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[Bill S.]

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[Woolworth27]

According Audrey Meadows book Love Alice, my life as a honeymooners, when getting the so called lost episodes together Jackie Gleason, Audrey Meadows and Jackie Gleasons wife sat at his home mami and decided what episodes Jackie Gleason wanted to use and ones he didn't. There are other episodes that are still out there. I hope they bring the tour to Europe 1957 episodes to dvd instead of those color episodes, its not the same with out Audrey Meadows and Joyce Randouph.

[GSTAR]

I've never heard of these shows, other than the "Six Months to Live" and "Stand in for Murder" remakes.

Just my thoughts and guesses. Most likely there are other remakes that we are not aware of. They are either lost, witheld because they duplicate other shows, or poor picture quality. Looking through my Honeymooner guides there are quite a few remaining gaps in the dates between shows over the course of the series run. Who knows? They may come out in the future.

Does the book list the Dumont episodes? Other than the 7 presented by the Disney Channel specials, there are the two Ed Sullivan toast of the town episodes "The Ring" and (dressing for the dance) that I exist. Any others out there? As for the Dumonts that apparently don't exist, mentioned in Honeymooners books in the past: Lost Baby (original version), Six Months to Live (original version), an episode where Ralph, Alice and Ed argue (virtually improvised). I wouldn't doubt that other early CBS shows were remakes of Dumont shows. Anyone else have more info on these?

[GSTAR]

Thanks for the info. Hopefully these shows get the dvd treatment they deserve.

[T-Greg]

Originally Posted by Bill S.

"I think there was one other sketch on the Jack Benny show where Benny played Ralph but that's all I know of. "

Jack Benny did a Honeymooners sketch on his show. He played Ralph with the help of a pillow under his jacket and a toupee. Dennis Day played Norton and Alice was played by Audrey Meadows. Jack had all of the Kramden gestures down pat. It was real funny. There's another won that Red Skelton did on his show. Red played Norton and Peter Lorre played Ralph, the hearse driver.

[Woolworth27]

Do anybody know how to get a hold of the Jack Benny honeymooners skit with, Meadows on there?

[Lexx82]

on the 39 episode box set...are the episodes in order???

soo what was in fact the very first honeymooners episode???? whether it was a half hour show or sketch or wut

[T-Greg]

Originally Posted by Bill S.

Do you know what year that Red Skelton skit was done?

It was 1958. You can order it from Shokus Video. It is one of 3 programs on a VHS tape. See this link below (look under "424 TV Variety, X". It's the 2nd show on the tape)

http://www.rahul.net/cgi-bin/shokus-...R_ID=174436306

[T-Greg]

Originally Posted by Bill S.

The one under "424 TV Variety" is the Jack Benny skit. I'm looking for the Red Skelton one. Here is all I could find:
2. THE RED SKELTON SHOW (1/18/55). Red’s guest is Peter Lorre, and this show features a hilarious “Honeymooners” parody with Peter as Ralph and Red as Norton.
Is that the right one?

Also Greg, can you tell me what The Honeymooners skit listed under "421 TV Variety" is? This is what it says about it:
3. THE HONEYMOONERS (1952). This is a kinescope recorded BEFORE any of the shows in syndication were done. It stars The Great One: Jackie Gleason, of course, as a thinner Ralph Kramden, Art Carney as Ed Norton, and Pert Kelton playing the part of Alice.
Is it just one episode? If so, which one? Thanks.

Yes. That's the Red Skelton skit, with Peter Lorre. If I remember correctly, it runs about 8 minutes. That 1952 Honeymooners is "The Bread" episode, I believe. That's the one where Art plays a cop. The very first Honeymooners. Of course, you already knew that.

[T-Greg]

Yes. Peter Lorre plays Ralph the hearse driver. It fits in with the theme. I don't recall who plays Alice, but I recall she was dressed in black like Elvira or Morticia from the Addams Family. I got my tape of that show off of a Red Skelton videotape. I had so many that I don't recall which one. However, it clearly says on box that his guest is Peter Lorre. I don't remember if "Honeymooners" is referenced on the box though. If I find which tape, I'll let you know.

[Woolworth27]

Do anybody Know the answer?

[T-Greg]

Originally Posted by Woolworth27

Do anybody Know the answer?

If you're talking about where you can get the Jack Benny skit, see my earlier post. I posted a link. You can find it at Shokus Video.

[treky]

I've seen that Jack Benny skit. YEARS ago, I bought a VHS tape with the program on it from some company (I forget the name-but it was a mail order company) Jacks impression of Ralph is HILARIOUS!!!! The way he struts around the room!! And Dennis Day is also good as Norton.