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TVFactFan · 05-05-2006, 12:06 PM

I came across these criticisms from the site viewsandissues.blogspot which are from Black Conservatives.

THEME SONG CRITICISMS:"It was an embarassment to black people. The saying Movin on Up was the typical mindset of blacks as if they are intruding themselves into a White's man neighborhood. The song is pretty much about a Black man being rewarded with Acceptance by the Credible People.

GEORGE JEFFERSON CRITICISMS: He wasn't believable as a racist, he appeared to be very happy to be in the white circle in which he found himself. With Archie Bunker you felt that he was a result of Old prejudices that was passed on to him. George was very clownish.

CRITICISMS ABOUT THE SHOW: The storylines of this show was very childish and the scripts were poorly written. Jeffersons is more embarssing than AMOS and ANDY.

Damm I hate to see what they said about GOOD TIMES-lol

gilligan fanatic · 05-05-2006, 12:40 PM

it is kind of making Archie being a racist exceptable.

retrochick9 · 05-05-2006, 02:11 PM

I don't see how the theme song is embarassing to black people??? I just thought about the words, and it could apply to anyone moving up in the world, IMO. No matter what your ethnic background, I think anyone that improves themselves is moving up

And as far as George, he was just like Archie, a victim of old prejudices. But, for both of them, when they actually met people of other races and got to know them, they realized deep down how silly it is to be prejudice and actually ended up talking to them and befriending them somewhat, even though they were going against what they learned growing up. They still made racial slurs, but I think they were really more accepting than they put across, which is a good thing.
I think it's ridiculous to say that George "felt comfortable in the white circle in which he found himself". It wasn't that he was comfortable with "whites", he was comfortable with "other successful people" because he was part of that life now. So he happened to be one of the first successful black people in the neighborhood, there would be more to follow. It's like they are saying success = being white, which is ridiculous.

TVFactFan · 05-05-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by retrochick9

I don't see how the theme song is embarassing to black people??? I just thought about the words, and it could apply to anyone moving up in the world, IMO. No matter what your ethnic background, I think anyone that improves themselves is moving up

And as far as George, he was just like Archie, a victim of old prejudices. But, for both of them, when they actually met people of other races and got to know them, they realized deep down how silly it is to be prejudice and actually ended up talking to them and befriending them somewhat, even though they were going against what they learned growing up. They still made racial slurs, but I think they were really more accepting than they put across, which is a good thing.
I think it's ridiculous to say that George "felt comfortable in the white circle in which he found himself". It wasn't that he was comfortable with "whites", he was comfortable with "other successful people" because he was part of that life now. So he happened to be one of the first successful black people in the neighborhood, there would be more to follow. It's like they are saying success = being white, which is ridiculous.

It's amazing that a show you been watching for years is criticized so much-lol George wasn't as nearly CLOWNISH as J.J Evans

Ireneparalegal · 05-05-2006, 03:46 PM

I never considered George a racist. He was comfortable around white people, even more if there was $$$. Where ever there was $$$ or opportunity there he was.
Remember that KKK episode when he gave mouth-to-mouth to that white supremicist man? George was furious when he found out the real reason for the group being started.
When George was in Hawaii, he wanted to establish work and make $$$ there, when he found out that the whites (i can't remember the Hawaiian name for honkies that they used, whaheelies?) were going to get rid of the native people from their land, George was pissed.
If anything, he was shown a lot different than Archie.

When was this article written Solomon? Right when the show started??

TVFactFan · 05-05-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

I never considered George a racist. He was comfortable around white people, even more if there was $$$. Where ever there was $$$ or opportunity there he was.
Remember that KKK episode when he gave mouth-to-mouth to that white supremicist man? George was furious when he found out the real reason for the group being started.
When George was in Hawaii, he wanted to establish work and make $$$ there, when he found out that the whites (i can't remember the Hawaiian name for honkies that they used, whaheelies?) were going to get rid of the native people from their land, George was pissed.
If anything, he was shown a lot different than Archie.

When was this article written Solomon? Right when the show started??

It came from a discussison about portrayals of Blacks on TV on the web. If the Black Conservative Groups rip this show apart, I know they had TONS of things to say about Good Times

Ireneparalegal · 05-05-2006, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TVResearcher

It came from a discussison about portrayals of Blacks on TV on the web. If the Black Conservative Groups rip this show apart, I know they had TONS of things to say about Good Times

Oh I see. I have scanned some blogs like that when researching stuff on Good Times and so forth. I wonder if it's the same group. I wonder if that is the same group that ripped apart the Cosby show. there was a black group saying how ludicrous Bill made two professionals in the family; having two-light skinned daughters (Something in reference to Bill tailoring to the "white" audience).

retrochick9 · 05-05-2006, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TVResearcher

It came from a discussison about portrayals of Blacks on TV on the web. If the Black Conservative Groups rip this show apart, I know they had TONS of things to say about Good Times

It seems like they complained about everything, lol. I wonder what they WOULD have liked on TV, ya know?

Brian Damage · 05-06-2006, 12:11 PM

Talk about nitpicking.

Then again, isn't that what we do?

TVFactFan · 05-06-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

Talk about nitpicking.

Then again, isn't that what we do?

We sure do-lol The Real Nitpicking of the Jeffersons for us fans begins in SEPTEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!

Brian Damage · 05-06-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TVResearcher

We sure do-lol The Real Nitpicking of the Jeffersons for us fans begins in SEPTEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't wait!

05-05-2006, 12:06 PM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,062	Some more Criticisms I stublmed across about my Favorite Show-lol I came across these criticisms from the site viewsandissues.blogspot which are from Black Conservatives. THEME SONG CRITICISMS:"It was an embarassment to black people. The saying Movin on Up was the typical mindset of blacks as if they are intruding themselves into a White's man neighborhood. The song is pretty much about a Black man being rewarded with Acceptance by the Credible People. GEORGE JEFFERSON CRITICISMS: He wasn't believable as a racist, he appeared to be very happy to be in the white circle in which he found himself. With Archie Bunker you felt that he was a result of Old prejudices that was passed on to him. George was very clownish. CRITICISMS ABOUT THE SHOW: The storylines of this show was very childish and the scripts were poorly written. Jeffersons is more embarssing than AMOS and ANDY. Damm I hate to see what they said about GOOD TIMES-lol

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05-05-2006, 02:11 PM	#3
retrochick9 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 07, 2006 Location: On the couch, in my jammies, watching TV! Posts: 620	I don't see how the theme song is embarassing to black people??? I just thought about the words, and it could apply to anyone moving up in the world, IMO. No matter what your ethnic background, I think anyone that improves themselves is moving up And as far as George, he was just like Archie, a victim of old prejudices. But, for both of them, when they actually met people of other races and got to know them, they realized deep down how silly it is to be prejudice and actually ended up talking to them and befriending them somewhat, even though they were going against what they learned growing up. They still made racial slurs, but I think they were really more accepting than they put across, which is a good thing. I think it's ridiculous to say that George "felt comfortable in the white circle in which he found himself". It wasn't that he was comfortable with "whites", he was comfortable with "other successful people" because he was part of that life now. So he happened to be one of the first successful black people in the neighborhood, there would be more to follow. It's like they are saying success = being white, which is ridiculous.