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justins5256 · 12-20-2005, 03:52 PM

OBITUARIES
The Tampa Tribune
August 24, 1996
Estimated printed pages: 3

GLENN FRED CONSAGRA, 56, of Tampa died Wednesday at home. A lifelong resident of Tampa, he was a food service manager and Baptist. He is survived by a son, Brian of Clearwater; a daughter, Debbie of Land O' Lakes; his mother, Eddyth of Tampa; two brothers, Robert A. of Plant City and John-Allen Fertic of Augusta, Ga.; a sister, Dolores Deckard of Lutz; and three grandchildren. A.P. Boza Funeral Home, Town & Country Chapel.

LooksLikeCRicci · 12-20-2005, 04:12 PM

Okay... someone please refresh my memory. Who is this guy?

justins5256 · 12-20-2005, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LooksLikeCRicci

Okay... someone please refresh my memory. Who is this guy?

Glenn Consagra pled guilty to a 1978 double homicide in which two of his best friends were gunned down on a spoilbank near Honeymoon Island in Clearwater, Florida. He was sentenced to two consecutive life terms in prison. He appeared on the third Unsolved Mysteries "special" (the last special Karl Malden hosted before Stack took over), and proclaimed his innocense. Basically, he claimed that he had been framed for the murders and that he pled guilty on the advice of his attorney in a last ditch attempt to save himself from the electric chair. There was a lot of evidence against Consagra, including a couple witnesses who said Consagra had a beef with one of the murder victims. There was at least one witness (a schizophrenic drug user) who claimed others were responsible for the double murder. There were also some facts about the manner in which the crimes were commited that made it seem unlikely that Consagra was the killer. Consagra was paroled in the early nineties, and died in 1996.

The case has been discussed at length on the board before, so you may try a search. The name has been mispelled so you may want to search under "Glen Consagra" instead of "Glenn". Or just type in "Consagra", and you'll find several messages about the case.

george ramos · 02-15-2006, 08:10 PM

I thought he was sentenced to life without parole. Anyway, It's good to know he was released from prison. I always thought he was innocent.

DarkDante · 02-15-2006, 09:30 PM

Yeah I thought Consagra was innocent too. The DA on that case Doug Crow was a moron - I think he said something like "I couldn't fathom why Consagra would have pled guilty to a crime he didn't commit" or something. Well if you were told you had a "1 in 5" chance in winning a murder case and if you lost you would likely die in the electric chair, I would think most people would opt for any plea offered to them. I think Glen was caught between the old rock and a hard place.

justins5256 · 02-15-2006, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkDante

Yeah I thought Consagra was innocent too.

While I believe that Consagra probably didn't pull the trigger, I think he may have been involved, or at a minimum, knew who was. Some of the witness statements against him, as well as the fact that he initially lied to the police are pretty damning facts.

george ramos · 02-16-2006, 02:07 PM

Did the obituary even confrim that the man was the same Glen Consagra that was convicted of two murders? Also did it state what he died of? 56 is pretty young to die.

justins5256 · 02-22-2006, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by george ramos

Did the obituary even confrim that the man was the same Glen Consagra that was convicted of two murders?

Not really. But considering the uncommon name, the Clearwater location, the grandkids (mentioned in the segment), the age he would have been at the time the UM segment was filmed, and the poster who claimed Consagra was in fact released from prison in 1991 or thereabouts and died in 1995 or 1996, I'm pretty sure that its him.

robbieasbury · 03-19-2006, 08:13 AM

Was there an Update of the Glen Consagra case on Unsolved Mysteries or did Robert Stack ever mention it on a lifetime broadcast?

george ramos · 07-21-2006, 07:16 PM

No

marlins3 · 12-18-2007, 09:03 PM

I don't believe Consagra wa sguilty but there are things about this case that bother me somewhat. First off, this guy was acting like a teenager (I'm 27 so I'm not an old person making this comment). The guy (to celebrate the birth of his grandchild) decides to pick up some friends and go to an island and get plastered. It just reminds me of a bunch of high school kids getting together for a party. Also, I agree with the prosecuter that Consagra knew exactly what he was pleading guilty to.

justins5256 · 12-18-2007, 09:38 PM

Some time ago, Kevin Poulson posted a very well thought out synopsis of what probably happened that night. It changed my life. I don't think Consagra was innocent, but he wasn't guilty either.

phillipscurve · 12-18-2007, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by justins5256

Some time ago, Kevin Poulson posted a very well thought out synopsis of what probably happened that night. It changed my life. I don't think Consagra was innocent, but he wasn't guilty either.

Do you think that Consagra was involved in the murders, but didn't pull the trigger himself?. Also, sorry about my ignorance, but I haven't heard about Kevin Poulson before. Who is he? and, What is his connection with Consagra's case?

wiseguy182 · 12-19-2007, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by marlins3

I don't believe Consagra wa sguilty but there are things about this case that bother me somewhat. First off, this guy was acting like a teenager (I'm 27 so I'm not an old person making this comment). The guy (to celebrate the birth of his grandchild) decides to pick up some friends and go to an island and get plastered. It just reminds me of a bunch of high school kids getting together for a party. Also, I agree with the prosecuter that Consagra knew exactly what he was pleading guilty to.

in the segment, Glen said that he plead the way he did because the worse alternative was to be found guilty (which he was) and receive the death penalty. By pleading this way, he can hope that he would be set free one day (which he eventually was). So, he saved his own life.

As far as the other thing goes, I mentioned a little while ago that when anybody becomes a suspect, every single move they make, every single thing they say is going to be scrutinized to the fullest extent. And since Glen was the only person that could be confirmed that was on the spoil bank with the two friends, he is the natural suspect. So, yes, while a grandfather going on a cruise with 2 friends might seem a little bizarre to some, pretty much anything the guy does around the time is going to be scrutnized.

kadrmas15 · 12-19-2007, 01:32 AM

Well, I think people are overlooking that Consagra and the people he hung around with, alcohol and drug use and abuse were a big part of their lives. I mean Consagra and his friends were the type that drank pretty much all day every day so it was their natural state of mind to be intoxicated.

I can see why Consagra pled guilty, he pled guilty to 2 counts of 2nd degree murder so he received two life sentences that were run concurrently to each other, at that time there was no such thing as LWOP so you did become eligible for parole at some point. Consagra knew if he went to trial he would probably be convicted and if he were convicted at trial he stood a good chance of being sentenced to death.

So he pled guilty to the reduced charge of 2nd degree murder so he could become eligible for parole sooner than he would have with a 1st degree murder conviction and he also pled guilty to take the death penalty off the table. I thought the prosecutor Doug Crow came off as a moron, gee Doug, most people innocent or guilty if faced with execution would at least consider pleading guilty to reduced charges to spare their life if they think they stand a good chance of being convicted at trial. Innocent people have pled guilty before to avoid the death penalty, it has happened.

Back in 1978, a life sentence in Florida a majority of the time did not mean that, it was something judges did to look tough on crime but the parole board was rather lenient, as a matter of fact, in Florida, up until the mid 1990's when their parole system was dramatically overhauled it was fairly common for lifers to be paroled, usually on their first or 2nd try.

Parole was abolished in Florida, for 2nd degree murder, if the person was sentenced to life for all crimes committed in 1983 or later. Parole for 1st degree murder was abolished for all crimes committed in 1995 or later. Parole for Capital sexual battery which is molestation of a child under 12 was also abolished for crimes committed in 1995 or later.

In Florida, parole was very common before the mid 1990's as I mentioned, however it especially picked up steam from the late 1980's until the mid 1990's because of severe overcrowding there was mass paroles that occured regularly. Consagra served 13 years of a life sentence for a double homicide, not bad.

However up until the mid 1990's it was fairly easy for lifers to get paroled in Florida, much easier than it would be now where only the cream of the cream of the cream of the crop get paroled that are lifers. Since people that were sentenced to life for first degree murders committed on or before September 30th, 1995 are eligible or 2nd degree murder committed on or before September 30th, 1983 are eligible, soon the number of people doing LWOP will eclipse those who are life with parole eligibilty.

12-20-2005, 03:52 PM	#1
justins5256 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2002 Posts: 3,866	Glenn Consagra OBITUARIES The Tampa Tribune August 24, 1996 Estimated printed pages: 3 GLENN FRED CONSAGRA, 56, of Tampa died Wednesday at home. A lifelong resident of Tampa, he was a food service manager and Baptist. He is survived by a son, Brian of Clearwater; a daughter, Debbie of Land O' Lakes; his mother, Eddyth of Tampa; two brothers, Robert A. of Plant City and John-Allen Fertic of Augusta, Ga.; a sister, Dolores Deckard of Lutz; and three grandchildren. A.P. Boza Funeral Home, Town & Country Chapel.

12-20-2005, 04:12 PM	#2
LooksLikeCRicci Likes to live in a clean house Moderator Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 4,050	Okay... someone please refresh my memory. Who is this guy?

02-15-2006, 08:10 PM	#4
george ramos Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 28, 2005 Posts: 148	I thought he was sentenced to life without parole. Anyway, It's good to know he was released from prison. I always thought he was innocent.

02-15-2006, 09:30 PM	#5
DarkDante Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 27, 2002 Posts: 1,569	Yeah I thought Consagra was innocent too. The DA on that case Doug Crow was a moron - I think he said something like "I couldn't fathom why Consagra would have pled guilty to a crime he didn't commit" or something. Well if you were told you had a "1 in 5" chance in winning a murder case and if you lost you would likely die in the electric chair, I would think most people would opt for any plea offered to them. I think Glen was caught between the old rock and a hard place.

02-16-2006, 02:07 PM	#7
george ramos Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 28, 2005 Posts: 148	Did the obituary even confrim that the man was the same Glen Consagra that was convicted of two murders? Also did it state what he died of? 56 is pretty young to die.

03-19-2006, 08:13 AM	#9
robbieasbury Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 02, 2005 Posts: 200	Was there an Update of the Glen Consagra case on Unsolved Mysteries or did Robert Stack ever mention it on a lifetime broadcast?

07-21-2006, 07:16 PM	#10
george ramos Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 28, 2005 Posts: 148	No

12-18-2007, 09:03 PM	#11
marlins3 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 22, 2007 Posts: 474	I don't believe Consagra wa sguilty but there are things about this case that bother me somewhat. First off, this guy was acting like a teenager (I'm 27 so I'm not an old person making this comment). The guy (to celebrate the birth of his grandchild) decides to pick up some friends and go to an island and get plastered. It just reminds me of a bunch of high school kids getting together for a party. Also, I agree with the prosecuter that Consagra knew exactly what he was pleading guilty to.

12-18-2007, 09:38 PM	#12
justins5256 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2002 Posts: 3,866	Some time ago, Kevin Poulson posted a very well thought out synopsis of what probably happened that night. It changed my life. I don't think Consagra was innocent, but he wasn't guilty either.

12-19-2007, 01:32 AM	#15
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well, I think people are overlooking that Consagra and the people he hung around with, alcohol and drug use and abuse were a big part of their lives. I mean Consagra and his friends were the type that drank pretty much all day every day so it was their natural state of mind to be intoxicated. I can see why Consagra pled guilty, he pled guilty to 2 counts of 2nd degree murder so he received two life sentences that were run concurrently to each other, at that time there was no such thing as LWOP so you did become eligible for parole at some point. Consagra knew if he went to trial he would probably be convicted and if he were convicted at trial he stood a good chance of being sentenced to death. So he pled guilty to the reduced charge of 2nd degree murder so he could become eligible for parole sooner than he would have with a 1st degree murder conviction and he also pled guilty to take the death penalty off the table. I thought the prosecutor Doug Crow came off as a moron, gee Doug, most people innocent or guilty if faced with execution would at least consider pleading guilty to reduced charges to spare their life if they think they stand a good chance of being convicted at trial. Innocent people have pled guilty before to avoid the death penalty, it has happened. Back in 1978, a life sentence in Florida a majority of the time did not mean that, it was something judges did to look tough on crime but the parole board was rather lenient, as a matter of fact, in Florida, up until the mid 1990's when their parole system was dramatically overhauled it was fairly common for lifers to be paroled, usually on their first or 2nd try. Parole was abolished in Florida, for 2nd degree murder, if the person was sentenced to life for all crimes committed in 1983 or later. Parole for 1st degree murder was abolished for all crimes committed in 1995 or later. Parole for Capital sexual battery which is molestation of a child under 12 was also abolished for crimes committed in 1995 or later. In Florida, parole was very common before the mid 1990's as I mentioned, however it especially picked up steam from the late 1980's until the mid 1990's because of severe overcrowding there was mass paroles that occured regularly. Consagra served 13 years of a life sentence for a double homicide, not bad. However up until the mid 1990's it was fairly easy for lifers to get paroled in Florida, much easier than it would be now where only the cream of the cream of the cream of the crop get paroled that are lifers. Since people that were sentenced to life for first degree murders committed on or before September 30th, 1995 are eligible or 2nd degree murder committed on or before September 30th, 1983 are eligible, soon the number of people doing LWOP will eclipse those who are life with parole eligibilty.