"The Rivals" episode edited on the dvd - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

vashti1999 · 02-05-2006, 10:47 PM

A music rights issue. I might be mistaken, but I could swear this was the episode where Prince's "I Wanna Be Your Lover" played when Willis dances with Lurlene. That instrumental mess they're dancing to on the dvd definitely wasn't part of the original broadcast. Can anyone who recorded this episode from tv confirm this?

Dean Winchester · 02-05-2006, 11:05 PM

I haven't gotten that far yet, but what a shame!! The Rivals is one of the best season 2 episodes IMO, plus, it aired the week I was born

vashti1999 · 02-05-2006, 11:12 PM

Not just because of the Prince song, but this has always been one of my favorite episodes: (Arnie Parnie). The Father and Son Day episode too. DS got into a good groove with these episodes.

Dean Winchester · 02-05-2006, 11:36 PM

yep, it was nice seeing more Willis and Kimberly storylines whereas the first season was all about Arnold and his precociousness, which was fun but I liked seeing the others getting their storylines instead of just being secondary to Arnold

vashti1999 · 02-06-2006, 02:07 AM

As I think about it more, if it wasn't "I Wanna Be Your Lover" it was "Sexy Dancer," but one of those two Prince songs were played on a DS episode, and I'm pretty sure this was the one

Dean Winchester · 02-06-2006, 02:20 AM

who would be the one to okay the usage? Prince or Warner Bros.? I know the Golden Girls episode where Sophia sings along to Purple Rain made it to the DVD with no troubles.

actually, the fact that DS was using Prince songs in 1979 showed it was quite ahead of its time

vashti1999 · 02-08-2006, 03:57 PM

As least the "Guess Who" episode seems to be intact. You can hear both "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" and "Off The Wall" from Michael Jackson playing during this episode. I guess maybe Mike needed the money???

TVFactFan · 02-08-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by vashti1999

As least the "Guess Who" episode seems to be intact. You can hear both "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" and "Off The Wall" from Michael Jackson playing during this episode. I guess maybe Mike needed the money???

So are you saying on the DVD they were not dancing to the Prince song?

TVFactFan · 02-08-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vashti1999

A music rights issue. I might be mistaken, but I could swear this was the episode where Prince's "I Wanna Be Your Lover" played when Willis dances with Lurlene. That instrumental mess they're dancing to on the dvd definitely wasn't part of the original broadcast. Can anyone who recorded this episode from tv confirm this?

yes that's the song they were dancing too on my uncut version from Comcast. I just didn;t know who sung the song when I watched the episode.

vashti1999 · 02-08-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TVResearcher

yes that's the song they were dancing too on my uncut version from Comcast. I just didn;t know who sung the song when I watched the episode.

Thank you for confirming that. Yeah, the song on the dvd is not what was originally used in that episode, they changed it. I remembered a Prince song and I was pretty sure this was the episode but I wasn't 100% positive.

Dean Winchester · 02-08-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vashti1999

As least the "Guess Who" episode seems to be intact. You can hear both "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" and "Off The Wall" from Michael Jackson playing during this episode. I guess maybe Mike needed the money???

Michael probably was "well, Arnold and Willis were both pretty young then... you can use the music for free"

vashti1999 · 02-08-2006, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HUNG UP!

Michael probably was "well, Arnold and Willis were both pretty young then... you can use the music for free"

That's what got him into the mess he's in now in the first place.

As for Prince, I think it's him who control publishing rights as opposed to Warner. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who kept the song from being included on the dvd. It would be cool if he wasn't that controlling and let the few seconds worth of his song appear on the dvd.

TVFactFan · 02-08-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by vashti1999

That's what got him into the mess he's in now in the first place.

As for Prince, I think it's him who control publishing rights as opposed to Warner. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who kept the song from being included on the dvd. It would be cool if he was that controlling and let the few seconds worth of his song appear on the dvd.

Now you have me curious about what they were dancing to on the DVD instead of the Prince Song-lol

vashti1999 · 02-08-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TVResearcher

Now you have me curious about what they were dancing to on the DVD instead of the Prince Song-lol

It's just some weird instrumental music, just heavy beats. Even if I was wrong about the Prince song, I knew when this music started playing that it was something that wasn't originally in that episode. That same scene is included on the Valentine's flashback episode, and it's the same instrumental music. So they replaced the music on both The Rivals episode and the Valentine's flashback episode.

Dean Winchester · 02-08-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vashti1999

That's what got him into the mess he's in now in the first place.

As for Prince, I think it's him who control publishing rights as opposed to Warner. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who kept the song from being included on the dvd. It would be cool if he was that controlling and let the few seconds worth of his song appear on the dvd.

it's still strange that they had no issue with Golden Girls season 1 on DVD where Sophia sings along to Purple Rain on her headset yet his music on DS season 2 wasn't used. Was it because Golden Girls is a bigger hit in reruns, therefore Buena Vista was willing to pay more to clear it than Sony could?

02-05-2006, 10:47 PM	#1
vashti1999 NY METS - #1 Forum Fanatic Join Date: Oct 14, 2003 Location: The world's greatest city - New York City Posts: 11,404	"The Rivals" episode edited on the dvd A music rights issue. I might be mistaken, but I could swear this was the episode where Prince's "I Wanna Be Your Lover" played when Willis dances with Lurlene. That instrumental mess they're dancing to on the dvd definitely wasn't part of the original broadcast. Can anyone who recorded this episode from tv confirm this?
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02-05-2006, 11:05 PM	#2
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	I haven't gotten that far yet, but what a shame!! The Rivals is one of the best season 2 episodes IMO, plus, it aired the week I was born

02-05-2006, 11:12 PM	#3
vashti1999 NY METS - #1 Forum Fanatic Join Date: Oct 14, 2003 Location: The world's greatest city - New York City Posts: 11,404	Not just because of the Prince song, but this has always been one of my favorite episodes: (Arnie Parnie). The Father and Son Day episode too. DS got into a good groove with these episodes.

02-05-2006, 11:36 PM	#4
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	yep, it was nice seeing more Willis and Kimberly storylines whereas the first season was all about Arnold and his precociousness, which was fun but I liked seeing the others getting their storylines instead of just being secondary to Arnold

02-06-2006, 02:07 AM	#5
vashti1999 NY METS - #1 Forum Fanatic Join Date: Oct 14, 2003 Location: The world's greatest city - New York City Posts: 11,404	As I think about it more, if it wasn't "I Wanna Be Your Lover" it was "Sexy Dancer," but one of those two Prince songs were played on a DS episode, and I'm pretty sure this was the one

02-06-2006, 02:20 AM	#6
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	who would be the one to okay the usage? Prince or Warner Bros.? I know the Golden Girls episode where Sophia sings along to Purple Rain made it to the DVD with no troubles. actually, the fact that DS was using Prince songs in 1979 showed it was quite ahead of its time

02-08-2006, 03:57 PM	#7
vashti1999 NY METS - #1 Forum Fanatic Join Date: Oct 14, 2003 Location: The world's greatest city - New York City Posts: 11,404	As least the "Guess Who" episode seems to be intact. You can hear both "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" and "Off The Wall" from Michael Jackson playing during this episode. I guess maybe Mike needed the money???