"Hoodlum Rock;" Missing Ending - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

D-Dey · 07-02-2001, 11:49 AM

One of my favorite episodes was "Hoodlum Rock," which I saw in reruns, and later at the Museum of TV & Radio. The trouble is, I could've swore they had an ending where Howard Hessman & Tim Reid realize their criticism of punk rock is identical to their parents' criticism of rock 'n' roll entirely, and change their tune on it.

Or was that a different sitcom altogether?

horselover47 · 07-02-2001, 12:39 PM

It couldn't have been a different sitcom because Tim Reid and Howard Hesseman didn't work together in another sitcom after WKRP. The ending of "Hoodlum Rock" is the beginning of a fight (which the audience never sees) and then Venus on stage introducing the band (with bandages on his face and hand) and then the band coming onstage with their clothes torn. The next scene is Mr. Carlson and Andy in the dressing room talking about concerts in "their day" and stuffing tissue in their ears. You may be thinking about that scene.

Kathy

jaime_weinman · 07-02-2001, 12:41 PM

I saw a tape from the original CBS broadcast, and there's nothing like that in there. The closest thing to it is the scene where Andy starts criticizing "these kids today," showing that changes in rock music can make even a young guy into an old fuddy-duddy ("What happened to bands like Crosby, Stills and Nash?"). This is a great scene because it establishes that the "hip" Andy and the "square" Mr. Carlson aren't all that different. But there's no scene like the one you described.

D-Dey · 07-03-2001, 01:34 PM

It must've been a totally different sitcom, with two other actors then. There were a lot of punk-bashing episodes of both sitcoms and dramas at the time. Oh, well. Guess I'll ask on the General discussion board.

DetectiveGriffin · 08-04-2001, 04:05 PM

If two full minutes are edited out of each episode in the new syndication package, it is possible that this happened.

jaime_weinman · 08-04-2001, 04:55 PM

No, it didn't happen; I've seen a tape of the original CBS broadcast of this episode, and there's no such scene.

07-02-2001, 11:49 AM	#1
D-Dey Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 11, 2000 Location: Long Island, New York, USA Posts: 5,518	"Hoodlum Rock;" Missing Ending One of my favorite episodes was "Hoodlum Rock," which I saw in reruns, and later at the Museum of TV & Radio. The trouble is, I could've swore they had an ending where Howard Hessman & Tim Reid realize their criticism of punk rock is identical to their parents' criticism of rock 'n' roll entirely, and change their tune on it. Or was that a different sitcom altogether?

07-02-2001, 12:39 PM	#2
horselover47 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 02, 2001 Location: Tennessee USA Posts: 180	It couldn't have been a different sitcom because Tim Reid and Howard Hesseman didn't work together in another sitcom after WKRP. The ending of "Hoodlum Rock" is the beginning of a fight (which the audience never sees) and then Venus on stage introducing the band (with bandages on his face and hand) and then the band coming onstage with their clothes torn. The next scene is Mr. Carlson and Andy in the dressing room talking about concerts in "their day" and stuffing tissue in their ears. You may be thinking about that scene. Kathy

07-02-2001, 12:41 PM	#3
jaime_weinman Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 22, 2000 Posts: 122	I saw a tape from the original CBS broadcast, and there's nothing like that in there. The closest thing to it is the scene where Andy starts criticizing "these kids today," showing that changes in rock music can make even a young guy into an old fuddy-duddy ("What happened to bands like Crosby, Stills and Nash?"). This is a great scene because it establishes that the "hip" Andy and the "square" Mr. Carlson aren't all that different. But there's no scene like the one you described.

07-03-2001, 01:34 PM	#4
D-Dey Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 11, 2000 Location: Long Island, New York, USA Posts: 5,518	It must've been a totally different sitcom, with two other actors then. There were a lot of punk-bashing episodes of both sitcoms and dramas at the time. Oh, well. Guess I'll ask on the General discussion board.

08-04-2001, 04:05 PM	#5
DetectiveGriffin Sankontessou! Senior Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2001 Location: North Central Indiana Posts: 1,288	If two full minutes are edited out of each episode in the new syndication package, it is possible that this happened.

08-04-2001, 04:55 PM	#6
jaime_weinman Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 22, 2000 Posts: 122	No, it didn't happen; I've seen a tape of the original CBS broadcast of this episode, and there's no such scene.