Trader Check jayman2230

[Dragonbear]

Okay. I approached someone by the login here of jayman2230
for a trade. We started working out the deals.

The first thing I noticed is that he is from the UK. Which is fine
depending on the items available.

Just seeing if anyone has ever traded with him.

I did ask for 2 references and received these two as
references

Goodtoyou9966@lycos.com
tylersweet9999@lycos.com

So if anyone has any information I'd appreciate it.

J

[jasimon1]

Personally, the references look suspicious to me. Is the trader's email a lycos email?

[Lamont]

ok dragon bear

whats the guys name and city and state
sounds REALLL fishy to me

2 refernces with almost identical screen names with the same server?

hmm isnt that coincidental

[padre]

Ok, this will really make it suspicious! I stopped replying to jayman2230(@lycos.com) because his answers weren't making sense. Shortly after that, I recieved a PM from a new Sitcom account called "jameswhite15@lycos.c". This person wanted my trade list, and when I asked for references, guess who they gave? Goodtoyou9966@lycos.com and tylersweet9999@lycos.com

Ok, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and has feathers like a duck - I think we're safe in calling it a duck...

[Lamont]

I think it is time to post his FULL NAME and city and state

[april4972]

I too have been contacted by this person. He has a great list! If there is any question, why not just ask him to send first. If he doesn't send, don't make his DVDs. That's what I will do!
Steph

[Lamont]

April4972---- i used to feel the same way

BUT HERES WHY IT MATTERS

1. i did a trade with someone last year---- they emailed me and asked to do trade--- they listed FAKE references and i said U HAVE TO SEND FIRST

well 3 months later THEY DID Send first and i sent back to them AND GUESS WHAT---- they were ACTUALLY a previously banned bad trader---- so the discs they sent to me, were STOLEN from another trader who they stiffed over---- so i felt like crap

i mean i got the 15 discs i was owed, BUT THE PERSON WHO THEY STOLE THEM FROM didnt get a thing, and now i was tangled up in it

2. SUE MAPLES----- we all know what a bad trader she is, I TOLD HER SAME THING last year--- she had to send first--- WELL GUESS WHAT? she sent me a ton of HORRIBLE QUALITY, DEFECTIVE non usable discs---- when i told her they were crap, i got into a big mess where she hassled me, called me a liar and a thief, threatened me etc etc etc

SO MY BELIEF IS, if the person is starting off a trade BY LYING--- NO MATTER WHAT THEY HAVE--- they are a scammer or thief and I WILL NOT get involved with people like that NO MATTER WHAT

i dont want discs stolen from anyone else on the board

my integrity is worth more than a few discs

*** PS this is NOT saying this guy fits this mold, but it is suspicious

[padre]

That's my belief as well (what Lamont has stated). If they were legit, why would they fake references. Then, in my case, why would they try to trade with me under another account name???

[april4972]

Originally Posted by Lamont

April4972---- i used to feel the same way

BUT HERES WHY IT MATTERS

1. i did a trade with someone last year---- they emailed me and asked to do trade--- they listed FAKE references and i said U HAVE TO SEND FIRST

well 3 months later THEY DID Send first and i sent back to them AND GUESS WHAT---- they were ACTUALLY a previously banned bad trader---- so the discs they sent to me, were STOLEN from another trader who they stiffed over---- so i felt like crap

i mean i got the 15 discs i was owed, BUT THE PERSON WHO THEY STOLE THEM FROM didnt get a thing, and now i was tangled up in it

2. SUE MAPLES----- we all know what a bad trader she is, I TOLD HER SAME THING last year--- she had to send first--- WELL GUESS WHAT? she sent me a ton of HORRIBLE QUALITY, DEFECTIVE non usable discs---- when i told her they were crap, i got into a big mess where she hassled me, called me a liar and a thief, threatened me etc etc etc

SO MY BELIEF IS, if the person is starting off a trade BY LYING--- NO MATTER WHAT THEY HAVE--- they are a scammer or thief and I WILL NOT get involved with people like that NO MATTER WHAT

i dont want discs stolen from anyone else on the board

my integrity is worth more than a few discs

Lamont-
That makes a lot of sense! I didn't think of it that way....but I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, as you know, before I think of them as a scammer. Hopefully this person will end up being a great trader, like I said he has lots of great stuff...

[Lamont]

BUT my question is

WHY IN THE WORLD would an honest person and honest trader USES FAKE REFERENCES and MULITPLE Email accounts to contact someone???

there is NO logical reason
UNLESS......

[padre]

I know the reason for the Multiple Email accounts - after I got tired of dealing with this person (jayman2230), I put them on my ignore list....that's right about the time they created jameswhite15 - to get around my block. Now that names on the list too. Just waiting for the 3rd new name to approach.

[y2k3Joker]

Originally Posted by padre

I know the reason for the Multiple Email accounts - after I got tired of dealing with this person (jayman2230), I put them on my block list....that's right about the time they created jameswhite15 - to get around my block. Now that names on the list too. Just waiting for the 3rd new name to approach.

That's harsh

What happened to "every man's innocent until proven guilty?"


I think the posse's getting ready for another

[padre]

what's harsh? This is the actual series of events that have led me to NOT trust this person. Would you trust them if they 1) sent you bogus references and 2) used a 2nd Sitcom account to try to get you to trade with them?

Besides, I thought that 2nd thing was against the Sitcom rules. Am I wrong?

[Lamont]

you know Joker the sex pistols sang
NO ONE IS INNOCENT

ha ha ha

i dont know the guy at all, no emails, no dealings, no nothing


BUT the mere fact that when he is asked for references
he give 2 email address-- BOTH VERY SIMILAR and BOTH with his same Server
And BOTH are people NONE OF US EVER HEARD of
and the fact that he creates a new email to try to get Padres attention

that alone, makes him look Suspicious as Hell

and there are so many good traders here, why would people waste time on people who start off by being dishonest?

[y2k3Joker]

Nothing wrong with being suspicious and cautious - quite another to make assumptions public.

Everything could be taken care of behind the scenes.