Killing in a motor home...

[TosaTillie]

The scariest episode I ever saw on UM was on again this afternoon May 25th. It is the one where people were shot when they were sleeping in their motorhome at a rest stop. It was also one of the most heartbreaking.

I was unable to see the end of the show so I don't know if there were any updates.

Has anyone heard of some updates on that? I personally don't think they will ever find the guy but if anyone deserves to be caught and executed, it's that murderer!!!!

[Chris Billings]

I saw this episode today and there was no update, unfortunately.

If someone knows the last name of the couple, maybe they can do a web search and provide us with the latest info.

The Cber

[crystaldawn]

There is a suspect in the case although I don't know if he's ever been prosecuted for that crime. Here is part of an article concerning it:

HEADLINE: EX-COP PROBED IN TOURIST KILLINGS 2 SHOT DEAD AT BLIND RIVER ROADSIDE PARK IN '91

A former Toronto cop charged with two 29-year-old sex slayings is under investigation in an unsolved double murder eight years ago.

Ronald Glenn West, 52,was charged two days ago with first-degree murder in the 1970 sex slayings of nurses Doreen Moorby, 34, and Helen Ferguson, 38, north of Toronto.

The Toronto Sun has learned he is a suspect in a 1991 picnic-area robbery in which two people were slain and another left for dead.

Gord McAllister, 62, and his wife Jackie, 59, were asleep in their motorhome at a scenic Blind River rest stop in Northern Ontario at 1 a.m. on June 28, 1991 when they opened their door to a man allegedly claiming to be a police officer.

Jackie McAllister was killed instantly when the man opened fire with a rifle. Her husband was shot in the back as he tried to escape, but he survived.

Brian Major, 29, of Elliot Lake, was shot dead in his car when he unwittingly stumbled upon the murder scene.

The slayings occurred only a few kilometres from Blind River, where West lived with a second wife and two teen boys from a first marriage that was never dissolved.

West was arrested in 1995 for a robbery spree in the Sault Ste. Marie area and has served four years of an eight-year prison term. He came undone when he tried to pawn stolen rings and loose diamonds using his driver's licence and his home address.

OPP detectives searched West's van and his home for links with the rest- area murders, a relative said, but found nothing.

BLIND RIVER OFFICER

Investigators probing the Moorby and Ferguson homicides refused to say whether there are links with the Blind River slayings.

But The Sun has learned a Blind River OPP officer involved in the 1991 probe is working alongside Orillia-based major-crime-unit detectives, who say they unravelled the nurse slayings using DNA analysis of 29-year-old evidence.

West was working at Toronto Police 53 Division as a traffic cop during the period the women were killed and was off duty on the dates of the murders. He quit the force in 1972 after four years' service.

Police are trying to determine if there are similarities in the way in which the Toronto murders, the Sault Ste. Marie robberies and the Blind River slayings were carried out.

Doreen Moorby was at her rural Gormley home with her 21-month-old son on May 6, 1970, when she was sexually assaulted and shot five times in the head and twice in the back with a .22-calibre gun. Her son was unharmed.

Helen Ferguson was shot once in the head and twice in the back at her Palgrave home 13 days later.

Her nine-year-old son was at home and, after hearing a knock at the door and a man's voice, then heard gunshots. He saw a man wipe the doorknob of fingerprints and then drive off.

In 1991, the McAllisters were robbed by a man armed with a .22-calibre Lakefield Mossberg rifle and a 20-gauge shotgun, police say.

Gord McAllister recalled last night from Lindsay that the man who killed his wife and Major came to the motorhome door at 1 a.m..

He told them he was a police officer and they could not stay in the rest area overnight and would have to move, McAllister said.

'GOING TO KILL BOTH OF YOU'

His wife opened the door and the man entered with a rifle in each arm, saying "I'm going to rob you, and then I'm going to kill both of you."

McAllister said he didn't believe the man would kill them, but after the gunman took their valuables he began shooting. McAllister's wife was shot in the trailer. McAllister was shot and left for dead outside the trailer, but he saw the gunman fire shots into the windshield of a car that just happened by.

Brian Major was sadly "in the wrong place at the wrong time," said McAllister, who recalled the killer having stringy blond hair.

In Sault Ste. Marie court on Oct. 4, 1995, West pleaded guilty to what Ontario court Judge Lawrence Whalen called five "shocking" robberies, each one "coldly" and deliberately planned.

In each case, West visited a home or business, using a ruse that he wanted to buy something or needed some work done. In each robbery, his victim was alone and either old or female.

[Kane]

Originally Posted by TosaTillie

I personally don't think they will ever find the guy but if anyone deserves to be caught and executed, it's that murderer!!!!

Well, the problem is that Canada doesn't have the death penalty. So the harshest punishment permitted under Canadian law would be life in prison without the possibility of parole.

[TosaTillie]

crystaldawn - YOU ARE AWESOME!!! Thanks for the info. Robert Glenn West sounds like he would be vicious enough to do that crime....I hope he is put away forever.......

[crystaldawn]

Originally Posted by TosaTillie

crystaldawn - YOU ARE AWESOME!!! Thanks for the info. Robert Glenn West sounds like he would be vicious enough to do that crime....I hope he is put away forever.......

Thanks...my pleasure! Yes I actually only copied and pasted part of that article about West since it was so horrible. I just emailed someone at the Toronto Sun (where the article came from) to see if there were any new developments and if I hear back I'll post what they tell me.

[Beetlejuice69]

Dammit! I missed it again, and I've never seen it before! This is really starting to tick me off.

[Beetlejuice69]

I must see this episode or I'll go nuts myself.

[I Love Carol Burnett!]

Originally Posted by crystaldawn

There is a suspect in the case although I don't know if he's ever been prosecuted for that crime. Here is part of an article concerning it:

HEADLINE: EX-COP PROBED IN TOURIST KILLINGS 2 SHOT DEAD AT BLIND RIVER ROADSIDE PARK IN '91

A former Toronto cop charged with two 29-year-old sex slayings is under investigation in an unsolved double murder eight years ago.

Ronald Glenn West, 52,was charged two days ago with first-degree murder in the 1970 sex slayings of nurses Doreen Moorby, 34, and Helen Ferguson, 38, north of Toronto.

The Toronto Sun has learned he is a suspect in a 1991 picnic-area robbery in which two people were slain and another left for dead.

Gord McAllister, 62, and his wife Jackie, 59, were asleep in their motorhome at a scenic Blind River rest stop in Northern Ontario at 1 a.m. on June 28, 1991 when they opened their door to a man allegedly claiming to be a police officer.

Jackie McAllister was killed instantly when the man opened fire with a rifle. Her husband was shot in the back as he tried to escape, but he survived.

Brian Major, 29, of Elliot Lake, was shot dead in his car when he unwittingly stumbled upon the murder scene.

The slayings occurred only a few kilometres from Blind River, where West lived with a second wife and two teen boys from a first marriage that was never dissolved.

West was arrested in 1995 for a robbery spree in the Sault Ste. Marie area and has served four years of an eight-year prison term. He came undone when he tried to pawn stolen rings and loose diamonds using his driver's licence and his home address.

OPP detectives searched West's van and his home for links with the rest- area murders, a relative said, but found nothing.

BLIND RIVER OFFICER

Investigators probing the Moorby and Ferguson homicides refused to say whether there are links with the Blind River slayings.

But The Sun has learned a Blind River OPP officer involved in the 1991 probe is working alongside Orillia-based major-crime-unit detectives, who say they unravelled the nurse slayings using DNA analysis of 29-year-old evidence.

West was working at Toronto Police 53 Division as a traffic cop during the period the women were killed and was off duty on the dates of the murders. He quit the force in 1972 after four years' service.

Police are trying to determine if there are similarities in the way in which the Toronto murders, the Sault Ste. Marie robberies and the Blind River slayings were carried out.

Doreen Moorby was at her rural Gormley home with her 21-month-old son on May 6, 1970, when she was sexually assaulted and shot five times in the head and twice in the back with a .22-calibre gun. Her son was unharmed.

Helen Ferguson was shot once in the head and twice in the back at her Palgrave home 13 days later.

Her nine-year-old son was at home and, after hearing a knock at the door and a man's voice, then heard gunshots. He saw a man wipe the doorknob of fingerprints and then drive off.

In 1991, the McAllisters were robbed by a man armed with a .22-calibre Lakefield Mossberg rifle and a 20-gauge shotgun, police say.

Gord McAllister recalled last night from Lindsay that the man who killed his wife and Major came to the motorhome door at 1 a.m..

He told them he was a police officer and they could not stay in the rest area overnight and would have to move, McAllister said.

'GOING TO KILL BOTH OF YOU'

His wife opened the door and the man entered with a rifle in each arm, saying "I'm going to rob you, and then I'm going to kill both of you."

McAllister said he didn't believe the man would kill them, but after the gunman took their valuables he began shooting. McAllister's wife was shot in the trailer. McAllister was shot and left for dead outside the trailer, but he saw the gunman fire shots into the windshield of a car that just happened by.

Brian Major was sadly "in the wrong place at the wrong time," said McAllister, who recalled the killer having stringy blond hair.

In Sault Ste. Marie court on Oct. 4, 1995, West pleaded guilty to what Ontario court Judge Lawrence Whalen called five "shocking" robberies, each one "coldly" and deliberately planned.

In each case, West visited a home or business, using a ruse that he wanted to buy something or needed some work done. In each robbery, his victim was alone and either old or female.

Thank you for that!!! I do watched that episode today and was anxious to see if there was any updates!! THANK YOU!!!

[kadrmas15]

I wouldnt be surprised if West committed those murders at the rest stop as well. The problem is I cant find a picture of the man. I went to the offical website at the prison he is now at the Kingston Penitentary in Ontario, Canada. However I was unable to find a picture on him or any real information. Is Gord McAllister still alive? I have heard conflicting information on whether he is still alive or has since passed away. If he is still alive he would be in his mid to late 70's now. I just saw that segment for the first time a week or so ago and it was so scary. The composite sketch scared the crap out of me.

[dynoguy88]

Augh!! Not again!

Crystaldawn, why did you erase my post? I didn't write down the link here. I simply told everyone where on the internet they could watch the blind river rest stop murders segment.

What did I do wrong?

[crystaldawn]

Originally Posted by dynoguy88

Augh!! Not again!

Crystaldawn, why did you erase my post? I didn't write down the link here. I simply told everyone where on the internet they could watch the blind river rest stop murders segment.

What did I do wrong?

Yes once again I had to delete a post of yours concerning youtube. You didn't provide a direct link but telling someone the exact name of the website and what to click on and what to type in is the same thing in my opinion. If you want to tell someone on the board about that website the best thing to do would be to send it in a pm.

[James T]

What I find strange is that a man armed with two guns who is intending to kill people and knows they are alonein the park would knock on a door- did that give him some sort of pleasure? he could have quite easily just blown the door off

[Kane]

Originally Posted by James T

What I find strange is that a man armed with two guns who is intending to kill people and knows they are alonein the park would knock on a door- did that give him some sort of pleasure?

That's hardly unusual. Often times, a criminal will do such as thing as a means to fool potential victims. And deception is a common trait in criminals anyway.

[crystaldawn]

Originally Posted by James T

What I find strange is that a man armed with two guns who is intending to kill people and knows they are alonein the park would knock on a door- did that give him some sort of pleasure? he could have quite easily just blown the door off

Yes I do know that West was a former policeman and was even working as a cop when he committed two rapes and murders. I think he got some sort of enjoyment posing as a cop during his crimes since he really used to be one. No doubt it gave him a feeling of power.