Rap vs. Rock

[ckrtpametulia]

rock by far i think rap eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwww

[Mossopp]

Yeah, rock is a million times better. I do own a few rap/hip hop records but rock is definately better.
Ever since I heard 'Appetite for Destruction' by Guns n Roses when I was just 5 years old I've been a rock fan.
I do like the whole rock/rap fusion thing though. Kid Rock and Limp Bizkit forever!!!!
Mossopp

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[Meg07945]

rock

[Cokies]

Good ole' Rock 'n' Roll.

Of course rap is by far better than rock. Rock gives me a tremendous headache, and i can never understand what they are saying except for mabey a few artists. But rap has hidden mesages that you have to listen closely too, like in 2Pac's music.

[Cokies]

Originally posted by ILuvJo&Blair:
i can never understand what they are saying except for mabey a few artists.

Rap isn't exactly the easiest thing to listen to either. All I hear half the time is..." Blah, blah, ****, blah, gun's blazin', blah, wubba, wubba, yada, sluts, rollin in my benz, blah, ****, blah"

Sorry to be blunt.
No disrespect though...



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[ckrtpametulia]

Originally posted by ILuvJo&Blair:
Of course rap is by far better than rock. Rock gives me a tremendous headache, and i can never understand what they are saying except for mabey a few artists. But rap has hidden mesages that you have to listen closely too, like in 2Pac's music.

rock is not at all like what they say on sissy cartoons you aubviously havnt listened to any real rock and roll

[ckrtpametulia]

and plus all they do is cuss in friQQin rap exept 4 the kids and they r "using hidden words" that r cussing anyways

Originally posted by ckrtpametulia:
and plus all they do is cuss in friQQin rap exept 4 the kids and they r "using hidden words" that r cussing anyways

That's not entirely true. If you were to listen to real rap you would find that they use very little profanity. If you ever listened to any great rap star like 2Pac you would see that their music is a message. I can bet you that you have no clue as to what 2Pac even raps about. He raps about how his people get stereotyped as filthy poverty level 'Black' people and in acuality when you call an african american 'black' that is a major put down. He also raps about racism and a lot of crap we have been put through by the higher class caucasion people. That's what he truely raps about not some bitches and hoes.

Now from what you say about all the cussing, it's true but you are listning to todays rap which has changes greatly over the past 5 years when 2Pac died. I don't listen to that crap! that's not even real rap. And to let you know one thing about the kid rappers, I don't know what kid rapper you listen to because the ones like Lil' Bow Wow and Lil' Romeo don't cus. Not once have I heard any of their lyrics that have profanity in them.they rap about love and girls and stuff that boys their age think about. So, befor you put down rap, you are the one who should listen to "real" rap.

Also, don't make assumptions about me becauese you don't know where I've heard rock before and don't hate just because I don't like the same thing as you and I have different veiws than you.

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[Zankara]

I HAVE TO DEFEND MY MUSIC BUT NO OFFENSE OF WHAT IM BOUT TO SAY

ROCK DON'T MAKE NO DANG-ON SINCE. WHAT DO ROCK TALK ABOUT. BUT AHHHHHHHHHHH
TALK ABOUT BORING MUSIC "NO OFFENSE".
RAP EVEN SELLS MORE THAN THAT JUNK "NO OFFENSE"

I DON'T KNOW WHY MICHEAL JACKSON IS CONSIDERED ROCK. MICHEAL IS SOUL.

RAP has more fans more awards MORE ENTERTAINING. WE WORK FOR MUCH MORE.

RAP IS A BIG PART OF MY COMMUNITY. IF YOU ARE BLACK LIKE ME YOU USUALLY LIKE RAP MUSIC.
IT STARTED WITH RAPPER DELIGHT THEY ARE BLACK. NOW WE GOT ALL TYPES OF RACES IN RAP. THAT'S WONDERFUL SO MORE PEOPLE CAN LIKE RAP.

RAPPER LIKE EMINEM, VANILLA ICE, FAT JOE, BIG PUN MADE RAP INTERNATIONAL SO EVERY CAN LIKE RAP.

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[Cokies]

Originally posted by Zankara:


ROCK DON'T MAKE NO DANG-ON SINCE. WHAT DO ROCK TALK ABOUT. BUT AHHHHHHHHHHH
TALK ABOUT BORING MUSIC
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RAP has more fans more awards MORE ENTERTAINING. WE WORK FOR MUCH MORE.
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RAPPER LIKE EMINEM, VANILLA ICE, FAT JOE, BIG PUN MADE RAP INTERNATIONAL SO EVERY CAN LIKE RAP.

Obviously, you are referring to "rock" music such as Limp Bizkit, and Kid Rock, and the like. Rap metal is what it's called. And it shouldn't even be in the same catergory as other classic rock acts. "Boring music", what a naive statemant that is.
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More fans? Another naive statement. Yes, it can be more entertaining...but that's YOUR SOLE opinion. "We work for much more.." That's such an ignorant statemant as well.
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Vanilla Ice? Ha!!! You even classify him as a rapper? I honestly can't take you seriously when you make list of "rappers" that include Vannila Ice. And the rappers you listed aren't the rappers that are making rap popular internationally. Ever heard of OutKast?

I'm deeply offended that you said rock doesn't make sense. Obviously you aren't listening to real rock n roll. Go pick up a copy of Rolling Stone magazine, there's examples in there.

And next time you try to defend rap, list some good hip-hop acts like Black Eyed Peas, OutKast, NWA, Run Dmc, Dre, etc, etc.

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[lesliem14]

I was raised on the good 'ole Rock 'n Roll of the Beatles, Stone's, Greatful Dead, to name just a few. I've also been known to swipe my father's John Mellencamp CD (took it at Easter when I went back to school-he didn't see it for a month and a half!). See, rap gives me a headache. I've tired to listen to 2PAC and others for the last 10 years or so, and it's always the same result- about 1 minute and I'm looking for the Tylonal, while I switch the radio station. I'm not doubting that their lyrics aren't important to them and their communities, but before you say Rock means absolutely nothing you should understand a few things. Rock played a huge part in the 60's movement/Vietnam. Listen to what John Fogerty is saying in "Fortunate Son". That doesn't mean anything? The words to John Lennon's "Imagine" are pointless? John Mellencamp uses his history growing up in the farms of Indiana to bring awareness to the plight of American farmers. Americna farmers have about as much to complain about as the minority population. I can open up my newspaper tomorrow and point out at least one article where farmers are getting screwed over. Willie Nelson and Mellencamp founded farm-aid. Mellencamp does the same thing that rappers do-sing about their communities and what is important to them. And while we're on another subject- Rap owes it's beginnings to Rock, like Rock owes it's beginnings to Blues and Country.

[Cokies]

Originally posted by lesliem14:
I was raised on the good 'ole Rock 'n Roll of the Beatles, Stone's, Greatful Dead, to name just a few. I've also been known to swipe my father's John Mellencamp CD (took it at Easter when I went back to school-he didn't see it for a month and a half!). See, rap gives me a headache. I've tired to listen to 2PAC and others for the last 10 years or so, and it's always the same result- about 1 minute and I'm looking for the Tylonal, while I switch the radio station. I'm not doubting that their lyrics aren't important to them and their communities, but before you say Rock means absolutely nothing you should understand a few things. Rock played a huge part in the 60's movement/Vietnam. Listen to what John Fogerty is saying in "Fortunate Son". That doesn't mean anything? The words to John Lennon's "Imagine" are pointless? John Mellencamp uses his history growing up in the farms of Indiana to bring awareness to the plight of American farmers. Americna farmers have about as much to complain about as the minority population. I can open up my newspaper tomorrow and point out at least one article where farmers are getting screwed over. Willie Nelson and Mellencamp founded farm-aid. Mellencamp does the same thing that rappers do-sing about their communities and what is important to them. And while we're on another subject- Rap owes it's beginnings to Rock, like Rock owes it's beginnings to Blues and Country.

Perfect explanation, lesliem.



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[ckrtpametulia]

Originally posted by ILuvJo&Blair:
That's not entirely true. If you were to listen to real rap you would find that they use very little profanity. If you ever listened to any great rap star like 2Pac you would see that their music is a message. I can bet you that you have no clue as to what 2Pac even raps about. He raps about how his people get stereotyped as filthy poverty level 'Black' people and in acuality when you call an african american 'black' that is a major put down. He also raps about racism and a lot of crap we have been put through by the higher class caucasion people. That's what he truely raps about not some bitches and hoes.

Now from what you say about all the cussing, it's true but you are listning to todays rap which has changes greatly over the past 5 years when 2Pac died. I don't listen to that crap! that's not even real rap. And to let you know one thing about the kid rappers, I don't know what kid rapper you listen to because the ones like Lil' Bow Wow and Lil' Romeo don't cus. Not once have I heard any of their lyrics that have profanity in them.they rap about love and girls and stuff that boys their age think about. So, befor you put down rap, you are the one who should listen to "real" rap.

Also, don't make assumptions about me becauese you don't know where I've heard rock before and don't hate just because I don't like the same thing as you and I have different veiws than you.

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the
hidden messages i know one of them of the hidden messages is that 2pac does dope hes a homo just like nelly

[ckrtpametulia]

rap wasnt even around when rock was rock is the legend rap is the legend of dopistry