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crystaldawn · 02-24-2006, 06:22 PM

Has anyone else read this book? I just finished it and would highly recommend it to all you UM fans. Sheila (Lisa's mother) helps give a better idea of the type of person Lisa was. I realize in some crimes the victims gets overlooked in all the other details so it was nice reading about the type of person Lisa was and the loving relationship she had with her family. It also gives more info on the crime itself and a bit of info about the evil Dale Eaton. Of course there is so much in this case that UM left out including where they believe Lisa was abducted so this book fills in all the gaps. Its a definite recommended read for all of you who find this case interesting. Here is a link on how to buy it from Amazon for those interested:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/097...lance&n=283155

I would enjoy hearing any other people's opinion who have read this book as well.

Tony Ballesteros · 02-24-2006, 06:28 PM

want that the name of the chick nate married on 6 feet under?

PrettyinPink55 · 02-24-2006, 10:22 PM

Thanks for the recommendation crystaldawn! I'll be sure to check it out!!!!

Awsi Dooger · 02-24-2006, 11:14 PM

Thanks crystaldawn. I'm glad someone here read the book and mentioned it.

Here's a link I've posted before, to a very good site site dedicated to Lisa. It includes a picture of the cover of the book, and a forum to talk about the case, with some responses from Sheila Kimmell, although it looks to have been dormant for some time now: http://www.geocities.com/ForLisaKimmell/

DarkDante · 02-25-2006, 11:25 AM

The thing about the book is barring amazon it seems to be in "The Witness Protection Program" so to speak. The people at "Barnes & Nobles" said the book was recalled or "not stocked" so they can't even order it (and these are two seperate B&N in two different states)

Odd.

shek · 02-26-2006, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkDante

The thing about the book is barring amazon it seems to be in "The Witness Protection Program" so to speak. The people at "Barnes & Nobles" said the book was recalled or "not stocked" so they can't even order it (and these are two seperate B&N in two different states)

Odd.

Forgive me Darkdante but I am throuroughly confused. Are you talking about my book?? B&N maybe doesn't stock it in store but they can and will order it for someone and it is also available on their Internet site, nor has the book been "recalled" in any way, shape or form. So, I hope you mind, but could you tell me more? You could PM me if you'd prefer. Thanx.

And Thank You crystaldawn and awsidoooger for your feedback.

Sheila Kimmell

DarkDante · 02-26-2006, 11:57 AM

Yes I am talking about the book about Lisa. Actually two Barnes & Nobles (one in New Jersey and the HUGE store in New York City) said they can't order it. They said the book was not available at their warehouse or something like that. I can't remember exactly at the moment but bottom line is they said they cannot order it.

shek · 02-26-2006, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkDante

Yes I am talking about the book about Lisa. Actually two Barnes & Nobles (one in New Jersey and the HUGE store in New York City) said they can't order it. They said the book was not available at their warehouse or something like that. I can't remember exactly at the moment but bottom line is they said they cannot order it.

Thanx for the heads up and additional info Darkdante. I will be checking into this first thing tomorrow morning.

shek · 02-28-2006, 09:51 AM

FYI - I did call Barnes and Noble and they were confused also because some of their stores do carry it in stock and others that don't, can order it for someone upon request. Regardless, for those wanting to order the book, there are a number of places you can get it besides Barnes and Noble's.

Again, thanx to everyone for their feed back and thoughtful kindness.
Sheila Kimmell

TracyLynnS · 12-20-2010, 12:54 PM

I just finished reading Sheila Kimmell's book yesterday. I have to heartily agree with Crystal Dawn's recommendation. I ordered it from Amazon, along with several other books. IIRC, it had to be backordered and was the last book in my order that arrived. I don't know if that was a problem similar to what Dark Dante was experiencing with B&N or not.

I feel terrible that the multiple airings of the show never produced a lead to Eaton. I have to wonder if maybe this was due to his somewhat nomadic lifestyle and the fact that his "home base" was in a town that was very tiny. He seemed to socialize with only two or three residents, and it's doubtful anyone there even saw the UM segments.

There are so many details that weren't covered in the UM segment. For one thing, Eaton was such a sick SOB that he had set up Lisa's buried car with a pipe to the surface so he could use as his septic tank!

The original sheriff on the case was so concerned about his own issues (definitely minor compared to the fact that an innocent young woman had been murdered) that he couldn't work the case properly. It seemed that he needed to have an unhealthy control over every aspect and that justice for Lisa, and preventing this killer from repeating his offenses were a very distant second priority. The politics involved also bordered on the criminal, imo, and definitely stunted progress.

Eaton is so disgusting and dangerous, thank God he was finally convicted and removed from society. Lisa's life was purposed, focused, successful. She was an intelligent, determined young lady and definitely had a positive and wonderful future ahead of her. That she would cross paths with such a predator is awful.

After reading all the details provided, I'm sure that Eaton was a practiced killer by the time he took Lisa, and imo, he's definitely responsible for other murders.

biscuitgirl · 12-21-2010, 06:08 PM

Does the book explain how he captured her? Did he pull her car over or did he abduct her from somewhere? I have been wanting to read this book but it's kind of expensive and my library doesn't have it. I'll read it one of these days.

TracyLynnS · 12-21-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by biscuitgirl

Does the book explain how he captured her? Did he pull her car over or did he abduct her from somewhere? I have been wanting to read this book but it's kind of expensive and my library doesn't have it. I'll read it one of these days.

They really don't know for sure.

Eaton said that he caught Lisa in her car sort of casing his property as if she were up to no good and was going to steal from him. He thought she may have had an accomplice, but found out she was alone. (Almost everything he ever said about her is an attempt to make her look bad and is the opposite of her known character. It's disgusting.)

His proposed scenario is completely impossible, and nothing but a self serving lie on Eaton's part. Lisa (and her whole family) had a habit of using the trip odometer when travelling. The odometer on Lisa's car shows that it went almost the exact distance from her departure point to the rest stop. Eaton's property was quite a ways from the expressway and was no where near the route she was taking. IMO, there's just no way that she would be diverting from her travel plans in order to snoop around some felon's worthless property. And even if she were, her trip odometer would have shown that the car had driven that significant distance.

IIRC, Lisa's family believe that she stopped at a very nice, clean, well lit rest area that was close to the road. There is a picture of it in the book. It definitely gives the impression of a safe place to stop and isn't old, neglected, isolated, etc.

The theory is that Eaton abducted her at that rest area. A shell casing was found in her car. They think he may have shot into her car or shot out a window of her car and forcibly took her at gunpoint.

He was known to tow cars on a regular basis. They think he got Lisa subdued and trapped in the back of his truck, in a space behind the seats, then hooked her car up to his tow vehicle and drove off. Towing the car would explain how her car got from the expressway to Eaton's house without any more miles showing on the odometer.

It's my opinion that Eaton was out hunting for a victim that day. He constantly traveled the roads, looking for people to victimize, while carrying what can only be described as a rape kit in his vehicle. I believe he spent a great deal of his time hunting for victims.

Years after Lisa's murder, he was still doing this and pulled over to help a young family who's car had broken down. He pulled a gun on them and there was a terrible fight for their lives. Eaton had tools and weapons hidden within reach in his vehicle and every time one of these victims would knock a weapon out of his hand, he'd grab another from it's hiding spot. I think he used the gun plus 2 or 3 other weapons on the young family. IIRC, the husband beat Eaton with the butt of the shot gun until it broke and Eaton was still fighting them.

Steve W. · 12-23-2010, 12:32 PM

"IIRC, Lisa's family believe that she stopped at a very nice, clean, well lit rest area that was close to the road. There is a picture of it in the book. It definitely gives the impression of a safe place to stop and isn't old, neglected, isolated, etc.

The theory is that Eaton abducted her at that rest area. A shell casing was found in her car. They think he may have shot into her car or shot out a window of her car and forcibly took her at gunpoint.

He was known to tow cars on a regular basis. They think he got Lisa subdued and trapped in the back of his truck, in a space behind the seats, then hooked her car up to his tow vehicle and drove off. Towing the car would explain how her car got from the expressway to Eaton's house without any more miles showing on the odometer.

It's my opinion that Eaton was out hunting for a victim that day. He constantly traveled the roads, looking for people to victimize, while carrying what can only be described as a rape kit in his vehicle. I believe he spent a great deal of his time hunting for victims."

I think you nailed it. This is probably exactly what happened. I'm surprised there wasn't anyone who drove by him on the expressway and saw him towing her car before whatever exit he turned onto, but I suppose it wasn't very traveled at that time of night.

"Years after Lisa's murder, he was still doing this and pulled over to help a young family who's car had broken down. He pulled a gun on them and there was a terrible fight for their lives. Eaton had tools and weapons hidden within reach in his vehicle and every time one of these victims would knock a weapon out of his hand, he'd grab another from it's hiding spot. I think he used the gun plus 2 or 3 other weapons on the young family. IIRC, the husband beat Eaton with the butt of the shot gun until it broke and Eaton was still fighting them."

Did this family survive the attack/fight?

burbqueen · 12-23-2010, 01:52 PM

Steve W.

yes the family survived I read the story some months ago. A couple and a child car broke down I believed and Eaton offered to give them a ride. He attacked and subdued the wife first I think. Well those people werent having none of that. The wife and the husband knew they werent going out like that.

The story is amazing! The fought for their lives and forced Eaton to pull over. Eaton tried to say they attacked him but the police found out he was lying. They have the pictures and it was a serious beat down they issued on the SOB.

Hambone2421 · 12-24-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by burbqueen

The story is amazing! The fought for their lives and forced Eaton to pull over. Eaton tried to say they attacked him but the police found out he was lying. They have the pictures and it was a serious beat down they issued on the SOB.

Wow, I didnt know someone whooped his sorry ass! That's excellent news. Do you happen to remember the name of the family so I can look them up?

02-24-2006, 06:22 PM	#1
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	Book about Lisa Kimmell Has anyone else read this book? I just finished it and would highly recommend it to all you UM fans. Sheila (Lisa's mother) helps give a better idea of the type of person Lisa was. I realize in some crimes the victims gets overlooked in all the other details so it was nice reading about the type of person Lisa was and the loving relationship she had with her family. It also gives more info on the crime itself and a bit of info about the evil Dale Eaton. Of course there is so much in this case that UM left out including where they believe Lisa was abducted so this book fills in all the gaps. Its a definite recommended read for all of you who find this case interesting. Here is a link on how to buy it from Amazon for those interested: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/097...lance&n=283155 I would enjoy hearing any other people's opinion who have read this book as well.

02-24-2006, 06:28 PM	#2
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02-24-2006, 11:14 PM	#4
Awsi Dooger Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 18, 2003 Location: Miami Posts: 1,537	Thanks crystaldawn. I'm glad someone here read the book and mentioned it. Here's a link I've posted before, to a very good site site dedicated to Lisa. It includes a picture of the cover of the book, and a forum to talk about the case, with some responses from Sheila Kimmell, although it looks to have been dormant for some time now: http://www.geocities.com/ForLisaKimmell/

02-25-2006, 11:25 AM	#5
DarkDante Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 27, 2002 Posts: 1,569	The thing about the book is barring amazon it seems to be in "The Witness Protection Program" so to speak. The people at "Barnes & Nobles" said the book was recalled or "not stocked" so they can't even order it (and these are two seperate B&N in two different states) Odd.

02-26-2006, 11:57 AM	#7
DarkDante Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 27, 2002 Posts: 1,569	Yes I am talking about the book about Lisa. Actually two Barnes & Nobles (one in New Jersey and the HUGE store in New York City) said they can't order it. They said the book was not available at their warehouse or something like that. I can't remember exactly at the moment but bottom line is they said they cannot order it.

02-28-2006, 09:51 AM	#9
shek Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 19, 2003 Posts: 103	FYI - I did call Barnes and Noble and they were confused also because some of their stores do carry it in stock and others that don't, can order it for someone upon request. Regardless, for those wanting to order the book, there are a number of places you can get it besides Barnes and Noble's. Again, thanx to everyone for their feed back and thoughtful kindness. Sheila Kimmell

12-20-2010, 12:54 PM	#10
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	I just finished reading Sheila Kimmell's book yesterday. I have to heartily agree with Crystal Dawn's recommendation. I ordered it from Amazon, along with several other books. IIRC, it had to be backordered and was the last book in my order that arrived. I don't know if that was a problem similar to what Dark Dante was experiencing with B&N or not. I feel terrible that the multiple airings of the show never produced a lead to Eaton. I have to wonder if maybe this was due to his somewhat nomadic lifestyle and the fact that his "home base" was in a town that was very tiny. He seemed to socialize with only two or three residents, and it's doubtful anyone there even saw the UM segments. There are so many details that weren't covered in the UM segment. For one thing, Eaton was such a sick SOB that he had set up Lisa's buried car with a pipe to the surface so he could use as his septic tank! The original sheriff on the case was so concerned about his own issues (definitely minor compared to the fact that an innocent young woman had been murdered) that he couldn't work the case properly. It seemed that he needed to have an unhealthy control over every aspect and that justice for Lisa, and preventing this killer from repeating his offenses were a very distant second priority. The politics involved also bordered on the criminal, imo, and definitely stunted progress. Eaton is so disgusting and dangerous, thank God he was finally convicted and removed from society. Lisa's life was purposed, focused, successful. She was an intelligent, determined young lady and definitely had a positive and wonderful future ahead of her. That she would cross paths with such a predator is awful. After reading all the details provided, I'm sure that Eaton was a practiced killer by the time he took Lisa, and imo, he's definitely responsible for other murders.

12-21-2010, 06:08 PM	#11
biscuitgirl Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 01, 2009 Posts: 86	Does the book explain how he captured her? Did he pull her car over or did he abduct her from somewhere? I have been wanting to read this book but it's kind of expensive and my library doesn't have it. I'll read it one of these days.

12-23-2010, 12:32 PM	#13
Steve W. Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 03, 2010 Posts: 870	"IIRC, Lisa's family believe that she stopped at a very nice, clean, well lit rest area that was close to the road. There is a picture of it in the book. It definitely gives the impression of a safe place to stop and isn't old, neglected, isolated, etc. The theory is that Eaton abducted her at that rest area. A shell casing was found in her car. They think he may have shot into her car or shot out a window of her car and forcibly took her at gunpoint. He was known to tow cars on a regular basis. They think he got Lisa subdued and trapped in the back of his truck, in a space behind the seats, then hooked her car up to his tow vehicle and drove off. Towing the car would explain how her car got from the expressway to Eaton's house without any more miles showing on the odometer. It's my opinion that Eaton was out hunting for a victim that day. He constantly traveled the roads, looking for people to victimize, while carrying what can only be described as a rape kit in his vehicle. I believe he spent a great deal of his time hunting for victims." I think you nailed it. This is probably exactly what happened. I'm surprised there wasn't anyone who drove by him on the expressway and saw him towing her car before whatever exit he turned onto, but I suppose it wasn't very traveled at that time of night. "Years after Lisa's murder, he was still doing this and pulled over to help a young family who's car had broken down. He pulled a gun on them and there was a terrible fight for their lives. Eaton had tools and weapons hidden within reach in his vehicle and every time one of these victims would knock a weapon out of his hand, he'd grab another from it's hiding spot. I think he used the gun plus 2 or 3 other weapons on the young family. IIRC, the husband beat Eaton with the butt of the shot gun until it broke and Eaton was still fighting them." Did this family survive the attack/fight?