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nerrad · 12-09-2005, 08:51 AM

What was the purpose of that bad episode? That was never a sipnoff from it. I believe it was the only show that didn't focus on any of the Brady family and Alice.

Bachu · 12-09-2005, 12:33 PM

Do you mean the episode Kelly's Kids?

A spin off was intended. Look at this episode as the pilot to a show that never got the green light.

nerrad · 12-09-2005, 12:46 PM

That's the one. It did have a spinoff feel to it.

Jack1000 · 12-09-2005, 01:22 PM

Yes,

"Kelly's Kids" was intended to be a Brady Bunch spinoff for a series based on a couple adopting three ethnically diverse children with a bigoted neighbor (named appropriately Mrs. Payne.) I think this idea was largely based on the success of All in the Family. But the network wisley passed on such an idea. The clean conservative "Brady's" were not ones to resort to such controversal issues. Even if they did, they were solved in a half hour. Glad to see that the "Kelly's Kids" idea never got off the ground.

Jack

erin05 · 12-09-2005, 11:21 PM

that was a really boring episode

magellan333 · 12-10-2005, 01:28 AM

A boring episode and the white kid was Mike Lookinland's brother. They looked way too much alike. The first time I saw it, as a child, I thought it was Bobby.

PrettyinPink55 · 12-10-2005, 11:39 AM

I think it would've been cool as a spin-off, but that's just me.

nerrad · 12-12-2005, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by magellan333

A boring episode and the white kid was Mike Lookinland's brother. They looked way too much alike. The first time I saw it, as a child, I thought it was Bobby.

Damn, I never knew that. I guess I never paid much attention to him. I will next time. Which season was that?

snl 70s show fan · 12-13-2005, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by nerrad

Damn, I never knew that. I guess I never paid much attention to him. I will next time. Which season was that?

it was season 5

comedyfreak · 12-14-2005, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyinPink55

I think it would've been cool as a spin-off, but that's just me.

I would've also liked to see the spin-off. I guess America wasn't ready for a mixed family show.

magellan333 · 12-14-2005, 10:13 PM

I've heard this show was eventually made a few years later with Elliot Gould playing the lead and with other kids.

scott_bolger2001 · 12-14-2005, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by magellan333

I've heard this show was eventually made a few years later with Elliot Gould playing the lead and with other kids.

I head the same thing...the show was called "Together We Stand" and according to Sherwood Schwartz, the plot for this show was originally written as a spin-off for "The Brady Bunch" called "Kelly's Kids". The pilot for "Kelly's Kids" was the Kelly's Kids episode.

Internet Movie Database has some information about it at the following link:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090534/

...intresting....

sixfingers · 06-08-2008, 07:24 PM

There are actually three types of spinoffs:

#1 Primary spinoffs
This is where a main or frequently recurring character made for the "parent" series gets their own series. Examples would be Rhoda from Mary Tyler Moore Gomer Pyle from The Andy Griffith show and both The Jeffersons and Maude from All in the family.

#2 Secondary spinoffs
This is where a character made for the parent show appears only once or a limited number of times and winds up with their own show, but it wasn't planned that way, the character was actaully invented for the parent show. The Andy Griffith Show, for example, spawned from a charcter on The Danny Thomas show who was meant to appear in only a single episode but was so well received by the audience that he got his own show.

#3 Launchings
This is where a character appears in the "parent" show for no purpose other than to establish a new show. Mork and Mindy is a good example of that. This isn't always sucessful, examples of failed launchings would include the subject of this thread, Kelly's kids, as well as Gary Seven.

The imminent demise of the parent show, such as in Brady Bunch and Star Trek may play a factor in the failure of the launching to ever get off the ground, but the launching episode is usually shown anyway even if it is already known the new show will never be made.

I would argue that launchings are not really spinoffs, since the character appears only for the purpose of launching a spinoff and really has nothing to do with the original show, but I realize that that is an argument I'm not going to win!

mykel · 07-10-2008, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack1000

"Kelly's Kids" was intended to be a Brady Bunch spinoff for a series based on a couple adopting three ethnically diverse children with a bigoted neighbor (named appropriately Mrs. Payne.) I think this idea was largely based on the success of All in the Family. But the network wisley passed on such an idea. The clean conservative "Brady's" were not ones to resort to such controversal issues. Even if they did, they were solved in a half hour. Glad to see that the "Kelly's Kids" idea never got off the ground.

Jack

Yes, because as we all know, nothing is more controversial than racial diversity and overcoming bigotry.

Tap Dancer · 07-18-2008, 08:44 AM

I hate that episode. It's the only one I skip over every time. I didn't know "Bobby's" brother was one of the kids. Then again, I've only seen that episode a couple of times and that was when I was a child.

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sixfingers John Alan Elson Senior Member Join Date: Feb 22, 2008 Location: Sacramento Posts: 1,491	three kinds of spinoffs There are actually three types of spinoffs: #1 Primary spinoffs This is where a main or frequently recurring character made for the "parent" series gets their own series. Examples would be *Rhoda* from *Mary Tyler Moore* *Gomer Pyle* from *The Andy Griffith show* and both *The Jeffersons* and *Maude* from *All in the family. #2 Secondary spinoffs* This is where a character made for the parent show appears only once or a limited number of times and winds up with their own show, but it wasn't planned that way, the character was actaully invented for the parent show. *The Andy Griffith Show, for example, spawned from a charcter on The Danny Thomas show* who was meant to appear in only a single episode but was so well received by the audience that he got his own show. #3 Launchings This is where a character appears in the "parent" show for no purpose other than to establish a new show. *Mork and Mindy* is a good example of that. This isn't always sucessful, examples of failed launchings would include the subject of this thread, *Kelly's kids, as well as Gary Seven. The imminent demise of the parent show, such as in Brady Bunch* and *Star Trek* may play a factor in the failure of the launching to ever get off the ground, but the launching episode is usually shown anyway even if it is already known the new show will never be made. I would argue that launchings are not really spinoffs, since the character appears only for the purpose of launching a spinoff and really has nothing to do with the original show, but I realize that that is an argument I'm not going to win!

12-09-2005, 08:51 AM	#1
nerrad Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 06, 2003 Location: pfunkytown Posts: 1,253	Dwayne and Steve What was the purpose of that bad episode? That was never a sipnoff from it. I believe it was the only show that didn't focus on any of the Brady family and Alice.

12-09-2005, 12:33 PM	#2
Bachu Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 10, 2005 Posts: 809	Do you mean the episode Kelly's Kids? A spin off was intended. Look at this episode as the pilot to a show that never got the green light.

12-09-2005, 12:46 PM	#3
nerrad Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 06, 2003 Location: pfunkytown Posts: 1,253	That's the one. It did have a spinoff feel to it.

12-09-2005, 01:22 PM	#4
Jack1000 Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 05, 2001 Posts: 2,055	Yes, "Kelly's Kids" was intended to be a Brady Bunch spinoff for a series based on a couple adopting three ethnically diverse children with a bigoted neighbor (named appropriately Mrs. Payne.) I think this idea was largely based on the success of All in the Family. But the network wisley passed on such an idea. The clean conservative "Brady's" were not ones to resort to such controversal issues. Even if they did, they were solved in a half hour. Glad to see that the "Kelly's Kids" idea never got off the ground. Jack

12-10-2005, 01:28 AM	#6
magellan333 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 26, 2003 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 822	A boring episode and the white kid was Mike Lookinland's brother. They looked way too much alike. The first time I saw it, as a child, I thought it was Bobby.

12-14-2005, 10:13 PM	#11
magellan333 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 26, 2003 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 822	I've heard this show was eventually made a few years later with Elliot Gould playing the lead and with other kids.

07-18-2008, 08:44 AM	#15
Tap Dancer Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 20, 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 754	I hate that episode. It's the only one I skip over every time. I didn't know "Bobby's" brother was one of the kids. Then again, I've only seen that episode a couple of times and that was when I was a child.