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crystaldawn · 06-02-2006, 04:46 PM

I talked to my contact at the doe network and she asked one of her contacts about Nyleen Kay Marshall's mother. Here is her reply:

"Hi again Heather,

I finally heard back from my contact, and all I was told was that Nyleen's mother is in fact deceased, and that she died in 1994. Details though couldn't be released."

So we have confirmed that she died several years ago.

I do tend to think the poster on Websleuths was telling the truth about her. I'll try again to get a hold of her and see if she can give us any further info.

DarkDante · 06-02-2006, 05:52 PM

I don't know what to say um...The Nyleen Kay Marshall case is probably the one case that has affected me most out of all of the segments and I think its because of Nancy Marshall's comments and the grief and sense of loss she expresses through those comments that make the segment so poignant.

There is very little I can say beyond that except that I think we all identify with so many of the people on the program even though we have not shared their experiences. I can only hope that Nancy's husband Kim as well as Nyleen's brother are doing well and I can't even imagine the sense of loss they have experienced over the years.

Rest In Peace Nancy.

LooksLikeCRicci · 06-02-2006, 06:57 PM

Yowza. That really sucks. I'm glad you heard something back. The sheriff at Jefferson County still hasn't sent me anything.

So sad...

crystaldawn · 06-02-2006, 08:22 PM

I contacted the Administrator at Websleuths today and asked them if they would ask Nancy Marshall's relative that posted the info to pm or email me since she never picked up the pm. I'll definitely post to this thread any info I found out if I hear from her.

Awsi Dooger · 06-02-2006, 09:04 PM

That's terrible news but expected, given the specifics of the Websleuths post.

I am surprised it was that early, '94. That means many news reports for years after that date quoted Nancy Marshall and provided links to her UM statements without mentioning her death.

And UM never updated either. That's a strange aspect, whether to update when someone involved in the segment is killed. It doesn't impact the investigation itself but you would think Lifetime might have done it anyway, especially for a mom who was a major part of the segment.

crystaldawn · 06-02-2006, 10:07 PM

Good point Awsi. You know if she was killed in Mexico I wonder if any of these media outlets even know she died. Look at all the work we've had to do just to find out. I even found a webpage concerning Nyleen from 2002 that has a picture of and quoted Nancy Marshall. I definitely think if they would have known she died several years earlier they would have mentioned it in the article as sort of a double tragedy. Here's the webpage in case anyone's interested:

http://www.channel3000.com/news/1555573/detail.html

dynoguy88 · 06-02-2006, 10:28 PM

***sigh***

I took a deep breath before clicking on this thread hoping I wouldn't read what we all feared.

I don't even know what to say. Such sad circumstances. It really makes you wonder about this crazy world we live in.

We can only hope and pray that Nyleen's brother and father have many supportive family and friends around them to give them the strength to go on with their lives.

Hearing this just makes you shake your head. My heart breaks for these people.

Thank you crystaldawn for keeping in contact with that person to find this information out. We were all hoping this rumor would be false. Why oh why did this have to happen?

spark19 · 06-02-2006, 11:20 PM

This is really, truly sad. I was hoping that what was written on websleuths was just some sort of horribly cruel joke.

Just like those letters and phone calls concerning Nyleen may have been (although most likely from her abductor, no one can really know if he actuall had/has her, or if he himself was playing a cruel joke).

That poor family.

UnsolvedMystFan · 08-25-2009, 12:27 PM

Can we really be certain that the mother, Nancy Marshall is dead? That channel 3000 article quotes the mother in a manner as if she were still alive....i.e. "Her parents still hope to find her." Still hope? Parents (with an 'S')?

"I still look for her," her mother Nancy Marshall said. "I always will every time I'm at a resort, an amusement park.

"Now, nearly 20 years since her daughter's disappearance".....

This all seem a strange way to be quoting someone if they died long ago in '94 as claimed here and on websleuths. I find that members of both boards do not seem to discount the possibility of 'hoax' posters, specifically the alleged 'cousin' that claimed this in Websleuths. If you notice, when she was here on SO she alleged that she didn't know which cousin posted that Nancy was dead. What? Can she not pick up a phone and inquire? Give me a break.

Finally, what about these letters the police have that they seemed to put so much stock into. They say that the letters included information that was not available to the public, but I sure would like to know what this supposedly is before relegating myself to believe that the police just didn't drop the ball in this case...in fact they do all the time in these sorts of cases. Look at how JonBenet Ramsey's death was bungled....and massively at that. It is possible someone could've have written to the police and simply had a lucky guess. To be frank, I'm still not convinced that the idea that she simply walked off and later died of exposure wouldn't be possible. It happened to that little boy that was featured alongside Tara Callico (sic?) in that one UM episode.

Also, with so much being made of the fact that the letter writer supposedly had 'privileged information, and also considering so much was made of the fact that the pay-phones he was calling from were uput under police surveillance until the call suddenly 'stopped', has the possibility been discounted that the caller might have had an inside connection? Perhaps it is was someone on the police department staff who simply got a kick out of jerking authorities around with false information....it wouldn't be the first time. Also suspicious is the fact that the caller stopped right when the pay-phones were put under surveillance. I really don't feel like the police did all they could here....and what about applying modern DNA technique to the envelopes / letters?

Necco · 08-27-2009, 03:36 PM

Social Security Death Index lists no Nancy Marshall dying in 1994.

There is a Nancy Marshall, about 40 years old, dying in 1995, though. Maybe the year is off?

crystaldawn · 08-27-2009, 04:02 PM

I really have no doubt that Nancy Marshall was murdered in Mexico. I can't imagine that someone would make up that they were a relative and then go on to list a crime so brutal and so specific in its details that took place in another country. I'm guessing a lot of the news outlets don't know about her death or either its been so many years since Nyleen disappeared her mother's death many years ago isn't newsworthy to them. The source that confirmed her death to me was someone who works at Doe Network. They spoke with their contact and all they would say was that she died and the year (yes its possible Necco its a year off). The information that she died in my opinion is accurate.

LooksLikeCRicci · 08-27-2009, 08:51 PM

Yeah, I agrew with Crystaldawn. I'm pretty sure that Nancy Marshall has been deceased for quite some time now. Part of the reason we were never updated probably DOES have to do with the fact that it happened in another country. I'm merely speculating here, but perhaps another reason we didn't hear about it is because it's been so long since she's been abducted that folks presume Nyleen is deceased as well?

I can't imagine that CD's source would make the story up. IF they did, however, words cannot describe how sick that individual would be. I'm not sure if the recent poster knows what's been alleged to have happened to Nancy, but it's GRUESOME and AWFUL and not how I would want anyone to die.

Necco · 08-27-2009, 09:41 PM

The quote and picture from Nancy in that Channel 3000 article are directly from the Unsolved Segment. The picture is a screen cap. Looks like the author of the article was under the gun and just pulled up archival footage. I think the death listed in 1995 is the Nancy in question.

mattc · 08-29-2009, 04:31 PM

Thanks Crystaldawn, for the update! I too read that she had died on the websleuth site, and it really made me sick.

I used to feel that Nyleen had just wandered off and her remains are in the woods in Montana, but after reading your article, in which the police said that the letter writer knew things that could not be known by the public, I sense that she was kidnapped. It's just such a random place to be kidnapped... on a mountain in a picnic area??? However, then I think about the Georgia girl who was abducted and killed (can't think of the name off hand) on a hiking trial, and I guess it's possible anywhere.

The whole thing is really sad, and I think Nancy did a great service for her daughter during that UM segment, because her haunting words "I might look happy, but I'm really looking for my child," really struck a note with a lot of us.

I really hope that she is found!!!!

mattc · 08-29-2009, 04:38 PM

One other thing... I just re-watched the clip, and the thing that has always bothered me is that the guy who came out of the trees was described by two "little girls." I just wonder how reliable that is. I guess I have a 50/50 feeling on this: Either she was abducted by the letter writer, or her skeletal remains are in the woods. A search doesn't always turn up a body, and the letter writer claimed that he was living off of substantial investments. So, a wealthy world travaller happened to be looking to kidnap a child in the mountains of Montana??? I don't know.

06-02-2006, 04:46 PM	#1
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	Some info on Nancy Marshall I talked to my contact at the doe network and she asked one of her contacts about Nyleen Kay Marshall's mother. Here is her reply: "Hi again Heather, I finally heard back from my contact, and all I was told was that Nyleen's mother is in fact deceased, and that she died in 1994. Details though couldn't be released." So we have confirmed that she died several years ago. I do tend to think the poster on Websleuths was telling the truth about her. I'll try again to get a hold of her and see if she can give us any further info.

06-02-2006, 10:28 PM	#7
dynoguy88 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 01, 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 3,673	reply *sigh* I took a deep breath before clicking on this thread hoping I wouldn't read what we all feared. I don't even know what to say. Such sad circumstances. It really makes you wonder about this crazy world we live in. We can only hope and pray that Nyleen's brother and father have many supportive family and friends around them to give them the strength to go on with their lives. Hearing this just makes you shake your head. My heart breaks for these people. Thank you crystaldawn for keeping in contact with that person to find this information out. We were all hoping this rumor would be false. Why oh why did this have to happen?

08-25-2009, 12:27 PM	#9
UnsolvedMystFan Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 30, 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 37	Can we really be certain that the mother, Nancy Marshall is dead? That channel 3000 article quotes the mother in a manner as if she were still alive....i.e. "Her parents still hope to find her." Still hope? Parents (with an 'S')? "I still look for her," her mother Nancy Marshall said. "I always will every time I'm at a resort, an amusement park. "Now, nearly 20 years since her daughter's disappearance"..... This all seem a strange way to be quoting someone if they died long ago in '94 as claimed here and on websleuths. I find that members of both boards do not seem to discount the possibility of 'hoax' posters, specifically the alleged 'cousin' that claimed this in Websleuths. If you notice, when she was here on SO she alleged that she didn't know which cousin posted that Nancy was dead. What? Can she not pick up a phone and inquire? Give me a break. Finally, what about these letters the police have that they seemed to put so much stock into. They say that the letters included information that was not available to the public, but I sure would like to know what this supposedly is before relegating myself to believe that the police just didn't drop the ball in this case...in fact they do all the time in these sorts of cases. Look at how JonBenet Ramsey's death was bungled....and massively at that. It is possible someone could've have written to the police and simply had a lucky guess. To be frank, I'm still not convinced that the idea that she simply walked off and later died of exposure wouldn't be possible. It happened to that little boy that was featured alongside Tara Callico (sic?) in that one UM episode. Also, with so much being made of the fact that the letter writer supposedly had 'privileged information, and also considering so much was made of the fact that the pay-phones he was calling from were uput under police surveillance until the call suddenly 'stopped', has the possibility been discounted that the caller might have had an inside connection? Perhaps it is was someone on the police department staff who simply got a kick out of jerking authorities around with false information....it wouldn't be the first time. Also suspicious is the fact that the caller stopped right when the pay-phones were put under surveillance. I really don't feel like the police did all they could here....and what about applying modern DNA technique to the envelopes / letters?
	Last edited by UnsolvedMystFan; 08-25-2009 at 12:42 PM.

06-02-2006, 05:52 PM	#2
DarkDante Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 27, 2002 Posts: 1,569	I don't know what to say um...The Nyleen Kay Marshall case is probably the one case that has affected me most out of all of the segments and I think its because of Nancy Marshall's comments and the grief and sense of loss she expresses through those comments that make the segment so poignant. There is very little I can say beyond that except that I think we all identify with so many of the people on the program even though we have not shared their experiences. I can only hope that Nancy's husband Kim as well as Nyleen's brother are doing well and I can't even imagine the sense of loss they have experienced over the years. Rest In Peace Nancy.

06-02-2006, 06:57 PM	#3
LooksLikeCRicci Likes to live in a clean house Moderator Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 4,050	Yowza. That really sucks. I'm glad you heard something back. The sheriff at Jefferson County still hasn't sent me anything. So sad...

06-02-2006, 08:22 PM	#4
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	I contacted the Administrator at Websleuths today and asked them if they would ask Nancy Marshall's relative that posted the info to pm or email me since she never picked up the pm. I'll definitely post to this thread any info I found out if I hear from her.

06-02-2006, 09:04 PM	#5
Awsi Dooger Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 18, 2003 Location: Miami Posts: 1,537	That's terrible news but expected, given the specifics of the Websleuths post. I am surprised it was that early, '94. That means many news reports for years after that date quoted Nancy Marshall and provided links to her UM statements without mentioning her death. And UM never updated either. That's a strange aspect, whether to update when someone involved in the segment is killed. It doesn't impact the investigation itself but you would think Lifetime might have done it anyway, especially for a mom who was a major part of the segment.

06-02-2006, 10:07 PM	#6
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	Good point Awsi. You know if she was killed in Mexico I wonder if any of these media outlets even know she died. Look at all the work we've had to do just to find out. I even found a webpage concerning Nyleen from 2002 that has a picture of and quoted Nancy Marshall. I definitely think if they would have known she died several years earlier they would have mentioned it in the article as sort of a double tragedy. Here's the webpage in case anyone's interested: http://www.channel3000.com/news/1555573/detail.html

06-02-2006, 11:20 PM	#8
spark19 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 08, 2006 Location: USA Posts: 122	This is really, truly sad. I was hoping that what was written on websleuths was just some sort of horribly cruel joke. Just like those letters and phone calls concerning Nyleen may have been (although most likely from her abductor, no one can really know if he actuall had/has her, or if he himself was playing a cruel joke). That poor family.

08-27-2009, 03:36 PM	#10
Necco Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 06, 2006 Posts: 1,149	Social Security Death Index lists no Nancy Marshall dying in 1994. There is a Nancy Marshall, about 40 years old, dying in 1995, though. Maybe the year is off?

08-27-2009, 04:02 PM	#11
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	I really have no doubt that Nancy Marshall was murdered in Mexico. I can't imagine that someone would make up that they were a relative and then go on to list a crime so brutal and so specific in its details that took place in another country. I'm guessing a lot of the news outlets don't know about her death or either its been so many years since Nyleen disappeared her mother's death many years ago isn't newsworthy to them. The source that confirmed her death to me was someone who works at Doe Network. They spoke with their contact and all they would say was that she died and the year (yes its possible Necco its a year off). The information that she died in my opinion is accurate.

08-27-2009, 08:51 PM	#12
LooksLikeCRicci Likes to live in a clean house Moderator Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 4,050	Yeah, I agrew with Crystaldawn. I'm pretty sure that Nancy Marshall has been deceased for quite some time now. Part of the reason we were never updated probably DOES have to do with the fact that it happened in another country. I'm merely speculating here, but perhaps another reason we didn't hear about it is because it's been so long since she's been abducted that folks presume Nyleen is deceased as well? I can't imagine that CD's source would make the story up. IF they did, however, words cannot describe how sick that individual would be. I'm not sure if the recent poster knows what's been alleged to have happened to Nancy, but it's GRUESOME and AWFUL and not how I would want anyone to die.

08-27-2009, 09:41 PM	#13
Necco Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 06, 2006 Posts: 1,149	The quote and picture from Nancy in that Channel 3000 article are directly from the Unsolved Segment. The picture is a screen cap. Looks like the author of the article was under the gun and just pulled up archival footage. I think the death listed in 1995 is the Nancy in question.

08-29-2009, 04:31 PM	#14
mattc Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 16, 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 273	Thanks Crystaldawn, for the update! I too read that she had died on the websleuth site, and it really made me sick. I used to feel that Nyleen had just wandered off and her remains are in the woods in Montana, but after reading your article, in which the police said that the letter writer knew things that could not be known by the public, I sense that she was kidnapped. It's just such a random place to be kidnapped... on a mountain in a picnic area??? However, then I think about the Georgia girl who was abducted and killed (can't think of the name off hand) on a hiking trial, and I guess it's possible anywhere. The whole thing is really sad, and I think Nancy did a great service for her daughter during that UM segment, because her haunting words "I might look happy, but I'm really looking for my child," really struck a note with a lot of us. I really hope that she is found!!!!

08-29-2009, 04:38 PM	#15
mattc Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 16, 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 273	One other thing... I just re-watched the clip, and the thing that has always bothered me is that the guy who came out of the trees was described by two "little girls." I just wonder how reliable that is. I guess I have a 50/50 feeling on this: Either she was abducted by the letter writer, or her skeletal remains are in the woods. A search doesn't always turn up a body, and the letter writer claimed that he was living off of substantial investments. So, a wealthy world travaller happened to be looking to kidnap a child in the mountains of Montana??? I don't know.