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TosaTillie · 01-10-2006, 04:12 PM

Hi - I'm not sure if anyone has reported on the solution to the death of the banker named Dan Short (tied to a chair and thrown into a river or lake), and since I'm new to this website, I don't know how to search for past information about this case. Anyway, it's on FBI Files right now on the Discovery Channel. Unfortunately,I don't think they will repeat this episode today, but I will watch for it in the future. BTW if you read this before 1:30 or 1:45 you can still turn it on and see who they arrested etc.

Kane · 01-10-2006, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TosaTillie

Hi - I'm not sure if anyone has reported on the solution to the death of the banker named Dan Short (tied to a chair and thrown into a river or lake), and since I'm new to this website, I don't know how to search for past information about this case. Anyway, it's on FBI Files right now on the Discovery Channel. Unfortunately,I don't think they will repeat this episode today, but I will watch for it in the future. BTW if you read this before 1:30 or 1:45 you can still turn it on and see who they arrested etc.

Dan Short's murder has also been featured in the Forensic Files episode "Stick 'Em Up."

I'm aware that Shannon Agosfsky and his brother Joseph were arrested, tried, and convicted in the case. They are both doing life sentences. In 2004, Shannon was convicted and sentenced to death in the 2001 murder of a prison inmate. The FBI Files episode doesn't mention that part, only because the prison murder occurred after the episode was filmed.

kadrmas15 · 08-31-2006, 10:19 PM

Well according to the federal bureau of prisons the Agofsky brothers are both serving life without parole sentences in the federal prison system. Shannon Agofsky is now 35 and is currently in the Federal Prison in Florence, Colorado. Agofsky is in that same super max prison as the Unabomber, Eric Rudolph, Richard Reid, Zacharias Moussaoi, Terry Nichols, Michael Swango and others. Joseph Agofsky is now 40 and is in a federal prison in Florida. Joseph Agofsky was actually nearly acquitted in his first trial, the vote was 10 to 2 to acquitt so a mistrial was declared.

Awsi Dooger · 09-01-2006, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kadrmas15

Well according to the federal bureau of prisons the Agofsky brothers are both serving life without parole sentences in the federal prison system. Shannon Agofsky is now 35 and is currently in the Federal Prison in Florence, Colorado. Agofsky is in that same super max prison as the Unabomber, Eric Rudolph, Richard Reid, Zacharias Moussaoi, Terry Nichols, Michael Swango and others. Joseph Agofsky is now 40 and is in a federal prison in Florida. Joseph Agofsky was actually nearly acquitted in his first trial, the vote was 10 to 2 to acquitt so a mistrial was declared.

Wow. That's an impressive lineup.

Who would you pick to emerge from a scuffle in that group? I'd have to isolate Richard Reid. They said he displayed the strength of many men when he was being taken down after trying to light the shoe bomb.

Not exactly the intelligence of many men, considering he could have gone to the lavatory and done it without interruption. I've always wondered if the authorities would have been able to trace the cause, if Reid had done it that way.

Pericles · 12-03-2007, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kadrmas15

Well according to the federal bureau of prisons the Agofsky brothers are both serving life without parole sentences in the federal prison system. Shannon Agofsky is now 35 and is currently in the Federal Prison in Florence, Colorado. Agofsky is in that same super max prison as the Unabomber, Eric Rudolph, Richard Reid, Zacharias Moussaoi, Terry Nichols, Michael Swango and others. Joseph Agofsky is now 40 and is in a federal prison in Florida. Joseph Agofsky was actually nearly acquitted in his first trial, the vote was 10 to 2 to acquitt so a mistrial was declared.

Shannon Agofsky is currently awaiting execution for the murder of a fellow inmate.

Dan Short was a friend of mine... and a very good man. Possibly the only banker I even met that was a good guy. Helped my wife and I out when we needed it and no other banks would even look at us.

I went to high school with the Agofsky boys. They were scumbags even then. May Shannon rot in hell.

Kane · 03-09-2008, 12:40 PM

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Shannon Agofsky is currently awaiting execution for the murder of a fellow inmate.

Dan Short was a friend of mine... and a very good man. Possibly the only banker I even met that was a good guy. Helped my wife and I out when we needed it and no other banks would even look at us.

I went to high school with the Agofsky boys. They were scumbags even then. May Shannon rot in hell.

Hi, Pericles. I'm truly sorry to learn that you had lost a friend to homicide.

Anyway, I have a question: Did you suspect from the very beginning that the Agofsky brothers were involved in Dan Short's murder?

I ask this because I understand that they were suspected early in the investigation. But my guess is that, with too little evidence to link them to the robbery and murder, they were not publicly named as potential suspects at the time.

Arnold_OldSchool · 09-13-2009, 07:52 PM

So was the motive revenge or $$$?

darkstorm · 06-15-2011, 05:04 PM

Hello,

I grew up in Noel and knew all parties involved, I am writing an article about the history of the Noel bank robbery as it nears 25 years since it happened. I would be interested in interviewing any of Dan's friends. I noticed someone posted here and was interested in interviewing you if you feel able to, please respond. I am now a professional writer living in Honolulu and would appreciate any help I could get if this poster is still active.

Thank you-

killgas20 · 09-08-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold_OldSchool

So was the motive revenge or $$$?

I have often wondered what the motive was as well. Not a lot of details given in the update on UM.

Francium · 06-16-2014, 08:24 PM

The motive was almost certainly bank robbery, but it does done by two low-IQ'd brothers, hence why it looked like an amateur job. Why its motive was seen as not a bank robbery was the execution of Short, which had almost a Mafia-like style. But it makes sense when one realizes the two brothers were just juggalo trashbags who executed him in that manner because (a) it's cool to kill someone that way, and (b) Short would have recognized them anyway.

Hambone2421 · 05-04-2015, 11:10 AM

I had never seen this episode of Unsolved Mysteries prior to watching it for the first time over the weekend. I had seen this case covered on Forensic Files. Obviously there was more information from the FF segment, but this was one of the most unnecessary killings. Was it ever determined if robbery or killing Dan was the main motive?

Hambone2421 · 07-02-2015, 04:11 PM

Per the article listed below, Joseph Agofsky died of natural causes in prison in March 2013.

Shannon Agofsky is still on death row in Terre Haute, In.

http://pa-rocks-ramble.blogspot.com/...in-prison.html

JannTosh · 06-27-2017, 10:52 PM

watched the Forensic Files episode on this. They mentioned that "Two different television programs profiled the case" and showed a little bit of behind the scenes from what looked like UM. Looks like the person that played Short (also interviewed on the FF episode) was a a local journalist.

Janel "Jaycee" Miller · 07-26-2020, 11:55 AM

I watched part of the FBI Files episode earlier today. Towards the end, it sounded like the narrator said "an unidentified accomplice" served as a lookout the night of the crime as they loaded their van before the kidnapping.

But the FBI Files episode is old (gas was barely a dollar in one of the shots). Has the third accomplice ever been identified? If not any thoughts on who it could be? Perhaps the man who turned state's witness?

Kane · 07-28-2020, 12:46 PM

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I watched part of the FBI Files episode earlier today. Towards the end, it sounded like the narrator said "an unidentified accomplice" served as a lookout the night of the crime as they loaded their van before the kidnapping.

But the FBI Files episode is old (gas was barely a dollar in one of the shots). Has the third accomplice ever been identified? If not any thoughts on who it could be? Perhaps the man who turned state's witness?

The FBI Files wouldn't be the only true crime series to make any mention of a potential extra accomplice. I recall the same thing being mentioned on the now-defunct Investigation Discovery series Swamp Murders, whose episode "A Run for the Money" documented the Dan Short case. However, if memory serves, there was no mention of an alleged unknown accomplice on Forensic Files, which featured the murder in the episode "Stick 'Em Up."

01-10-2006, 04:12 PM	#1
TosaTillie Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 08, 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 16	Dan Short Story on FBI files NOW Hi - I'm not sure if anyone has reported on the solution to the death of the banker named Dan Short (tied to a chair and thrown into a river or lake), and since I'm new to this website, I don't know how to search for past information about this case. Anyway, it's on FBI Files right now on the Discovery Channel. Unfortunately,I don't think they will repeat this episode today, but I will watch for it in the future. BTW if you read this before 1:30 or 1:45 you can still turn it on and see who they arrested etc.

06-15-2011, 05:04 PM	#8
darkstorm Member First Time Poster Join Date: Jun 15, 2011 Location: Hawaii Posts: 1	Anyone still post here? Agosky Hello, I grew up in Noel and knew all parties involved, I am writing an article about the history of the Noel bank robbery as it nears 25 years since it happened. I would be interested in interviewing any of Dan's friends. I noticed someone posted here and was interested in interviewing you if you feel able to, please respond. I am now a professional writer living in Honolulu and would appreciate any help I could get if this poster is still active. Thank you-

08-31-2006, 10:19 PM	#3
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well according to the federal bureau of prisons the Agofsky brothers are both serving life without parole sentences in the federal prison system. Shannon Agofsky is now 35 and is currently in the Federal Prison in Florence, Colorado. Agofsky is in that same super max prison as the Unabomber, Eric Rudolph, Richard Reid, Zacharias Moussaoi, Terry Nichols, Michael Swango and others. Joseph Agofsky is now 40 and is in a federal prison in Florida. Joseph Agofsky was actually nearly acquitted in his first trial, the vote was 10 to 2 to acquitt so a mistrial was declared.

09-13-2009, 07:52 PM	#7
Arnold_OldSchool Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 16, 2006 Posts: 681	So was the motive revenge or $$$?

06-16-2014, 08:24 PM	#10
Francium Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 22, 2010 Posts: 43	The motive was almost certainly bank robbery, but it does done by two low-IQ'd brothers, hence why it looked like an amateur job. Why its motive was seen as not a bank robbery was the execution of Short, which had almost a Mafia-like style. But it makes sense when one realizes the two brothers were just juggalo trashbags who executed him in that manner because (a) it's cool to kill someone that way, and (b) Short would have recognized them anyway.

05-04-2015, 11:10 AM	#11
Hambone2421 Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 08, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,067	I had never seen this episode of Unsolved Mysteries prior to watching it for the first time over the weekend. I had seen this case covered on Forensic Files. Obviously there was more information from the FF segment, but this was one of the most unnecessary killings. Was it ever determined if robbery or killing Dan was the main motive?

07-02-2015, 04:11 PM	#12
Hambone2421 Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 08, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,067	Per the article listed below, Joseph Agofsky died of natural causes in prison in March 2013. Shannon Agofsky is still on death row in Terre Haute, In. http://pa-rocks-ramble.blogspot.com/...in-prison.html

06-27-2017, 10:52 PM	#13
JannTosh Member Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 28, 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 585	watched the Forensic Files episode on this. They mentioned that "Two different television programs profiled the case" and showed a little bit of behind the scenes from what looked like UM. Looks like the person that played Short (also interviewed on the FF episode) was a a local journalist.

07-26-2020, 11:55 AM	#14
Janel "Jaycee" Miller Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 19, 2010 Location: South Jersey Posts: 408	I watched part of the FBI Files episode earlier today. Towards the end, it sounded like the narrator said "an unidentified accomplice" served as a lookout the night of the crime as they loaded their van before the kidnapping. But the FBI Files episode is old (gas was barely a dollar in one of the shots). Has the third accomplice ever been identified? If not any thoughts on who it could be? Perhaps the man who turned state's witness?