Haunting Evidence is Horrible!

[mercy1825]

I am sorry that I must differ with some of you who like this show. I think it is the worst show on CourtTv and really seems to do a disservice to psychic investigations. I have watched both episodes that have aired so far. In the more recent one, the case of the missing district attorney from Pennsylvania, the woman psychic provided absolutely NO NEW evidence other than she thought a man was watching him from outside the courthouse. That will not be of much help at all.

I live in the general area of where this crime occurred and everything these psychics said was all available to the general public in the newspapers, TV news, etc. I know they said that these three were not given any information about the case, but are we just supposed to take their word for it? It would have taken all of 5 minutes for one of them to search on the internet and find out all the information they said that they were "seeing". Even if they were not given the victim's name before the show, I am sure they did know WHERE they were going since they had to catch a plane or some other form of transportation to get there. All they would have to do is look into famous unsolved cases in that area, (and in this particular area there are very, very few, if any at all other than this) and find out what they said beforehand. This case has been a HUGE news story since it happened 4/15/05.

I am sorry, but in either episode they provided little NEW information that would be at all RELEVANT to the police investigation.

[nohwheregirl]

I definitely didn't like the second episode as much as the first. Like you said, it is a high-profile case. I was surprised they would feature something that's been in the national news. Also, when then male psychic drew the map and it just happened to look like a place that the detective already had in mind, it didn't really have the "WOW!" effect that they intended. It was more like, "Well duh, of course the detective is going to think it's a place where the victim was sighted."

I think the contribution they made in the first episode was giving the police a motive. They were puzzled by why the killer would stalk and murder someone without sexually assaulting them, and the psychic believed that he took photos of her so that he could "see death." Total BS? Could be.

[SpockSarah]

HAUNTING EVIDENCE

Ok, I just watched it, and nothing. I am left totally nonplussed. Aside from the medium guy rolling his eyes back in his head, and your garden variety re-enactment, we are still left with nothing.

We don't know who killed this poor girl, they don't say a name, and there are all of these loose ends just hanging around. I do hope they revist some of these later on to see if these guys were right. How will we ever know?

The so called "profile" they leave kind of states that it could be ANYONE! So, I hope we can find out.

I feel totally nonplussed, and left out in the cold. I hope these guys don't turn into another Dayle Hinman type, who take credit for solving cases they just kind of showed up and looked at.

Boy, I can complain, can't I!!! lol

Until then,
Sarah

[mozartpc27]

Originally Posted by mercy1825

I am sorry that I must differ with some of you who like this show. I think it is the worst show on CourtTv and really seems to do a disservice to psychic investigations. I have watched both episodes that have aired so far. In the more recent one, the case of the missing district attorney from Pennsylvania, the woman psychic provided absolutely NO NEW evidence other than she thought a man was watching him from outside the courthouse. That will not be of much help at all.

I live in the general area of where this crime occurred and everything these psychics said was all available to the general public in the newspapers, TV news, etc. I know they said that these three were not given any information about the case, but are we just supposed to take their word for it? It would have taken all of 5 minutes for one of them to search on the internet and find out all the information they said that they were "seeing". Even if they were not given the victim's name before the show, I am sure they did know WHERE they were going since they had to catch a plane or some other form of transportation to get there. All they would have to do is look into famous unsolved cases in that area, (and in this particular area there are very, very few, if any at all other than this) and find out what they said beforehand. This case has been a HUGE news story since it happened 4/15/05.

I am sorry, but in either episode they provided little NEW information that would be at all RELEVANT to the police investigation.

I never even knew this show existed until last night, but I was looking for something to engage my mind last night that would distract me from last night's heartbreaking loss in the World Series for my beloved Phillies, and I came across this show on TruTV (nee CourtTV), and the episode I saw was actually profiling the Molly Bish Case.

For openers: I did get one new piece of information out of what I watched - I don't recall the UM segment mentioning there had been a first aid kit left open near to where Molly's work station was. Perhaps it did and I forgot it, or perhaps this was a piece of info withheld by the investigators to try to verify tips, but either way this was news to me.

However, the rest of the show was a near-perfect demonstration of why psychics are USELESS. My first reaction was, literally, "Why is there a show about Psychics on something calling itself TRUE tv?", but then that just fits in with the general pattern of cable networks ignoring their apparent mandates: 90% of what is on Comedy Central isn't funny, no music ever airs on MTV, etc.

But beyond that, here were a couple of psychics going through their little performances - walking around with their eyes closed, "feeling" fear or struggle or whatever, adding NOTHING of value to this investigation AT ALL. At the opening of the episode, we're told that the two "mediums" they have employed were given no information about this case prior to coming out to the site of Molly's disappearance. But, just for starters, this show was produced in 2006 - or four years AFTER the Unsolved Mysteries segment aired on this case. Is there any chance two people trying to bilk a living out of people by mimicking "paranormal abilities" to solve crimes DIDN'T watch UM when it was on? So, we're supposed to be real impressed when the one guy guesses Molly was blond with blue eyes. First of all, it's New England. Lots of fair skinned people, so this would be a reasonably good guess under any circumstances. Secondly, they don't show us the other woman's guess, and I'll bet they asked her to make one too, so our sense of the odds are being manipulated. Thirdly, he does eventually meet her parents, though it's not entirely clear when that happens - if he sees them before making his guess, well, DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Next, they take these two "psychics" to the place where Molly's bathing suit and body were discovered. To the exact places. So the psychics are flat GIVEN information. Then, the female psychic claims that the killer had scoped out the location where Molly's remains were found ahead of time, suggesting that he "practiced" by carrying something heavy up the hill to see if he could physically do it first. This is 1) a reasonable guess, 2) totally unprovable, and 3) even if it was provable, entirely irrelevant. Good job psychic! We see the other psychic, meanwhile, with Molly's parents, telling them vaguely quasi-religious reassuring things, like "love is a trong emotion," and "she's gone from here, but she can stil visit you and feel your love."

*Sigh.* What's interesting is that, before this show aired, one of my other pet theories, that pretty much ALL of the suicides profiled on UM as having been perhaps murders instead are in fact suicides, was dealt a pretty significant blow by a show I watched about some dude who murdered his wife and girlfriend - 14 years apart - by stagining suicides in both cases. The murder of his wife was more sloppily executed, but he had gotten clean away with murdering his girlfriend and staging it to look like suicide, to the point that not only did the original coroner in that case rule it a suicide, so did the independent expert hired by the family to take a second look. So it's a lot more possible to stage a suicide than I had originally thought, and I have to admit I was wrong about that.

But the psychics -yikes. I mean, I can't say I was surprised, but it was more evident than even I had anticipated that these two con artists were full of it. They were supposedly tops in their field, and they were straight up awful.

[DJ_Foxx]

Did you see the one they did about George Allen Smith? I guess these two didn't get their story straight ahead of time. They had two different versions of what happened to the poor man. And then, if that ain't the kicker, they somehow get audio of poor "George" communicating from beyond.


How rich!!!!

[Big3sCompanyFan]

Originally Posted by mercy1825

I am sorry that I must differ with some of you who like this show. I think it is the worst show on CourtTv and really seems to do a disservice to psychic investigations. I have watched both episodes that have aired so far. In the more recent one, the case of the missing district attorney from Pennsylvania, the woman psychic provided absolutely NO NEW evidence other than she thought a man was watching him from outside the courthouse. That will not be of much help at all.

I live in the general area of where this crime occurred and everything these psychics said was all available to the general public in the newspapers, TV news, etc. I know they said that these three were not given any information about the case, but are we just supposed to take their word for it? It would have taken all of 5 minutes for one of them to search on the internet and find out all the information they said that they were "seeing". Even if they were not given the victim's name before the show, I am sure they did know WHERE they were going since they had to catch a plane or some other form of transportation to get there. All they would have to do is look into famous unsolved cases in that area, (and in this particular area there are very, very few, if any at all other than this) and find out what they said beforehand. This case has been a HUGE news story since it happened 4/15/05.

I am sorry, but in either episode they provided little NEW information that would be at all RELEVANT to the police investigation.

But psychics and hauntings are all a bunch of malarkey anyway. If any of these psychics are real why don't they claim James Randi's $1 million prize by simply showing their psychic ability?

Scientific American or any legit scientific publication doesn't accept hauntings or psychics either.

Why not bring in UFOs, Shawdow People, the Illuminati, and the one world government too?

[browneyes106]

I saw this show sometime back on trutv and I agree it was awful. The JonBenet episode was really stupid.