My Pre-Upfront Network Predictions - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Mr. Monitor · 05-03-2006, 07:43 PM

Here's my current analysis of the status of all the shows on the 5 networks prior to the upfronts, which are two weeks away. It's kinda like how The Futon Critic does it.

NBC

Likely to Return: Crossing Jordan, Dateline NBC, Deal or No Deal, ER, Las Vegas, Law & Order, Law & Order:Criminal Intent, Law & Order:SVU, Medium, My Name is Earl,The Office

On the Bubble:The Apprentice

, The E-Ring, Scrubs, Surface, Teachers

Unlikely to Return:Conviction, Fear Factor, Heist, Joey,Three Wishes

Already Gone: The Apprentice: Martha Stewart, The Book of Daniel, Four Kings, Inconceivable, The West Wing, Will & Grace

ABC

Likely to Return: 20/20, According to Jim, America's Funniest Home Videos,Boston Legal, Dancing With The Stars, Desperate Housewives, Extreme Makeover: Home Edition, The George Lopez Show, Grey's Anatomy, Lost, Supernanny,Wife Swap

On the Bubble: American Inventor, The Bachelor, Freddie, Hope & Faith, Invasion, Less Then Perfect, Primetime Live, Rodney

Unlikely to Return: Commander in Chief, Crumbs, The Evidence, In Justice, What About Brian?

Already Gone: Alias, Emily's Reasons Why Not, Hot Properties, Jake in Progress, Miracle Workers, Night Stalker,Sons & Daughters

CBS

Likely to Return: 48 Hours Mystery, 60 Minutes, The Amazing Race, Cold Case, Criminal Minds, CSI, CSI: Miami, CSI: NY, Ghost Whisperer, How I Met Your Mother, NCIS, Num3ers,Survivor, Two and a Half Men, The Unit, Without a Trace

On the Bubble: Close to Home, Courting Alex, The King of Queens, The New Adventures of Old Christine, Out of Practice

Unlikely to Return: Still Standing

Already Gone: Love Monkey, Threshold, Yes Dear

FOX

Likely to Return: 24, American Dad, American Idol, America's Most Wanted, Bones, Cops, House, Family Guy, King of the Hill, Prison Break, The Simpsons, Trading Spouses, Unan1mous

On the Bubble: The Bernie Mac Show

, Free Ride, The Loop, Nanny 911, The O.C., The War at Home

Unlikely to Return: Stacked

Already Gone: Arrested Development, Head Cases, Killer Instinct, Kitchen Confidential, Malcolm in the Middle, Reunion, That 70's Show

The CW

Likely to Return: America's Next Top Model, Beauty and the Geek, Everybody Hates Chris, Gilmore Girls, Girlfriends, Reba, Smallville, Supernatural,Veronica Mars, WWE Smackdown

On the Bubble: Everwood, One Tree Hill

Unlikely to Return: All of Us, The Bedford Diaries, Blue Collar TV, Cuts, Eve, Half & Half, Living With Fran, Love Inc., One on One, Modern Man, Pepper Dennis, Related, Survival of the Richest, Twins

Already Gone: 7th Heaven, Charmed, Get This Party Started, Just Legal, Sex Love & Secrets, South Beach, What I Like About You

Whattaya Think?

Pavan · 05-03-2006, 11:26 PM

Switch The Evidence and Invasion. Invasion has a shot. Evidence does not.

Brent88 · 05-04-2006, 12:30 AM

I really think ABC will renew one of the three dramas that premiered this season. None deserve it, but I think they will just so it won't be so embarrassing. Frontrunners seem to be either Invasion or Brian. If Invasion comes back, it won't be in the post-Lost slot though. I want to see CiC return the most but it looks doubtful. I like all three which is a shame.

I also see ABC basically cancelling every sitcom, except 1 or MAYBE 2, if they feel generous. Hope and Faith seems to be the frontrunner with Jim 2nd. I've also heard some recent rumblings about Lopez and Freddie, but I think those two are very doubtful. It just depends on how their sitcom pilots test.

I wish they would release their early renewals... Boston Legal and Supernanny have been reported on the internet, but ABC has not confirmed either one(not that I doubt it).

At CBS, their Monday lineup is weakening. Only Two and a Half Men and Christine are doing well, King of Queens is probably dead. The stars want more money and it lost not only to Deal or No Deal Monday, but also Wife Swap AND Prison Break! Absolutely pathetic. They don't deserve another penny in their salary. This whole night is in real trouble if ABC does indeed move Grey's(which I'm confident they will).

The Amazing Race will likely NOT be on the Fall schedule. CBS only ordered one season and it's doing very bad on Wednesdays at 8.

Brent88 · 05-04-2006, 12:37 AM

Here's my ABC idea:

Sundays-AFV/EM: HE/DH/Brothers and Sisters or another new drama
Mondays-Wife Swap/Grey's/Brian or another new drama
Tuesdays-New Comedies(or one new and Jim)/Hope and Faith/New Comedy/Boston Legal
Wednesdays-DWTS/Lost/Nine Lives or another new drama
Thursdays-The Bachelor or Reality/DWTS Results/Secrets of a Small Town or another new drama
Fridays-Invasion?/Supernanny/20/20

Some risky moves, but the schedule they have now isn't working for the most part.

Brent88 · 05-04-2006, 12:43 AM

CBS

Sundays

60 Minutes/Cold Case/New Drama/Crime Repeat

*The movie will not be able to compete against ABC AND Football on NBC*

If the new drama at 9 is successful, premiere a new one at 10 after the Super Bowl and then launch it there. This could be a HUGE opening if ABC moves Grey's.

Mondays-Old Christine/New Comedy/2.5 Men/New Comedy/CSI: Miami
Tuesdays-NCIS/The Unit/Company Town or another new drama
Wednesdays-Jericho or another new drama/Criminal Minds/CSI: NY
Thursdays-Survivor/CSI/Without a Trace
Fridays-Ghost Whisperer/Close to Home/Numb3rs

CBS is probably the easiest of the 5 to figure out. Only a few problem areas.

(I don't know where HIMYM should go, the numbers are bad on Mondays at 8:30).

Brent88 · 05-04-2006, 12:49 AM

NBC

Sundays-Football
Mondays-DOND/L&O: CI/Medium
Tuesdays-The Biggest Loser/Black Donnellys/L&O: SVU
Wednesdays-Heroes/Studio 60/L&O
Thursdays-Scrubs/New Comedy/Earl/The Office/ER
Fridays-DOND/Las Vegas/Crossing Jordan

Final season of The Apprentice can air Sundays after Football along with Dateline and other shows.

Brent88 · 05-04-2006, 12:53 AM

FOX-Blah.

The CW

Sundays-Reba/Flirt or New Comedy/Everwood/Aquaman
Mondays-Chris/New Comedy/Girlfriends/The Game
Tuesdays-Gilmore/Veronica
Wednesdays-Top Model and Beauty and the Geek/Palm Springs and One Tree Hill(to avoid repeats)
Thursdays-Smallville/Supernatural
Fridays-Wrestling

Pavan · 05-04-2006, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Brent88

I really think ABC will renew one of the three dramas that premiered this season. None deserve it, but I think they will just so it won't be so embarrassing. Frontrunners seem to be either Invasion or Brian. If Invasion comes back, it won't be in the post-Lost slot though. I want to see CiC return the most but it looks doubtful. I like all three which is a shame.

I also see ABC basically cancelling every sitcom, except 1 or MAYBE 2, if they feel generous. Hope and Faith seems to be the frontrunner with Jim 2nd. I've also heard some recent rumblings about Lopez and Freddie, but I think those two are very doubtful. It just depends on how their sitcom pilots test.

They premiered more than three new dramas this season. Invasion is the only one that I think will return. It is too good of a show. I like Brian, too, but I doubt it. It would work so well after Grey's.

Hope & Faith the frontrunner? I don't think so. George Lopez is the frontrunner. They will bring back 2 or 3. Jim, Hope & Faith, and Freddie are the other candidates, in that order.

Brent88 · 05-04-2006, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pavanbadal

They premiered more than three new dramas this season. Invasion is the only one that I think will return. It is too good of a show. I like Brian, too, but I doubt it. It would work so well after Grey's.

Yeah, I meant the three that are still on right now.

About the sitcoms, I'm just going on speculation I've seen. To be perfectly honest, ABC should just cancel them all and start over.

masterblooregard · 05-04-2006, 03:18 AM

It does seem unlikely that ABC will renew any of their sitcoms as they've all disappointed in the ratings this past season. Plus looking at previous years, they canceled My Wife and Kids and 8 Simple Rules (which were once tent poles to ABC's lineup) without even batting an eyelash. They didn't even give the series time to do a proper finale and both ended with cliff-hangers. I wouldn't expect ABC to bring back George Lopez, Jim or Hope and Faith out of respect. Which is a shame. I think George Lopez and Hope and Faith are still very good and have enough steam to go atleast another season. I never liked According to Jim though. I just found it painfully un-funny, so I don't really care what happens to that show.

But unfortunately, if ABC were to keep only one of the three, my money's on Jim.

Also for NBC, I'd probably put SCRUBS in the "on the bubble" category. Scrubs is one of my all-time favorite sitcoms, but the ratings this past season were horrible (thanks to that cruddy time-slot!!). I wouldn't think of it as a lock to return.

Mr. Monitor · 05-04-2006, 08:50 AM

All changes are made Pav and Masterblooregard.

I just hope 'Bernie Mac' makes it to another season. After everything FOX has put that show through, the cast and crew deserve to go out on top IMO.

Superbowl · 05-04-2006, 10:16 AM

There is no way ABC will cancel all of their sitcoms. You need some veterans to go with any new ones. I bet that George Lopez, According to Jim and Freddie are back. I also have a hunch that they will do with Hope & Faith what they did with Less Than Perfect last year. By that I mean bring it back as a a mid season replacement to get a 4th year for syndication. I think Buena Vista wants Kelly Ripa's face in syndication to get free advertising for Regis & Kelly. Only 8 Simple Rules was canceled after 3 seasons just short of the 100 episodes needed for syndication. Watching the reruns on the WB I am still trying to figure out why. It is still better than most of the sitcoms they have on now. Okay, I won't start that rant again.

Also, I have heard that ABC still likes Sons & Daughters and may bring it back with more compatible shows around it. I hope that is not true. I think that show is awful.

By the way, being the huge 8 Simple Rules fan I am I am hoping that ABC picks up the new Sisters Project sitcom starring Kaley Cuoco. Somehow, I think they will not because I have not heard much buzz about it. However, I hope it is picked up. Kaley needs a new sitcom. That is her best type of show.

Scoobiedoo30 · 05-04-2006, 11:29 AM

Can Someone Please Let me know What Dates What Network will be doing there Upfrount's I am looking Forward to seeing What The ABC Televison Network and The CW Televison Network has on There Schedule for The 2006 2007 TV Season

Brent88 · 05-04-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by agmfox8@yahoo.com

Can Someone Please Let me know What Dates What Network will be doing there Upfrount's I am looking Forward to seeing What The ABC Televison Network and The CW Televison Network has on There Schedule for The 2006 2007 TV Season

NBC May 15, ABC May 16, CBS May 17, FOX and the CW? May 18.

The only one I'm unsure about is the CW.

Brent88 · 05-04-2006, 12:49 PM

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I just hope 'Bernie Mac' makes it to another season. After everything FOX has put that show through, the cast and crew deserve to go out on top IMO.

Please God no. Losing to Wrestling when UPN has had affiliates pulled(meaning FOX is avaliable in more homes) is downright unacceptable. It also drug down Trading Spouses(could the two be MORE uncompatitable?).

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Also, I have heard that ABC still likes Sons & Daughters and may bring it back with more compatible shows around it. I hope that is not true. I think that show is awful

That show is boring. If they renew it, it will suffer the same fate as Jake in Progress. They'll highly promote it's return for one episode, pull it, and then never mention it again.

One thing is clear, regardless of what ABC does with the sitcoms, Wednesday at 8 CANNOT be sitcoms! Lost is down significantly this season(but WOW what an ending last night) and it's going to get worse if ABC doesn't do something dramatic. I don't think putting on a lame drama that's going to flop will help much.

05-03-2006, 07:43 PM	#1
Mr. Monitor Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 27, 2004 Posts: 402	My Pre-Upfront Network Predictions Here's my current analysis of the status of all the shows on the 5 networks prior to the upfronts, which are two weeks away. It's kinda like how The Futon Critic does it. NBC Likely to Return: Crossing Jordan, Dateline NBC, Deal or No Deal, ER, Las Vegas, Law & Order, Law & Order:Criminal Intent, Law & Order:SVU, Medium, My Name is Earl,The Office On the Bubble:The Apprentice , The E-Ring, Scrubs, Surface, Teachers Unlikely to Return:Conviction, Fear Factor, Heist, Joey,Three Wishes Already Gone: The Apprentice: Martha Stewart, The Book of Daniel, Four Kings, Inconceivable, The West Wing, Will & Grace ABC Likely to Return: 20/20, According to Jim, America's Funniest Home Videos,Boston Legal, Dancing With The Stars, Desperate Housewives, Extreme Makeover: Home Edition, The George Lopez Show, Grey's Anatomy, Lost, Supernanny,Wife Swap On the Bubble: American Inventor, The Bachelor, Freddie, Hope & Faith, Invasion, Less Then Perfect, Primetime Live, Rodney Unlikely to Return: Commander in Chief, Crumbs, The Evidence, In Justice, What About Brian? Already Gone: Alias, Emily's Reasons Why Not, Hot Properties, Jake in Progress, Miracle Workers, Night Stalker,Sons & Daughters CBS Likely to Return: 48 Hours Mystery, 60 Minutes, The Amazing Race, Cold Case, Criminal Minds, CSI, CSI: Miami, CSI: NY, Ghost Whisperer, How I Met Your Mother, NCIS, Num3ers,Survivor, Two and a Half Men, The Unit, Without a Trace On the Bubble: Close to Home, Courting Alex, The King of Queens, The New Adventures of Old Christine, Out of Practice Unlikely to Return: Still Standing Already Gone: Love Monkey, Threshold, Yes Dear FOX Likely to Return: 24, American Dad, American Idol, America's Most Wanted, Bones, Cops, House, Family Guy, King of the Hill, Prison Break, The Simpsons, Trading Spouses, Unan1mous On the Bubble: The Bernie Mac Show , Free Ride, The Loop, Nanny 911, The O.C., The War at Home Unlikely to Return: Stacked Already Gone: Arrested Development, Head Cases, Killer Instinct, Kitchen Confidential, Malcolm in the Middle, Reunion, That 70's Show The CW Likely to Return: America's Next Top Model, Beauty and the Geek, Everybody Hates Chris, Gilmore Girls, Girlfriends, Reba, Smallville, Supernatural,Veronica Mars, WWE Smackdown On the Bubble: Everwood, One Tree Hill Unlikely to Return: All of Us, The Bedford Diaries, Blue Collar TV, Cuts, Eve, Half & Half, Living With Fran, Love Inc., One on One, Modern Man, Pepper Dennis, Related, Survival of the Richest, Twins Already Gone: 7th Heaven, Charmed, Get This Party Started, Just Legal, Sex Love & Secrets, South Beach, What I Like About You Whattaya Think?
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05-03-2006, 11:26 PM	#2
Pavan SO News/Reviews Director Administrator Forum Superstar Join Date: Feb 17, 2000 Location: Linden, NJ (Where Hal Linden got his last name from!) Posts: 26,821	Switch The Evidence and Invasion. Invasion has a shot. Evidence does not.
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05-04-2006, 12:30 AM	#3
Brent88 Member Forum Star Join Date: Aug 01, 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 16,174	I really think ABC will renew one of the three dramas that premiered this season. None deserve it, but I think they will just so it won't be so embarrassing. Frontrunners seem to be either Invasion or Brian. If Invasion comes back, it won't be in the post-Lost slot though. I want to see CiC return the most but it looks doubtful. I like all three which is a shame. I also see ABC basically cancelling every sitcom, except 1 or MAYBE 2, if they feel generous. Hope and Faith seems to be the frontrunner with Jim 2nd. I've also heard some recent rumblings about Lopez and Freddie, but I think those two are very doubtful. It just depends on how their sitcom pilots test. I wish they would release their early renewals... Boston Legal and Supernanny have been reported on the internet, but ABC has not confirmed either one(not that I doubt it). At CBS, their Monday lineup is weakening. Only Two and a Half Men and Christine are doing well, King of Queens is probably dead. The stars want more money and it lost not only to Deal or No Deal Monday, but also Wife Swap AND Prison Break! Absolutely pathetic. They don't deserve another penny in their salary. This whole night is in real trouble if ABC does indeed move Grey's(which I'm confident they will). The Amazing Race will likely NOT be on the Fall schedule. CBS only ordered one season and it's doing very bad on Wednesdays at 8.
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05-04-2006, 11:29 AM	#13
Scoobiedoo30 Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Jun 27, 2002 Location: KENNER, LOUISIANA Posts: 27,654	My Upfrount Net Work Predictions Can Someone Please Let me know What Dates What Network will be doing there Upfrount's I am looking Forward to seeing What The ABC Televison Network and The CW Televison Network has on There Schedule for The 2006 2007 TV Season
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05-04-2006, 12:37 AM	#4
Brent88 Member Forum Star Join Date: Aug 01, 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 16,174	Here's my ABC idea: Sundays-AFV/EM: HE/DH/Brothers and Sisters or another new drama Mondays-Wife Swap/Grey's/Brian or another new drama Tuesdays-New Comedies(or one new and Jim)/Hope and Faith/New Comedy/Boston Legal Wednesdays-DWTS/Lost/Nine Lives or another new drama Thursdays-The Bachelor or Reality/DWTS Results/Secrets of a Small Town or another new drama Fridays-Invasion?/Supernanny/20/20 Some risky moves, but the schedule they have now isn't working for the most part.

05-04-2006, 12:43 AM	#5
Brent88 Member Forum Star Join Date: Aug 01, 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 16,174	CBS Sundays 60 Minutes/Cold Case/New Drama/Crime Repeat The movie will not be able to compete against ABC AND Football on NBC If the new drama at 9 is successful, premiere a new one at 10 after the Super Bowl and then launch it there. This could be a HUGE opening if ABC moves Grey's. Mondays-Old Christine/New Comedy/2.5 Men/New Comedy/CSI: Miami Tuesdays-NCIS/The Unit/Company Town or another new drama Wednesdays-Jericho or another new drama/Criminal Minds/CSI: NY Thursdays-Survivor/CSI/Without a Trace Fridays-Ghost Whisperer/Close to Home/Numb3rs CBS is probably the easiest of the 5 to figure out. Only a few problem areas. (I don't know where HIMYM should go, the numbers are bad on Mondays at 8:30).

05-04-2006, 12:49 AM	#6
Brent88 Member Forum Star Join Date: Aug 01, 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 16,174	NBC Sundays-Football Mondays-DOND/L&O: CI/Medium Tuesdays-The Biggest Loser/Black Donnellys/L&O: SVU Wednesdays-Heroes/Studio 60/L&O Thursdays-Scrubs/New Comedy/Earl/The Office/ER Fridays-DOND/Las Vegas/Crossing Jordan Final season of The Apprentice can air Sundays after Football along with Dateline and other shows.

05-04-2006, 12:53 AM	#7
Brent88 Member Forum Star Join Date: Aug 01, 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 16,174	FOX-Blah. The CW Sundays-Reba/Flirt or New Comedy/Everwood/Aquaman Mondays-Chris/New Comedy/Girlfriends/The Game Tuesdays-Gilmore/Veronica Wednesdays-Top Model and Beauty and the Geek/Palm Springs and One Tree Hill(to avoid repeats) Thursdays-Smallville/Supernatural Fridays-Wrestling

05-04-2006, 03:18 AM	#10
masterblooregard Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 24, 2006 Location: michigan, usa Posts: 222	It does seem unlikely that ABC will renew any of their sitcoms as they've all disappointed in the ratings this past season. Plus looking at previous years, they canceled My Wife and Kids and 8 Simple Rules (which were once tent poles to ABC's lineup) without even batting an eyelash. They didn't even give the series time to do a proper finale and both ended with cliff-hangers. I wouldn't expect ABC to bring back George Lopez, Jim or Hope and Faith out of respect. Which is a shame. I think George Lopez and Hope and Faith are still very good and have enough steam to go atleast another season. I never liked According to Jim though. I just found it painfully un-funny, so I don't really care what happens to that show. But unfortunately, if ABC were to keep only one of the three, my money's on Jim. Also for NBC, I'd probably put SCRUBS in the "on the bubble" category. Scrubs is one of my all-time favorite sitcoms, but the ratings this past season were horrible (thanks to that cruddy time-slot!!). I wouldn't think of it as a lock to return.

05-04-2006, 08:50 AM	#11
Mr. Monitor Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 27, 2004 Posts: 402	All changes are made Pav and Masterblooregard. I just hope 'Bernie Mac' makes it to another season. After everything FOX has put that show through, the cast and crew deserve to go out on top IMO.

05-04-2006, 10:16 AM	#12
Superbowl Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 13, 2005 Posts: 1,107	There is no way ABC will cancel all of their sitcoms. You need some veterans to go with any new ones. I bet that George Lopez, According to Jim and Freddie are back. I also have a hunch that they will do with Hope & Faith what they did with Less Than Perfect last year. By that I mean bring it back as a a mid season replacement to get a 4th year for syndication. I think Buena Vista wants Kelly Ripa's face in syndication to get free advertising for Regis & Kelly. Only 8 Simple Rules was canceled after 3 seasons just short of the 100 episodes needed for syndication. Watching the reruns on the WB I am still trying to figure out why. It is still better than most of the sitcoms they have on now. Okay, I won't start that rant again. Also, I have heard that ABC still likes Sons & Daughters and may bring it back with more compatible shows around it. I hope that is not true. I think that show is awful. By the way, being the huge 8 Simple Rules fan I am I am hoping that ABC picks up the new Sisters Project sitcom starring Kaley Cuoco. Somehow, I think they will not because I have not heard much buzz about it. However, I hope it is picked up. Kaley needs a new sitcom. That is her best type of show.