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Jack1000 · 03-16-2006, 09:57 PM

Guys,

If you have ever seen "I Didn't Raise My Pig To Be A Soilder" (a.k.a "Arnold is Drafted") on TV LAND, you can see just how bad it is. Not in terms of storyline, but in terms of episode print quality. It is obviously a 16mm or 35mm back up print that they used. I thought the film was gonna break at any moment! It is good that the DVD versions of the first three Seasons of Green Acres have done a fairly good job of restoring the prints. I seem to recall at least one other episode that TV Land uses a back up print on for Green Acres. Does anyone know which one it is?

Does anyone know who the distributer is for Green Acres and if the syndicated prints/edits on them are the same as TV Land's versions? TV Land should REALLY try to get a better print of this episode! I recall my local syndicate affiliate showing Green Acres last year on a station that we have on digital cable, and all the episodes looked great. So, I would think that TV Land has different edits than local syndicated stations. Thank God for DVD and uncut, quality print episodes! (Considering the age of this series.)

Jack

gilligan fanatic · 03-16-2006, 10:03 PM

yeah, I noticed that too. A few other ones aren't in the best shape either like A Star Named Arnold is Born. At least its not every episode though and like you said, thank god for the DVD sets.

treky · 03-17-2006, 01:46 AM

yea, I've noticed that about "A Star Named Arnold is Born".

Coffeecup · 03-18-2006, 09:05 PM

Maybe the pig episodes were done differently.

TV Knowledge Fan · 04-19-2006, 03:43 PM

...that some of the master negatives of certain episodes weren't available, and that, in the '80s, Orion Television had to use the best available 16mm film prints to compensate {i.e. "I Didn't Raise My Pig To Be a Soldier"}. Perhaps the ones released on DVD [by MGM/UA/SONY] were struck from better ones
(hopefully).

TV Knowledge Fan · 04-19-2006, 03:48 PM

....Sony Pictures Television is now the owner and distributor of "GREEN ACRES", having acquired MGM/UA, which had acquired Orion's film and TV library, who HAD acquired American International Pictures' film & TV library, which included all the Filmways TV series EXCEPT "THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES" and "PETTICOAT JUNCTION" [those are owned by CBS/VIACOM]. Got that?

Jack1000 · 04-19-2006, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TV Knowledge Fan

....Sony Pictures Television is now the owner and distributor of "GREEN ACRES", having acquired MGM/UA, which had acquired Orion's film and TV library, who HAD acquired American International Pictures' film & TV library, which included all the Filmways TV series EXCEPT "THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES" and "PETTICOAT JUNCTION" [those are owned by CBS/VIACOM]. Got that?

Thanks for the clarification!

Jack

treky · 04-20-2006, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TV Knowledge Fan

....Sony Pictures Television is now the owner and distributor of "GREEN ACRES", having acquired MGM/UA, which had acquired Orion's film and TV library, who HAD acquired American International Pictures' film & TV library, which included all the Filmways TV series EXCEPT "THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES" and "PETTICOAT JUNCTION" [those are owned by CBS/VIACOM]. Got that?

I thought that PARAMOUNT owned seasons 3 to 9 of "THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES"?

TV Knowledge Fan · 04-20-2006, 05:45 PM

---PARAMOUNT/VIACOM owns the rights to all nine seasons of "THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES" (even though most of the first two are in public domain).
The deal Jay Sommers made with CBS and Filmways on "GREEN ACRES" was separate from Henning's on "HILLBILLIES" and "PETTICOAT JUNCTION". That's why Filmways got the rights to syndicate it, and the rights to the others went to CBS/VIACOM.

Jack1000 · 04-26-2006, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TV Knowledge Fan

---PARAMOUNT/VIACOM owns the rights to all nine seasons of "THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES" (even though most of the first two are in public domain).
The deal Jay Sommers made with CBS and Filmways on "GREEN ACRES" was separate from Henning's on "HILLBILLIES" and "PETTICOAT JUNCTION". That's why Filmways got the rights to syndicate it, and the rights to the others went to CBS/VIACOM.

Interesting!

So is it assumed that Lisa's closing, "This has been a Filmways presentation darling." was NOT a part of the original airing and was added when Filmways got the syndicated rights?

Jack

treky · 04-27-2006, 01:27 AM

no, that closing was there when the show originnally aired. I remember my brother and me used to make fun of it, and also the one on "THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES" when Donna Douglas would say over the Filmways logo "THIS HAS BEEN A FILMWAYS PREESANTATION"* in her Elly May voice. (it's not on the MPI DVDs because she just said it on the color episodes)

*no, that's not a typo. She'd pronounce "prEsentation" as "prEEsentation"

TV Knowledge Fan · 04-27-2006, 05:52 PM

Bill Baldwin, the show's announcer {"'THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES'!!!"}, was also the one who announced, "THIS has been a FILMWAYS presentation..." during the first three seasons [with an additional credit immediately after that which read, "in association with THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK"]. That credit is usually deleted on home video (especially the public domain editions).

03-16-2006, 09:57 PM	#1
Jack1000 Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 05, 2001 Posts: 2,055	"I Didn't Raise My Pig To Be A Soilder" - Horrible TV Land Print! Guys, If you have ever seen "I Didn't Raise My Pig To Be A Soilder" (a.k.a "Arnold is Drafted") on TV LAND, you can see just how bad it is. Not in terms of storyline, but in terms of episode print quality. It is obviously a 16mm or 35mm back up print that they used. I thought the film was gonna break at any moment! It is good that the DVD versions of the first three Seasons of Green Acres have done a fairly good job of restoring the prints. I seem to recall at least one other episode that TV Land uses a back up print on for Green Acres. Does anyone know which one it is? Does anyone know who the distributer is for Green Acres and if the syndicated prints/edits on them are the same as TV Land's versions? TV Land should REALLY try to get a better print of this episode! I recall my local syndicate affiliate showing Green Acres last year on a station that we have on digital cable, and all the episodes looked great. So, I would think that TV Land has different edits than local syndicated stations. Thank God for DVD and uncut, quality print episodes! (Considering the age of this series.) Jack

03-16-2006, 10:03 PM	#2
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03-17-2006, 01:46 AM	#3
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04-19-2006, 03:43 PM	#5
TV Knowledge Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 29, 2006 Location: Long Branch, N.J. Posts: 2,577	You will discover... ...that some of the master negatives of certain episodes weren't available, and that, in the '80s, Orion Television had to use the best available 16mm film prints to compensate {i.e. "I Didn't Raise My Pig To Be a Soldier"}. Perhaps the ones released on DVD [by MGM/UA/SONY] were struck from better ones (hopefully).

04-19-2006, 03:48 PM	#6
TV Knowledge Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 29, 2006 Location: Long Branch, N.J. Posts: 2,577	To 'jack1000'.... ....Sony Pictures Television is now the owner and distributor of "GREEN ACRES", having acquired MGM/UA, which had acquired Orion's film and TV library, who HAD acquired American International Pictures' film & TV library, which included all the Filmways TV series EXCEPT "THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES" and "PETTICOAT JUNCTION" [those are owned by CBS/VIACOM]. Got that?

03-18-2006, 09:05 PM	#4
Coffeecup coffeecup. Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 17, 2003 Location: snoozeville Posts: 3,183	Maybe the pig episodes were done differently.

04-20-2006, 05:45 PM	#9
TV Knowledge Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 29, 2006 Location: Long Branch, N.J. Posts: 2,577	Actually, 'treky'-- ---PARAMOUNT/VIACOM owns the rights to all nine seasons of "THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES" (even though most of the first two are in public domain). The deal Jay Sommers made with CBS and Filmways on "GREEN ACRES" was separate from Henning's on "HILLBILLIES" and "PETTICOAT JUNCTION". That's why Filmways got the rights to syndicate it, and the rights to the others went to CBS/VIACOM.

04-27-2006, 01:27 AM	#11
treky star trek fan Eternal Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Feb 25, 2002 Location: Conshohocken, pennsylvania Posts: 14,490	no, that closing was there when the show originnally aired. I remember my brother and me used to make fun of it, and also the one on "THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES" when Donna Douglas would say over the Filmways logo "THIS HAS BEEN A FILMWAYS PREESANTATION"* in her Elly May voice. (it's not on the MPI DVDs because she just said it on the color episodes) *no, that's not a typo. She'd pronounce "prEsentation" as "prEEsentation"

04-27-2006, 05:52 PM	#12
TV Knowledge Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 29, 2006 Location: Long Branch, N.J. Posts: 2,577	Actually... Bill Baldwin, the show's announcer {"'THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES'!!!"}, was also the one who announced, "THIS has been a FILMWAYS presentation..." during the first three seasons [with an additional credit immediately after that which read, "in association with THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK"]. That credit is usually deleted on home video (especially the public domain editions).