said.

As far as official DVD TV show releases having cut episodes, it depends on the source. If the release is from some low budget, fly by night outfit, it could be possible. The stuff I have is all from major studios like Sony/Universal/Warner Bros. and the shows are always uncut.

[TVFactFan]

Originally Posted by Lamont

ok FOR THE RECORD--- this is like 3rd time its been stated and i cannot understand why people cannot get it

IF A MODERATOR LOCKS A THREAD--- that is your clue to STOP THE CONVERSATION

geesh!

and as for watching every ep all the way through--- SIR thats just no practical

i have about 25,000 hours of shows on my list
AM I SUPPOSED TO WATCH EVERY SINGLE EPISODE all the way through?

i do the best i can, i check against ep guides, i check multiple discs for quality and issues, i run them through a verify process
but i cannot watch EVERY SINGLE DISC in real time all the way through, its NOT practical and not realistic

i was not picking a fight with you, just pointing out how trading works and pointing out that there is a RIGHT way to handle an issue, and a wrong way to handle an issue

and with a set of 150+ eps, this could have been handled better and been fixed and resolved

ALSO--- official studio releases are OFTEN not uncut either--- check out roseanne? the first couple seasons were SYNDICATED VERSIONS on the official releases! many sets come out like that and on LOTSA LUCK set with DOM DELUISE, studio release!--- they actually LEFT OFF AN EP that is listed on the set, and later u could get it by the website--- so EVEN THE STUDIOS mess up!

NOW SINCE THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN LOCKED repeatedly, i wonder how many more times it will be brought back up in new threads????

So since you are unable to check every ep should that mean no one should trade complete series? I mean because let's say they watch the first 4 eps and while watching those 4 it's a lot of freezing or no sound or some type of glitch. So should the trades be smaller?

[digitalmonkey]

Originally Posted by Lee G

Yes Lamont. I am well aware why threads get locked. I don't agree with it, but I understand. I was simply responding to you because you had responded to me. You gave your opinion, and I gave mine. There is no dispute. 'Nuff said.

As far as official DVD TV show releases having cut episodes, it depends on the source. If the release is from some low budget, fly by night outfit, it could be possible. The stuff I have is all from major studios like Sony/Universal/Warner Bros. and the shows are always uncut.

[TVFactFan]

Originally Posted by digitalmonkey

yeah that is a good point-lol I was so surprised a popular show like the cosby show was edited

[Lamont]

1. BIG RELEASES all the time are cut, Cosby Show, Roseanne, etc, etc, etc
MANY sets are CUT versions -- some sets such as MY FAVORITE MARTIAN have a mix of both, its not just the low budget companies is a BIG ISSUE with many releases--- IF ITS THAT IMPORTANT to someone if its uncut, they need to ASK FIRST and not assume

2. as for TVRESEARCHER--- u r flat out wrong, solomon
trading 1 disc at a time is just plain ridiculous, nothing personal, but it is silly
and NOONE except you does that---- at that rate, it would have taken me years to complete the GUNSMOKE or MY THREE SONS sets

3. i DO check sets, BUT i cannot watch every second of every show,

4. out of ALL THE TRADES i did last year--- i had like 3 problems TOTAL! 1 set had a mislabeled episodes--- NO BIGGIE, i contacted the maker of the set, who just redid that disc with the right ep--- another set was missing an ep that was supposed to be there--- AGAIN NO BIGGIE, the guy redid the disc and filled it in, and another set had issues with a few eps being OUT OF SYNCH audio wise, and so i got a new replacement set in--- so the problems that TVRESEARCHER is worried about simply are not happening on any large scale

[TVFactFan]

Originally Posted by Lamont

1. BIG RELEASES all the time are cut, Cosby Show, Roseanne, etc, etc, etc
MANY sets are CUT versions -- some sets such as MY FAVORITE MARTIAN have a mix of both, its not just the low budget companies is a BIG ISSUE with many releases--- IF ITS THAT IMPORTANT to someone if its uncut, they need to ASK FIRST and not assume

2. as for TVRESEARCHER--- u r flat out wrong, solomon
trading 1 disc at a time is just plain ridiculous, nothing personal, but it is silly
and NOONE except you does that---- at that rate, it would have taken me years to complete the GUNSMOKE or MY THREE SONS sets

3. i DO check sets, BUT i cannot watch every second of every show,

4. out of ALL THE TRADES i did last year--- i had like 3 problems TOTAL! 1 set had a mislabeled episodes--- NO BIGGIE, i contacted the maker of the set, who just redid that disc with the right ep--- another set was missing an ep that was supposed to be there--- AGAIN NO BIGGIE, the guy redid the disc and filled it in, and another set had issues with a few eps being OUT OF SYNCH audio wise, and so i got a new replacement set in--- so the problems that TVRESEARCHER is worried about simply are not happening on any large scale

I'm just saying that a person will watch these eps on 19 discs or 20 discs eventually and what if the glitches are on Disc 1? See what I'm saying? So i think that getting a complete set is just asking for a lot of problems. And here is what is happening, you and 8 other traders may feel the same way about not watching every ep which meands that a defective set is going to be passed around and around because NO ONE is watching to see what the problems are. Do u see what i mean?

[Lee G]

Originally Posted by Lamont

LEE G has no dispute with me
ive never dealt with him

he had issue with loren (on another thread) about a hazel set that was not perfect
i spoke up and pointed out that trading is NOT an exact science and that sometimes sets are not perfect
and apparently it fell on deaf ears

Yes, trading is not a perfect/exact science. Picture and sound quality are usually the main issues. But sending out DVD's with duplicate episodes and no sound at all is inexcusable. 'Nuff said.

[savageamusement]

Originally Posted by Lamont

for the record also
i got emails from a HOTMAIL member annonymously yesterday ( a moderator can verify this) commenting on this issue and insulting me for speaking out as i did

id like to challenge that person, who emailed me ANNONYMOUSLY 2 times through a hotmail account, BUT WHO OBVIOUSLY is a member of this board--- or at least a FORMER/BANNED member of this board, id challenge them if they feel so strongly to email me annonymously and insult me, to stand behind their words and post publicly what they emailed me under their REAL NAMES!

its easy for someone to stay in the shadows and toss pot shots without saying who they are!

if that person feels so strongly, they should be willing to stand up and say so!

You can challenge them, but its rare they come forward.

I have found those who argue through accounts that are 2 days old, the ones with no comments, or were sut up just to say something- as well as the "hotmail and yahoo acocunts"
that are set up the day of - just to say something are people who aren't able to had identified confrontation.
To me, its cowardly. *shrug* just my opinion.
If you have something to say, say it-argue it, whatever.
But to set up a fake account just to email someone so they don't know who you are, I find what thye have to say far less meaningful and far less important- than those who stand up to their name, stand up to me, or stand up for their arguement and opinion.

It comes down to this, if they don't want me to KNOW who they are, they are either hiding, or choosing a deceptive means to say it.

Kinda like hitting someone and running away, having to have the last word- and so on. Its a feeble way to say something.