Kelly Clarkson Won't Let 'Idol' Use Her Songs - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Karen* · 01-18-2006, 06:44 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060118/...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

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PASADENA, Calif. - Singer Kelly Clarkson, who vaulted to fame as the first "American Idol" winner in 2002, is not letting any of her songs be used by new contestants on the show.

A spokesman for Clarkson insisted it's nothing personal, but the stance prompted a public scolding from "American Idol" judge Simon Cowell.

"I think that by ignoring the show you're ignoring the audience who put you there," Cowell said Tuesday.

Clarkson has become a major star in the past year, with her hit "Since U Been Gone" earning both massive sales and critical respect, particularly from a rock community that has looked upon "American Idol" contestants warily. Her album "Breakaway" earned a Grammy nomination for best pop vocal album.

Yet it may have cost her a good relationship with the nation's most popular talent show.

"American Idol" must obtain permission from owners of song licenses before the music can be used on the show. While many love the exposure, some artists — the Beatles, for one — like to rigidly control use of their music.

Clarkson is not allowing any of her songs to be licensed for other uses, said Roger Widynowski, a spokesman for Sony BMG. "It has nothing to do with `Idol,' " he said.

The show's executive producer, Nigel Lythgoe, said he requested songs to be used on this year's show. He said he's not even sure Clarkson herself is aware of the situation.

Before "Breakaway," Clarkson fired Simon Fuller, the "American Idol" creator, as her manager, saying that although he is a "great guy," she needed someone who could give her career more attention. She teamed with Swedish hitmaker Max Martin on "Since U Been Gone."

It's the same delicate position faced by countless other musicians through show biz history, wanting to break away and show artistic independence without alienating those who gave them their start.

Cowell said he hoped Clarkson would let her music be used on "American Idol."

"No matter how talented Kelly Clarkson is, she would not be in the position she's in now without winning this show," he said. "And forget the way she feels about us or the producers or anybody else, or the terrible songwriters she alleges she was with which sold her millions of records.

"It's the public who bothered to pick up the phone to vote for her," he said. "If she refuses to give songs to be used on the show, it's like saying to every person who voted for you, `you know what? Thank you. I'm not interested in you anymore.'"

With the seemingly unquenchable public interest in "American Idol," it's not like the show really needs Clarkson. But she's plainly the best example producers can point to as proof that they can open the door to wish fulfillment.

Sony's Widynowski said he would not comment on Cowell's remarks.

Clarkson, in an interview with The Associated Press last year, said she knows she'll always be identified as an "American Idol," and she has no problems with that.

"That's where I got my start," she said. "They always talk about the big first thing that you did. I think the only thing that I do mind is I don't want people to only focus on that."

For his part, Cowell said, "I don't like this, when they walk away from the show and kind of forget."

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT JUST A MINUTE HERE!! Forget what Cowell or Kelly Clarkson said in this article...Didn't 'Idol' just show someone singing Since U Been Gone last night? I totally saw that! Ooooohhhhh...I smell a lawsuit coming along!! o_0

TJL · 01-18-2006, 06:54 PM

In a way, I guess it's sort of a slap in the face towards "Ameircan Idol."
After all, Kelly wouldn't be where she is today wothout them.

Anyway, why would a contestant want to sing a song that Kelly sang last year? Seems like overkill to me.

Karen* · 01-18-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TJL

In a way, I guess it's sort of a slap in the face towards "Ameircan Idol."
After all, Kelly wouldn't be where she is today wothout them.

Anyway, why would a contestant want to sing a song that Kelly sang last year? Seems like overkill to me.

I couldn't agree more.

EmoJoe · 01-18-2006, 07:33 PM

we dont even know if this was kelly's desicion though. it could have been her management.

and the SUBG thing caused the controversy, apparently...it was used without permission

a lot of people on idf say they've lost respect for kelly and will no longer by her albums. i think they need to get over it -_-

theshark8777 · 01-18-2006, 09:51 PM

So much for remembering where you came from I guess.

EmoJoe · 01-18-2006, 10:40 PM

its been reported that its a money issue. not a kelly-hate-AI-and-wishes-death-upon-them-issue. of course, the news is gonna drag her out to make her look like the next Satan and ignore the truth

so i guess Kelly isnt a biatch who wants AI to die after all?...

David · 01-18-2006, 11:44 PM

Someone on IDF posted an official article saying that it's a big misunderstanding. Kelly doesn't mind Idol using her songs, it's just a financial agreement they need to get fixed. I can't find the specific article, because I totally forgot where on IDF I saw it, but it said that "Kelly was happy to see 'SUBG' on Tuesday night".

Karen* · 01-19-2006, 12:56 AM

Someone is lying. o_0

Chelsea · 01-19-2006, 02:12 AM

The contestants in the auditions can sing whatever they like. There's various copyright legislations that cover the situation. But in the actual talent portion of the season, they can't.

PrettyinPink55 · 01-19-2006, 02:15 AM

Hmmm...I don't want to believe this....

theshark8777 · 01-19-2006, 07:40 AM

PASADENA, California (AP) -- Former "American Idol" winner Kelly Clarkson, subject to a scolding from Simon Cowell for not letting her songs be used by new contestants on the show, has agreed to do so, a spokesman says.

Roger Widynowski, from Clarkson's Sony BMG record label, said Wednesday that Clarkson's management was negotiating with the show over which songs will be used.

A day earlier, he said Clarkson was not allowing any of her songs to be licensed for other purposes. He said on Wednesday that he had not been informed by her management that negotiations were under way, and that Clarkson would allow it on a "case-by-case basis."

That was also a day after "American Idol" judge Cowell sharply criticized her.

"I think that by ignoring the show you're ignoring the audience who put you there," Cowell said Tuesday.

Clarkson has become a major star in the past year, with her hit "Since U Been Gone" earning both massive sales and critical respect, particularly from a rock community that has looked upon "American Idol" contestants warily. Her album "Breakaway" earned a Grammy nomination for best pop vocal album.

"American Idol" must obtain permission from owners of song licenses before the music can be used on the show. While many love the exposure, some artists -- the Beatles, for one -- like to rigidly control use of their music.

Clarkson, in an interview with The Associated Press last year, said she knows she'll always be identified as an "American Idol," and she has no problems with that.

"That's where I got my start," she said. "They always talk about the big first thing that you did. I think the only thing that I do mind is I don't want people to only focus on that."

Rachel3118 · 01-19-2006, 11:29 AM

I don't see why someone would dislike Kelly because of the article. The whole issue doesn't seem like that big of a deal. It seems like more of something her manager (or someone like that) wanted her to do or something she had to do finnancially. It also just doesn't seem like a big deal if she doesn't want people useing her music.

Sterling Holobyte · 01-19-2006, 11:55 AM

That seems like kind of a dense thing to do anyway. I mean, if they didn't let them use the songs, in a couple years time when nobody knows who she is anymore, she/her management will wish they let them use the songs for publicity's sake.

EmoJoe · 01-19-2006, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sterling Holobyte

That seems like kind of a dense thing to do anyway. I mean, if they didn't let them use the songs, in a couple years time when nobody knows who she is anymore, she/her management will wish they let them use the songs for publicity's sake.

she never was gonna ban the songs. it was some stupid money thing the media made a big deal over.

¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ · 01-19-2006, 04:57 PM

Well before the 2nd article came out, I was already on Kellys side. For her 'fans' to stop buying her albums because of that arent really fans and need to get over it. They dont know what really goes on behind the scenes, etc. If I were Kelly I wouldnt have let them use my songs either, since they werent there for her when she needed them anyways. Plus, no one can sing a Kelly song better than Kelly herself.

01-18-2006, 06:54 PM	#2
TJL Suburbanite Extrordinaire Forum Star Join Date: Dec 29, 2001 Location: New Jersey - the cradle of civilization Posts: 16,588	In a way, I guess it's sort of a slap in the face towards "Ameircan Idol." After all, Kelly wouldn't be where she is today wothout them. Anyway, why would a contestant want to sing a song that Kelly sang last year? Seems like overkill to me.
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01-18-2006, 07:33 PM	#4
EmoJoe Cool cool cool Forum Addict Join Date: Apr 23, 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 71,478	we dont even know if this was kelly's desicion though. it could have been her management. and the SUBG thing caused the controversy, apparently...it was used without permission a lot of people on idf say they've lost respect for kelly and will no longer by her albums. i think they need to get over it -_-
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01-18-2006, 09:51 PM	#5
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01-18-2006, 11:44 PM	#7
David mcphee. Forum Superstar Join Date: Jan 30, 2003 Location: jacksonville, FL. Posts: 28,115	Someone on IDF posted an official article saying that it's a big misunderstanding. Kelly doesn't mind Idol using her songs, it's just a financial agreement they need to get fixed. I can't find the specific article, because I totally forgot where on IDF I saw it, but it said that "Kelly was happy to see 'SUBG' on Tuesday night".
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Chelsea Semi-retired Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 07, 2001 Location: Washington Posts: 5,727	The contestants in the auditions can sing whatever they like. There's various copyright legislations that cover the situation. But in the actual talent portion of the season, they can't.
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01-18-2006, 10:40 PM	#6
EmoJoe Cool cool cool Forum Addict Join Date: Apr 23, 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 71,478	its been reported that its a money issue. not a kelly-hate-AI-and-wishes-death-upon-them-issue. of course, the news is gonna drag her out to make her look like the next Satan and ignore the truth so i guess Kelly isnt a biatch who wants AI to die after all?...

01-19-2006, 12:56 AM	#8
Karen* paradox. Forum Superstar Join Date: Jan 08, 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 28,365	Someone is lying. o_0

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01-19-2006, 07:40 AM	#11
theshark8777 Hats for Bats Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 23, 2001 Location: northeast Ohio. Posts: 5,315	Clarkson relents, will let 'Idol' use her songs PASADENA, California (AP) -- Former "American Idol" winner Kelly Clarkson, subject to a scolding from Simon Cowell for not letting her songs be used by new contestants on the show, has agreed to do so, a spokesman says. Roger Widynowski, from Clarkson's Sony BMG record label, said Wednesday that Clarkson's management was negotiating with the show over which songs will be used. A day earlier, he said Clarkson was not allowing any of her songs to be licensed for other purposes. He said on Wednesday that he had not been informed by her management that negotiations were under way, and that Clarkson would allow it on a "case-by-case basis." That was also a day after "American Idol" judge Cowell sharply criticized her. "I think that by ignoring the show you're ignoring the audience who put you there," Cowell said Tuesday. Clarkson has become a major star in the past year, with her hit "Since U Been Gone" earning both massive sales and critical respect, particularly from a rock community that has looked upon "American Idol" contestants warily. Her album "Breakaway" earned a Grammy nomination for best pop vocal album. "American Idol" must obtain permission from owners of song licenses before the music can be used on the show. While many love the exposure, some artists -- the Beatles, for one -- like to rigidly control use of their music. Clarkson, in an interview with The Associated Press last year, said she knows she'll always be identified as an "American Idol," and she has no problems with that. "That's where I got my start," she said. "They always talk about the big first thing that you did. I think the only thing that I do mind is I don't want people to only focus on that."

01-19-2006, 11:29 AM	#12
Rachel3118 Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 13, 2005 Posts: 1,768	I don't see why someone would dislike Kelly because of the article. The whole issue doesn't seem like that big of a deal. It seems like more of something her manager (or someone like that) wanted her to do or something she had to do finnancially. It also just doesn't seem like a big deal if she doesn't want people useing her music.
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Sterling Holobyte Harper House Senior Member Join Date: Nov 07, 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,896	That seems like kind of a dense thing to do anyway. I mean, if they didn't let them use the songs, in a couple years time when nobody knows who she is anymore, she/her management will wish they let them use the songs for publicity's sake.
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01-19-2006, 04:57 PM	#15
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ MISS APRIL Forum Addict Join Date: Jul 19, 2001 Location: Parsonsfield ME Shaws - Screwing my way up the employment ladder! Posts: 68,780	Well before the 2nd article came out, I was already on Kellys side. For her 'fans' to stop buying her albums because of that arent really fans and need to get over it. They dont know what really goes on behind the scenes, etc. If I were Kelly I wouldnt have let them use my songs either, since they werent there for her when she needed them anyways. Plus, no one can sing a Kelly song better than Kelly herself.
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