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Nighthawk76 · 06-29-2006, 04:35 PM

Some months back, I started what became a pretty controversial thread in which I said that Prince was overrated. The infamous thread was called "Prince Is Overrated". At that time I have to be honest and say that I didn't know all that much about Prince. The only albums I had by him were 1999, Purple Rain and The Very Best Of Prince. And considering that any serious music fan probably has both 1999 and Purple Rain in his or her music collection, that made me far from an expert on him.

In the past few months I have added some more Prince to my music collection with 1987's Sign 'O' The Times, 1991's Diamonds And Pearls and his new album, 3121. Though I'm still far from an expert on Prince, I have much more respect for the man than I did before. He is a talented musician and songwriter. So I am happy to say that Prince is NOT overrated.

I would like to add that Prince is one of the few middle aged artists that is still making good music and doesn't have to rely on past glories like The Rolling Stones, Elton John, Paul McCartny and so many others.

Brian Damage · 06-29-2006, 04:43 PM

To be honest, I didn't even know Prince was rated nowadays.

Nighthawk76 · 06-29-2006, 04:47 PM

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To be honest, I didn't even know Prince was rated nowadays.

He doesn't sell as many albums as he used to, but music should always be judged on quality and not quanity. Rush have never really sold a lot of albums, in fact they haven't had a million seller since 1985, but I still love those guys.

And they too are one of the few veteran artists who still turn out great music.

Britney Spears has sold tons of albums and she sucks.

Brian Damage · 06-29-2006, 04:49 PM

I know he doesn't sell anymore like he use to. I think it is more because a lot of his stuff just doesn't appeal to most people. He just doesn't have it anymore.

Ireneparalegal · 06-29-2006, 04:51 PM

PRINCE IS THEE MAN...Thanx for looking into the musical genius and seeing what the rest of us already knew. It's not abt "selling"...hell, anyone can do that, but what good is all the CD selling if the quality sucks? He is original, he is a genius, he sings, dances and plays instruments. I always said back when he first came on the scene, "This guy is gonna be around for a LONG TIME!" Glad to see you appreciate him now. Hope you enjoy his music for what it is...not for how many units he sells.

Rene · 06-29-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

PRINCE IS THEE MAN...Thanx for looking into the musical genius and seeing what the rest of us already knew. It's not abt "selling"...hell, anyone can do that, but what good is all the CD selling if the quality sucks? He is original, he is a genius, he sings, dances and plays instruments. I always said back when he first came on the scene, "This guy is gonna be around for a LONG TIME!" Glad to see you appreciate him now. Hope you enjoy his music for what it is...not for how many units he sells.

exactly

Nighthawk76 · 06-29-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

PRINCE IS THEE MAN...Thanx for looking into the musical genius and seeing what the rest of us already knew. It's not abt "selling"...hell, anyone can do that, but what good is all the CD selling if the quality sucks? He is original, he is a genius, he sings, dances and plays instruments. I always said back when he first came on the scene, "This guy is gonna be around for a LONG TIME!" Glad to see you appreciate him now. Hope you enjoy his music for what it is...not for how many units he sells.

It's funny. Four months ago I was calling the man overrated and now he is one of my favorite artists. I think part of it is that I have devloped more appreciation for R & B over the last year. Last fall I bought the Smokey Robinson Definitive Collection CD for the song "Being With You" and I just fell in love with Smokey and all his music. So that opened up a whole new appreciation for R & B for me.

Ireneparalegal · 06-29-2006, 07:22 PM

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It's funny. Four months ago I was calling the man overrated and now he is one of my favorite artists. I think part of it is that I have devloped more appreciation for R & B over the last year. Last fall I bought the Smokey Robinson Definitive Collection CD for the song "Being With You" and I just fell in love with Smokey and all his music. So that opened up a whole new appreciation for R & B for me.

"Being with You"...oh oh oh...that was MY SONG WHEN IT CAME OUT!!!! good choice DAX!!!!! I also have the Smokey Robinson Definitive Collection. Try the Temptations when you have a chance. Awesome, pure awesome. I am glad you are finding a new love for the music. I love all kinds of music, R&B, Pop, Country, some Rap, some Hip-Hop, music from 50's, 60,70's...rock music, especially 70's rock...gimme 60's rock as well. Have fun enjoying the music.

TJL · 06-29-2006, 07:43 PM

I'm waiting for him to change his name to some stupid symbol again before I render my vote.

SBTB Geek · 06-30-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

I know he doesn't sell anymore like he use to. I think it is more because a lot of his stuff just doesn't appeal to most people. He just doesn't have it anymore.

I don't his music is the problem. "Lolita," "Fury," and "Black Sweat" all had mainstream sound. I think most people are turned off by him, not his music. He's an odd guy.

Ireneparalegal · 06-30-2006, 12:11 PM

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I don't his music is the problem. "Lolita," "Fury," and "Black Sweat" all had mainstream sound. I think most people are turned off by him, not his music. He's an odd guy.

...ever heard of Michael Jackson? You know, the black guy who is now white?

vashti1999 · 07-01-2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DAX

Some months back, I started what became a pretty controversial thread in which I said that Prince was overrated. The infamous thread was called "Prince Is Overrated". At that time I have to be honest and say that I didn't know all that much about Prince. The only albums I had by him were 1999, Purple Rain and The Very Best Of Prince. And considering that any serious music fan probably has both 1999 and Purple Rain in his or her music collection, that made me far from an expert on him.

In the past few months I have added some more Prince to my music collection with 1987's Sign 'O' The Times, 1991's Diamonds And Pearls and his new album, 3121. Though I'm still far from an expert on Prince, I have much more respect for the man than I did before. He is a talented musician and songwriter. So I am happy to say that Prince is NOT overrated.

That's cool DAX. Glad to hear you've developed a deeper appreciation of Prince's music. Sometimes all it takes is a little more exposure to his music and a willingness to go along for the ride. Sign 'O' The Times was a good album for you to check out, probably the best of what he does best.

He's not just r&b though, if you sift through his stuff you'll find a lot of rock in there too. On another note, if you want to get into some good older r&b, check out Stevie Wonder. Namely those four cds I mentioned in the Stevie thread I posted. I've been listening to those very heavily lately and it's all amazing.

SBTB Geek · 07-02-2006, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

...ever heard of Michael Jackson? You know, the black guy who is now white?

Who said he isn't odd also?

vashti1999 · 07-02-2006, 02:11 AM

The "Prince is odd" argument is a weak one. What odd thing in relatively recent years has he done other than refer to himself as an unpronouncable symbol, which he stopped doing 5 or 6 years ago? I'll accept Prince's oddness as being more prevalent in the distant past, but to suggest that that may be a reason that "most people are turned off by him" now just doesn't make sense. In a music world dominated by young artists, chalk up any perceived lack of fan interest to his age and longevity, not his oddness. He's a 48 year old veteran who still draws excitement from fans (as evidenced by his recent Good Morning America appearance) and commands respect from fellow artists (as evidenced at the recent BET Awards). Maybe I'm too much inside a fan's world, but I don't see where all these people are who are "turned off" by him. And for those who say Prince "doesn't have it anymore," I guess that explains why as recently as two years ago he had the year's highest grossing tour and had a number 1 album earlier this year.

Nighthawk76 · 07-02-2006, 11:49 AM

I'm not sure I would go so far as to say that Prince is odd. He always seems to be the target of jokes. I think that with the exception of Michael Jackson, I don't think there is a musician that I have heard more jokes about than Prince. I've never really felt that he was odd. I think why Prince's record sales are not what they used to be is that he is an artist that experiments a great deal with his music. The music he is making now sounds very different from the music he was making 20 years ago. I think that is one of the reasons his fans love him so much, but the mainstream public has had a difficult time following his career. When I first played his new album, 3121, I wasn't sure what to think of it. I was like "this sure doesn't sound like Purple Rain or 1999." It took a few listens to really appreciate 3121. And the American record buying public tend to be pretty fickle about these sort of things.

06-29-2006, 04:35 PM	#1
Nighthawk76 Rachel Berry Forum Celebrity Join Date: Feb 28, 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 23,254	Prince Is NOT Overrated Some months back, I started what became a pretty controversial thread in which I said that Prince was overrated. The infamous thread was called "Prince Is Overrated". At that time I have to be honest and say that I didn't know all that much about Prince. The only albums I had by him were 1999, Purple Rain and The Very Best Of Prince. And considering that any serious music fan probably has both 1999 and Purple Rain in his or her music collection, that made me far from an expert on him. In the past few months I have added some more Prince to my music collection with 1987's Sign 'O' The Times, 1991's Diamonds And Pearls and his new album, 3121. Though I'm still far from an expert on Prince, I have much more respect for the man than I did before. He is a talented musician and songwriter. So I am happy to say that Prince is NOT overrated. I would like to add that Prince is one of the few middle aged artists that is still making good music and doesn't have to rely on past glories like The Rolling Stones, Elton John, Paul McCartny and so many others.

06-29-2006, 04:43 PM	#2
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06-29-2006, 04:49 PM	#4
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	I know he doesn't sell anymore like he use to. I think it is more because a lot of his stuff just doesn't appeal to most people. He just doesn't have it anymore.

07-02-2006, 02:11 AM	#14
vashti1999 NY METS - #1 Forum Fanatic Join Date: Oct 14, 2003 Location: The world's greatest city - New York City Posts: 11,404	The "Prince is odd" argument is a weak one. What odd thing in relatively recent years has he done other than refer to himself as an unpronouncable symbol, which he stopped doing 5 or 6 years ago? I'll accept Prince's oddness as being more prevalent in the distant past, but to suggest that that may be a reason that "most people are turned off by him" now just doesn't make sense. In a music world dominated by young artists, chalk up any perceived lack of fan interest to his age and longevity, not his oddness. He's a 48 year old veteran who still draws excitement from fans (as evidenced by his recent Good Morning America appearance) and commands respect from fellow artists (as evidenced at the recent BET Awards). Maybe I'm too much inside a fan's world, but I don't see where all these people are who are "turned off" by him. And for those who say Prince "doesn't have it anymore," I guess that explains why as recently as two years ago he had the year's highest grossing tour and had a number 1 album earlier this year.

07-02-2006, 11:49 AM	#15
Nighthawk76 Rachel Berry Forum Celebrity Join Date: Feb 28, 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 23,254	I'm not sure I would go so far as to say that Prince is odd. He always seems to be the target of jokes. I think that with the exception of Michael Jackson, I don't think there is a musician that I have heard more jokes about than Prince. I've never really felt that he was odd. I think why Prince's record sales are not what they used to be is that he is an artist that experiments a great deal with his music. The music he is making now sounds very different from the music he was making 20 years ago. I think that is one of the reasons his fans love him so much, but the mainstream public has had a difficult time following his career. When I first played his new album, 3121, I wasn't sure what to think of it. I was like "this sure doesn't sound like Purple Rain or 1999." It took a few listens to really appreciate 3121. And the American record buying public tend to be pretty fickle about these sort of things.