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Lyndi48 · 03-14-2006, 03:23 PM

Was this case solved and was she involved?

crystaldawn · 03-14-2006, 05:03 PM

I've never seen anywhere where Mafous Huck was captured, I certainly hope he was. It will probably be pretty tough though as they think he's in Bangladesh but of course not impossible. I think she knew more than she was letting on. She refused a polygraph (which I know is her right to do) but it would have been basic enough questions. I really didn't buy her tears on the segment and thought it was just a ploy to make herself look like the victim. Trying to make everyone look ill on Todd's family and think "poor Christie".

ouphe · 03-14-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by crystaldawn

I've never seen anywhere where Mafous Huck was captured, I certainly hope he was. It will probably be pretty tough though as they think he's in Bangladesh but of course not impossible. I think she knew more than she was letting on. She refused a polygraph (which I know is her right to do) but it would have been basic enough questions. I really didn't buy her tears on the segment and thought it was just a ploy to make herself look like the victim. Trying to make everyone look ill on Todd's family and think "poor Christie".

More excellent insight from crystaldawn.

In cases like this, submission to a professionally-administered polygraph examination and Brain Fingerprinting session ought to be compulsory. While not perfect, polygraph tests are, for the most part, phenomenally accurate:

In the past 75 years, over 250 studies have been conducted on the validity, accuracy and reliability of polygraph testing (American Polygraph Association 1996 Polygraph Issues & Answers). Based on twelve separate studies involving 2,174 real cases since 1980, evidence suggests that qualified field polygraph examiners are 98% accurate in their overall decisions (Ansley, N. 1990 The validity and reliability of polygraph decisions in real cases). This level of confidence is well within the guidelines for scientific measurements in other fields.

I too didn't buy Christie's crocodile tears.

Lyndi48 · 03-14-2006, 05:33 PM

What I find unusual is why would she feel the need to go home at 3 in the morning thinking that if she didnt her dad would be mad. I could see if it was 10 or 11 but at 3 in the morning its not worth the effort.

LooksLikeCRicci · 03-14-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyndi48

What I find unusual is why would she feel the need to go home at 3 in the morning thinking that if she didnt her dad would be mad. I could see if it was 10 or 11 but at 3 in the morning its not worth the effort.

I don't know... depends on the parent. With my mom, there's TOTALLY a difference.

Tony Ballesteros · 03-14-2006, 06:37 PM

she was probably involved, and she seemed like abit of a whore.

synthisislab · 03-15-2006, 12:32 AM

I posted this on IMDB:

I think that Christy Mutzfeld should at least take a polygraph, why wouldn't she if she didn't have anything to hide? And how could Mafous Huck have travelled back into the US without being redflagged? That doesn't make sense to me. The police should have checked the phone records at Todd Kelly's house to see if Mafous called someone to help him clean-up and get back home within 60-90 minutes. I believe that it would take probably 30-60 minutes to clean-up the crime scene alone, then another 120-150 minutes to walk back the 10 miles. (It took him 11pm-1am to walk to Todd's house) So he had to have gotten help with the crime scene clean-up and/or a ride home from a friend. I don't believe Christy would have helped him under duress and not have come forward about it once she was safely out of danger unless Mafous threatened her family. I'm also wondering why Mafous didn't take the body away from the house with the sheets and the towels or whatever was used to clean-up. It seems illogical that he would leave behind the body and the cigarette butts.

Lyndi48 · 03-15-2006, 01:33 AM

So the deal with the cigarette butts is that Mafouse was smoking and watching them through the window? I am still bothered with why Christie would leave to go home at 3 in the morning only to come back a few hours later.

synthisislab · 03-15-2006, 03:22 AM

Yeah, I wondered about that also. Why wouldn't she just stay overnight with Todd? Unless.... Mafous interrupted them in bed, killed Todd, scared Christy into helping him wrap Todd's body up to drag it into the living room and clean up the bedroom. Then she drove Mafous home where he called her house so that it would move the suspicion away from her. The thing that I don't get was why didn't they dispose of Todd's body and if she was under duress, why didn't she tell the cops what really happened? Unless she was scared for her and her family's safety (Maybe Mafous threatened them). I know that when I saw the reenactment of this scenario, that after Todd was killed in bed, Mafous scared the crap out of me and I'm sure Christy was completely frightened. I wonder how long after the murder did Mafous stick around town before fleeing.

JimmyHendricks · 03-15-2006, 03:07 PM

I don't think she had anything to do with it--either the murder itself or the "clean up". The only think I find ODD is why she would drop Todd off at 3am, only to return 4 hours or so later. Why not just stay there?

Well, perhaps she had to shower, or change clothes, or eat, or whatever. I've hung out with friends numerous times and went home, only for an hour or so, just to eat, relax, etc. Perhaps she hadn't been home in a day or so. Who knows?

Mafoos(sp?) acted alone. Todd's father is obviously bitter at Christie, since well, the guy she dated killed his son. It's all HER fault, and since she's around and Mafoos isn't, she takes the blame. If I were her, I'd refuse a polygraph too. SUre, she might pass, but what if she fails?

If she passes, everything's great. If she fails, no matter what, she won't be trusted. Wasn't there one segment where an attorney said he would never let a client take a polygraph? I agree--even if they pass, there are ways to "beat" the test.

Well, it seems Lifetime believes we need to see this segment again today! Along with the "Pierre April" story. I guess they really want to solve this case!

synthisislab · 03-15-2006, 04:05 PM

You do bring up some interesting points. I kind of had the impression that the father was blaming her because if it wasn't for Christy, her son would still be alive.

Kane · 03-16-2006, 09:44 AM

I still remember the case also being profiled on AMW. This was not too long after UM originally featured the case. Some of my memories about the AMW segment are sketchy, but it was somewhat different from the UM segment. A difference was that (at least to my recollection) the AMW segment didn't have Todd's father or any of his other loved ones blaming Christy.

Lyndi48 · 03-16-2006, 10:08 AM

Was it possible for Mafous to see everything clearly that was happening through the window? I kind of have doubts Mafous could have watched Christie and Todd in bed for an extended length of time that night without having an instant rage build up. If Mafous arrived not long after Christie arrived this would indicate he saw them before ending up in bed so he would have seen everything and in my opinion would have broke into the house shortly after and quickly made his way to the room. If this is how it happened Christie and Todd would not had been in bed very long at all before being interrupted by Mafous. In this case you would think Christie would have helped Mafous in some way with clean up or transportation. Would Christie had gotten dressed quickly in this case and importantly if anyone was up at her house when she arrived home was there anything unusual with her clothes that would have indicated she quickly got dressed with no attention to details? Another possibility is Mafous arrived much later and saw Christie and Todd just before getting out of bed which would mean they were not interrupted and likely left where Mafous was able to get in and when Christie drpped Todd off he was murdered and Christie not there.

crystaldawn · 03-16-2006, 10:20 AM

Yes its hard to say how long Mafous was there. On one hand he could have seen them in bed and just waited until Todd was there alone but on the other hand if Todd had a dog outside (as Christi said) then surely he would have alerted Todd to someone being out there. Christi does say that she wasn't there during the murder, right? I think Mafous didn't want to kill Christi because he figured once Todd was out of the picture Christi would get back with him.

What I don't understand is WHY Mafous bothered to clean up the crime scene? Did he not think police would realize that Todd had 6 stab wounds in him?? One theory might be that Mafous and Todd struggled (Todd did seem to be a big guy) and maybe some of Mafous Huck's blood was shed as well so he wanted to clean up all evidence that would connect him to the crime scene. Any theories on why the clean up was necessary?

synthisislab · 03-16-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by crystaldawn

Yes its hard to say how long Mafous was there. On one hand he could have seen them in bed and just waited until Todd was there alone but on the other hand if Todd had a dog outside (as Christi said) then surely he would have alerted Todd to someone being out there. Christi does say that she wasn't there during the murder, right? I think Mafous didn't want to kill Christi because he figured once Todd was out of the picture Christi would get back with him.

What I don't understand is WHY Mafous bothered to clean up the crime scene? Did he not think police would realize that Todd had 6 stab wounds in him?? One theory might be that Mafous and Todd struggled (Todd did seem to be a big guy) and maybe some of Mafous Huck's blood was shed as well so he wanted to clean up all evidence that would connect him to the crime scene. Any theories on why the clean up was necessary?

I believe Mafous was hanging around outside for a little while (maybe 30-60 minutes) because of the cigarette butts found next to the tree. This depends on how many cigarette butts and how badly Mafous was chain-smoking them. Also, Todd says that the dog is tied up around the backside of the house and it looked as if Mafous was standing next to a tree on the front side of the house in the reenactment. I believe that Mafous tried to clean-up and wanted to take Todd's body away in Todd's car, but didn't plan on Todd's car not working which was speculated by the policeman on that segment. What I'm wondering was this, why did Mafous walk 10 miles to the murder scene and why was he barefoot? Maybe he was expecting to steal Todd's vehicle after the murder to dispose of Todd's body and to be able to flee undetected, but why walk around barefoot? That part to me was strange. Also, how did Mafous dispose of the sheets and whatever he used to clean-up the crime scene?

03-14-2006, 03:23 PM	#1
Lyndi48 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 17, 2006 Posts: 22	Christie Mutzfeld and Todd Kelly Was this case solved and was she involved?

03-14-2006, 06:37 PM	#6
Tony Ballesteros Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 28, 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 123	she was probably involved, and she seemed like abit of a whore.
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03-16-2006, 09:44 AM	#12
Kane Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 07, 2001 Location: MA, United States Posts: 3,367	The Mafuz case was once featured on America's Most Wanted I still remember the case also being profiled on AMW. This was not too long after UM originally featured the case. Some of my memories about the AMW segment are sketchy, but it was somewhat different from the UM segment. A difference was that (at least to my recollection) the AMW segment didn't have Todd's father or any of his other loved ones blaming Christy.

03-14-2006, 05:03 PM	#2
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	I've never seen anywhere where Mafous Huck was captured, I certainly hope he was. It will probably be pretty tough though as they think he's in Bangladesh but of course not impossible. I think she knew more than she was letting on. She refused a polygraph (which I know is her right to do) but it would have been basic enough questions. I really didn't buy her tears on the segment and thought it was just a ploy to make herself look like the victim. Trying to make everyone look ill on Todd's family and think "poor Christie".

03-14-2006, 05:33 PM	#4
Lyndi48 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 17, 2006 Posts: 22	What I find unusual is why would she feel the need to go home at 3 in the morning thinking that if she didnt her dad would be mad. I could see if it was 10 or 11 but at 3 in the morning its not worth the effort.

03-15-2006, 12:32 AM	#7
synthisislab Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 552	I posted this on IMDB: I think that Christy Mutzfeld should at least take a polygraph, why wouldn't she if she didn't have anything to hide? And how could Mafous Huck have travelled back into the US without being redflagged? That doesn't make sense to me. The police should have checked the phone records at Todd Kelly's house to see if Mafous called someone to help him clean-up and get back home within 60-90 minutes. I believe that it would take probably 30-60 minutes to clean-up the crime scene alone, then another 120-150 minutes to walk back the 10 miles. (It took him 11pm-1am to walk to Todd's house) So he had to have gotten help with the crime scene clean-up and/or a ride home from a friend. I don't believe Christy would have helped him under duress and not have come forward about it once she was safely out of danger unless Mafous threatened her family. I'm also wondering why Mafous didn't take the body away from the house with the sheets and the towels or whatever was used to clean-up. It seems illogical that he would leave behind the body and the cigarette butts.

03-15-2006, 01:33 AM	#8
Lyndi48 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 17, 2006 Posts: 22	So the deal with the cigarette butts is that Mafouse was smoking and watching them through the window? I am still bothered with why Christie would leave to go home at 3 in the morning only to come back a few hours later.

03-15-2006, 03:22 AM	#9
synthisislab Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 552	Yeah, I wondered about that also. Why wouldn't she just stay overnight with Todd? Unless.... Mafous interrupted them in bed, killed Todd, scared Christy into helping him wrap Todd's body up to drag it into the living room and clean up the bedroom. Then she drove Mafous home where he called her house so that it would move the suspicion away from her. The thing that I don't get was why didn't they dispose of Todd's body and if she was under duress, why didn't she tell the cops what really happened? Unless she was scared for her and her family's safety (Maybe Mafous threatened them). I know that when I saw the reenactment of this scenario, that after Todd was killed in bed, Mafous scared the crap out of me and I'm sure Christy was completely frightened. I wonder how long after the murder did Mafous stick around town before fleeing.

03-15-2006, 03:07 PM	#10
JimmyHendricks Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 11, 2004 Posts: 112	I don't think she had anything to do with it--either the murder itself or the "clean up". The only think I find ODD is why she would drop Todd off at 3am, only to return 4 hours or so later. Why not just stay there? Well, perhaps she had to shower, or change clothes, or eat, or whatever. I've hung out with friends numerous times and went home, only for an hour or so, just to eat, relax, etc. Perhaps she hadn't been home in a day or so. Who knows? Mafoos(sp?) acted alone. Todd's father is obviously bitter at Christie, since well, the guy she dated killed his son. It's all HER fault, and since she's around and Mafoos isn't, she takes the blame. If I were her, I'd refuse a polygraph too. SUre, she might pass, but what if she fails? If she passes, everything's great. If she fails, no matter what, she won't be trusted. Wasn't there one segment where an attorney said he would never let a client take a polygraph? I agree--even if they pass, there are ways to "beat" the test. Well, it seems Lifetime believes we need to see this segment again today! Along with the "Pierre April" story. I guess they really want to solve this case!

03-15-2006, 04:05 PM	#11
synthisislab Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 552	You do bring up some interesting points. I kind of had the impression that the father was blaming her because if it wasn't for Christy, her son would still be alive.

03-16-2006, 10:08 AM	#13
Lyndi48 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 17, 2006 Posts: 22	Was it possible for Mafous to see everything clearly that was happening through the window? I kind of have doubts Mafous could have watched Christie and Todd in bed for an extended length of time that night without having an instant rage build up. If Mafous arrived not long after Christie arrived this would indicate he saw them before ending up in bed so he would have seen everything and in my opinion would have broke into the house shortly after and quickly made his way to the room. If this is how it happened Christie and Todd would not had been in bed very long at all before being interrupted by Mafous. In this case you would think Christie would have helped Mafous in some way with clean up or transportation. Would Christie had gotten dressed quickly in this case and importantly if anyone was up at her house when she arrived home was there anything unusual with her clothes that would have indicated she quickly got dressed with no attention to details? Another possibility is Mafous arrived much later and saw Christie and Todd just before getting out of bed which would mean they were not interrupted and likely left where Mafous was able to get in and when Christie drpped Todd off he was murdered and Christie not there.

03-16-2006, 10:20 AM	#14
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	Yes its hard to say how long Mafous was there. On one hand he could have seen them in bed and just waited until Todd was there alone but on the other hand if Todd had a dog outside (as Christi said) then surely he would have alerted Todd to someone being out there. Christi does say that she wasn't there during the murder, right? I think Mafous didn't want to kill Christi because he figured once Todd was out of the picture Christi would get back with him. What I don't understand is WHY Mafous bothered to clean up the crime scene? Did he not think police would realize that Todd had 6 stab wounds in him?? One theory might be that Mafous and Todd struggled (Todd did seem to be a big guy) and maybe some of Mafous Huck's blood was shed as well so he wanted to clean up all evidence that would connect him to the crime scene. Any theories on why the clean up was necessary?