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ddelta · 01-13-2006, 12:28 PM

Here are some of mine:

The George Smith case in CT. HE was the honeymooner who disappeared on the cruise. His wife was found sleeping in a hallway and there was blood on the side of the boat. They don't know if he was murdered or fell off his balcony in a drunken stupor.

The murder of those two sweethearts I believe in Oregan who were sleeping on the beach. They think it was a random shooting and that they did not know the person who shot them.

RightOnDude · 01-13-2006, 12:37 PM

obviously, Natalee Holloway ... I would just like to see their re-enactment and take on it.

nohwheregirl · 01-13-2006, 01:53 PM

There have been a series of unexplained deaths and missing persons cases involving young male college students or young adult males in Minnesota and Wisconsin along (or in) the Mississippi River.

The scenario is eerily similar in many of the cases. These guys go out for a night of drinking with their friends. At some point in the night, the young men disappear without notifying their friends they are leaving, or leave the bar area and never return home. Some of the young men are missing and some of their bodies have turned up in the Mississippi River. The deaths were ruled as accidental drownings related to intoxication, even though in at least one case, no water was found in the lungs. There has been an outcry in the local communities (such as La Crosse, WI) that there is a serial killer in the area preying on young men, but police scoff at that possibility. They see the cases as cautionary tales about binge drinking.

Here are some websites:

http://www.vanceholmes.com/court/tri..._students.html

http://www.stuffmagazine.com/articles/index.aspx?id=817

Kane · 01-13-2006, 02:08 PM

It's an old case, but I would have to say the disappearance of a woman named Virginia C. Douglas. She was a resident of Lexington, MA (not too far from where I live), who disappeared in September of 1988.

Her husband, Frank Douglas Sr., claimed that he and Virginia went on a trip to Maine during the Labor Day Weekend. They arrived at a shopping mall in Belfast, ME, so that Virginia could use the restroom. However, Frank's story didn't appear to make any sense. For example, Frank was asked why he stopped at a mall to let Virginia use the restroom when he could have gone to a nearby McDonald's restaurant. He said it was because she preferred department store restrooms. Also, no one at the mall in question could verify having seen Virginia there.

Frank Douglas died in 2003. Although he denied having any involvement in Virginia's disappearance, some of his loved ones believe otherwise.

For those of you who are curious about the case, here's the profile of Virginia Douglas:

http://charleyproject.org/cases/d/douglas_virginia.html

kamy · 05-25-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane

It's an old case, but I would have to say the disappearance of a woman named Virginia C. Douglas. She was a resident of Lexington, MA (not too far from where I live), who disappeared in September of 1988.

Her husband, Frank Douglas Sr., claimed that he and Virginia went on a trip to Maine during the Labor Day Weekend. They arrived at a shopping mall in Belfast, ME, so that Virginia could use the restroom. However, Frank's story didn't appear to make any sense. For example, Frank was asked why he stopped at a mall to let Virginia use the restroom when he could have gone to a nearby McDonald's restaurant. He said it was because she preferred department store restrooms. Also, no one at the mall in question could verify having seen Virginia there.

Frank Douglas died in 2003. Although he denied having any involvement in Virginia's disappearance, some of his loved ones believe otherwise.

For those of you who are curious about the case, here's the profile of Virginia Douglas:

http://charleyproject.org/cases/d/douglas_virginia.html

That is terrible, he screams guilty. And it's sad to know that she may never be found and even if she did "run off" she would more than likely be dead. Very sad case, thanks for sharing.

Thiussat · 05-26-2007, 06:19 PM

The Smith case is interesting, but I think that what happened is obvious.

Several witnesses came forward, who were partying with the couple on that night, and said that while in the elevator going back up to the Smith's room, one of those Russian men starting groping on Smith's wife who was also quite intoxicated. It was also reported by a witness that she was in one of the men's room alone without Smith. The order in which the elevator thing and the room thing occurred, I can't remember.

It is speculated that Smith figured out what had happened, a fight ensued, they ganged up on him and threw him overboard. Smith was a big guy, was drunk, and probably got pissed that they were hitting on his wife. Since he was drunk, he probably just tore into them without much thought that he was outnumbered.

The question in this case, as far as I can tell, is what did Smith's wife know about it. Did she see it? Did she have sexual relations with one of the men prior to the fight? I get the strong impression that her story of being "too drunk to remember" may just be a way for her to avoid this whole mess.

freshwater · 05-29-2007, 01:27 PM

A recent possible amnesia case in Milwaukee. (I work for the same company as he does/did). Gotta love the amnesia cases.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3003279&page=1

nohwheregirl · 05-29-2007, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by freshwater

A recent possible amnesia case in Milwaukee. (I work for the same company as he does/did). Gotta love the amnesia cases.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3003279&page=1

Is this the guy who has a huge picture on a billboard near downtown Milwaukee on I-94? I saw that when I was in Milwaukee last month and remember thinking how sad it was and that man didn't look like someone who just up and left his family. I hope they get some leads on him fast!

*U think u Know* · 05-29-2007, 06:57 PM

The Cindy James case was one that really interested me

Kane · 05-29-2007, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kamy

That is terrible, he screams guilty. And it's sad to know that she may never be found and even if she did "run off" she would more than likely be dead. Very sad case, thanks for sharing.

You're very welcome. I stand by my belief that the Virginia Douglas case would have been a good story for UM.

I didn't mention this before, but during the summer of 1996, the Boston Globe did a weekly feature on unsolved cases in Massachusetts and the general vicinity of New England. Among those cases was the disappearance of Virginia Douglas. In the article (titled "Is She Missing - or Dead?"), Frank and Virginia's daughter, Marilyn Wilson, expressed her belief that Virginia was murdered, and that the killer would get off scot-free. But for legal reasons, she couldn't publicly say who the perpetrator might be. So the article implied that Frank Douglas Sr. wasn't the only suspect in the case.

I don't believe that Virginia Douglas ran off. Not only do I suspect that she was murdered, but I also believe it's very possible that Frank jettisoned her body sometime during the trip from Lexington, Massachusetts to Belfast, Maine. He may very well have hidden her body in an area where no one would have thought to search for it. This could explain why Virginia was never found in or near the Douglas residence. But of course, this is just speculation on my part.

freshwater · 05-30-2007, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by nohwheregirl

Is this the guy who has a huge picture on a billboard near downtown Milwaukee on I-94? I saw that when I was in Milwaukee last month and remember thinking how sad it was and that man didn't look like someone who just up and left his family. I hope they get some leads on him fast!

Yes. That's the guy.

DarkDante · 05-31-2007, 04:54 PM

Much like Kane, my choice for a new UM would be something old indeed. I would love to see them do a "Final Appeal" segment with Walter Ogrod who is on death row for the murder of Barbara Jean Horn in the summer of 88 I believe. UM did a very brief profile of the case in the autumn of 1988, which was more like a "Special Alert" as it didn't include any re-enactments.

Many people believe Walter Ogrod is innocent and his confession was manufactured.

While I'm at it, I'd also love to see a "Final Appeal" segment on Beaver Tempest who was convicted of the 1982 murder of Doreen Picard. Again there is some doubt that he was the murderer.

justins5256 · 05-31-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkDante

Much like Kane, my choice for a new UM would be something old indeed. I would love to see them do a "Final Appeal" segment with Walter Ogrod who is on death row for the murder of Barbara Jean Horn in the summer of 88 I believe. UM did a very brief profile of the case in the autumn of 1988, which was more like a "Special Alert" as it didn't include any re-enactments.

Many people believe Walter Ogrod is innocent and his confession was manufactured.

While I'm at it, I'd also love to see a "Final Appeal" segment on Beaver Tempest who was convicted of the 1982 murder of Doreen Picard. Again there is some doubt that he was the murderer.

A "Final Appeal" for Dave Davis would be interesting as well.

LooksLikeCRicci · 06-01-2007, 02:29 AM

Dave Davis? Isn't he the guy that was convicted of killing his newylwed wife, Shannon? If that's the case, I thought the conviction in that case was pretty solid. Were there new developments that I don't know about?

freshwater · 06-01-2007, 01:13 PM

I received a bogus "rolling through a stop sign" ticket back in 1996 that I would like to see profiled as a Final Appeal.

01-13-2006, 12:28 PM	#1
ddelta Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 07, 2003 Posts: 218	If UM ever came back what current cases would you like to see on it?? Here are some of mine: The George Smith case in CT. HE was the honeymooner who disappeared on the cruise. His wife was found sleeping in a hallway and there was blood on the side of the boat. They don't know if he was murdered or fell off his balcony in a drunken stupor. The murder of those two sweethearts I believe in Oregan who were sleeping on the beach. They think it was a random shooting and that they did not know the person who shot them.

01-13-2006, 01:53 PM	#3
nohwheregirl THE Mystery Machine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 23, 2004 Posts: 1,057	Missing/murdered young men? There have been a series of unexplained deaths and missing persons cases involving young male college students or young adult males in Minnesota and Wisconsin along (or in) the Mississippi River. The scenario is eerily similar in many of the cases. These guys go out for a night of drinking with their friends. At some point in the night, the young men disappear without notifying their friends they are leaving, or leave the bar area and never return home. Some of the young men are missing and some of their bodies have turned up in the Mississippi River. The deaths were ruled as accidental drownings related to intoxication, even though in at least one case, no water was found in the lungs. There has been an outcry in the local communities (such as La Crosse, WI) that there is a serial killer in the area preying on young men, but police scoff at that possibility. They see the cases as cautionary tales about binge drinking. Here are some websites: http://www.vanceholmes.com/court/tri..._students.html http://www.stuffmagazine.com/articles/index.aspx?id=817

01-13-2006, 02:08 PM	#4
Kane Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 07, 2001 Location: MA, United States Posts: 3,367	It's an old case, but I would have to say the disappearance of a woman named Virginia C. Douglas. She was a resident of Lexington, MA (not too far from where I live), who disappeared in September of 1988. Her husband, Frank Douglas Sr., claimed that he and Virginia went on a trip to Maine during the Labor Day Weekend. They arrived at a shopping mall in Belfast, ME, so that Virginia could use the restroom. However, Frank's story didn't appear to make any sense. For example, Frank was asked why he stopped at a mall to let Virginia use the restroom when he could have gone to a nearby McDonald's restaurant. He said it was because she preferred department store restrooms. Also, no one at the mall in question could verify having seen Virginia there. Frank Douglas died in 2003. Although he denied having any involvement in Virginia's disappearance, some of his loved ones believe otherwise. For those of you who are curious about the case, here's the profile of Virginia Douglas: http://charleyproject.org/cases/d/douglas_virginia.html
	Last edited by Kane; 01-16-2006 at 05:23 PM.

01-13-2006, 12:37 PM	#2
RightOnDude Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 12, 2005 Posts: 266	obviously, Natalee Holloway ... I would just like to see their re-enactment and take on it.

05-26-2007, 06:19 PM	#6
Thiussat Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 09, 2007 Posts: 601	The Smith case is interesting, but I think that what happened is obvious. Several witnesses came forward, who were partying with the couple on that night, and said that while in the elevator going back up to the Smith's room, one of those Russian men starting groping on Smith's wife who was also quite intoxicated. It was also reported by a witness that she was in one of the men's room alone without Smith. The order in which the elevator thing and the room thing occurred, I can't remember. It is speculated that Smith figured out what had happened, a fight ensued, they ganged up on him and threw him overboard. Smith was a big guy, was drunk, and probably got pissed that they were hitting on his wife. Since he was drunk, he probably just tore into them without much thought that he was outnumbered. The question in this case, as far as I can tell, is what did Smith's wife know about it. Did she see it? Did she have sexual relations with one of the men prior to the fight? I get the strong impression that her story of being "too drunk to remember" may just be a way for her to avoid this whole mess.

05-29-2007, 01:27 PM	#7
freshwater Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 10, 2007 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 84	A recent possible amnesia case in Milwaukee. (I work for the same company as he does/did). Gotta love the amnesia cases. http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3003279&page=1

05-29-2007, 06:57 PM	#9
U think u Know Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 29, 2007 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 8	The Cindy James case was one that really interested me

05-31-2007, 04:54 PM	#12
DarkDante Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 27, 2002 Posts: 1,569	Much like Kane, my choice for a new UM would be something old indeed. I would love to see them do a "Final Appeal" segment with Walter Ogrod who is on death row for the murder of Barbara Jean Horn in the summer of 88 I believe. UM did a very brief profile of the case in the autumn of 1988, which was more like a "Special Alert" as it didn't include any re-enactments. Many people believe Walter Ogrod is innocent and his confession was manufactured. While I'm at it, I'd also love to see a "Final Appeal" segment on Beaver Tempest who was convicted of the 1982 murder of Doreen Picard. Again there is some doubt that he was the murderer.

06-01-2007, 02:29 AM	#14
LooksLikeCRicci Likes to live in a clean house Moderator Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 4,050	Dave Davis? Isn't he the guy that was convicted of killing his newylwed wife, Shannon? If that's the case, I thought the conviction in that case was pretty solid. Were there new developments that I don't know about?

06-01-2007, 01:13 PM	#15
freshwater Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 10, 2007 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 84	I received a bogus "rolling through a stop sign" ticket back in 1996 that I would like to see profiled as a Final Appeal.