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Koala · 11-14-2005, 07:48 PM

I never questioned it years ago but I did the research recently. Lana Walker RN of Atascosita, Texas married to Doyle Wayne Walker, daughter - Lisa Jones - (both Lana and Lisa worked at Union Carbide with Mary Morris (and Teresa Washburn Grant) . Lana stated to me that Laurie Gemmell and Katy Morris had appeared before a Grand Jury to testify about the relationship of the Morris couple. However, my research indicates that someone is first charged before there is a grand jury. Question - Is someone trying to snow someone? It is not me.

themaninblack · 11-14-2005, 09:11 PM

will the mary morris saga never end?

freakmagnet · 11-16-2005, 04:40 AM

Greetings from Kelowna!

I'm looking for a break through, too! I think mine will be better.

SP4CE INV4DERZ · 11-16-2005, 06:58 AM

I am curious as to know what sorta break-through do you hope coming here to this message board?

freakmagnet · 11-16-2005, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by missingtiny

I am curious as to know what sorta break-through do you hope coming here to this message board?

What?

SP4CE INV4DERZ · 11-16-2005, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freakmagnet

What?

That wasn't aimed at you; I'm just saying that the Koala guy keeps bringing this stuff here and what does he hope it will prove?

freakmagnet · 11-16-2005, 10:07 AM

Ahhh!

So you too are a Koala sceptic?

Maybe we should talk about why Koala feels the need to keep opening threads on this forum? Or why his last one disappeared? Or how long he thinks this one will last?

Maybe we should talk about why someone whose claim to fame as "angry co-worker" would spend so much time digging around in something when he claims to have no connection?

Koala is an enigma wrapped in a mystery, smothered is secret sauce.

Koala · 11-16-2005, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freakmagnet

Ahhh!

Koala is an enigma wrapped in a mystery, smothered is secret sauce.

I used to be a werewolf but I'm alright nowoooooooooooo!

freakmagnet · 11-16-2005, 12:57 PM

So what happened to your brother?

Koala · 11-16-2005, 01:19 PM

Died December 1988, Changmai area of Thailand. He was a paramedic on days off from Jordan. Things of his were missing like foot wear and some other things when his stuff was returned. My mother was in contact with people from Kelowna whose son also died in Thailand. They were told he drowned in a pool or something like that. They demanded his body be returned intact and his tongue was apparently cut out and bullet holes in his head. My mom did more research and found out the Thais often tried to cover up crimes to save the tourist industry. We opted to have him cremated so it was too late for a Canadian autopsy. He had tickets in his pocket to go on a walking tour the next day. The autopsy report from Changmai indicated he had traces of morphine in his bile. Due to the other reports of cover ups we strongly speculated a possible murder. The other alternative would be a heroin overdose. Our family could never get closure because we did not know what happened and Thailand is too hard to do research on something like this. If you really need to do this you can call my dad in Salmon Arm which is 60 miles away from Kelowna. He is 82 years old and has suffered from the death of his son. I hope you can be tactful enough not to hurt him or just leave it alone. I know full well what it means not to have closure and in some ways that is what strenghthens my resolve. I can't do much more in Mary's death but I know people do not consistently tell lies without a motive.

Koala · 11-16-2005, 02:18 PM

My brothers name is/was Dale Douglas Young. Born June 10th or 11th 1952(always got his birthday mixed up between the 2 dates.) My nephew Ryan Young lives in Kelowna. He was too young to know much about it. But he can turn you on to his dad, Randy Young in Salmon Arm if you are intent on doing research. You could also look up archives in the Kelowna paper about the other family and their obviously murdered son. You may recall a guy named Josh Mcdowell from the early 80s. His research came out of sceptisizm and he wrote a book called More than a Carpenter. I hope your research will lead you down a similar path to truth.

freakmagnet · 11-16-2005, 02:24 PM

I would never hurt your father.

I can't imagine the kind of person it would take - to drag up the painful death of someone outside thier own family, knowing the agony it must cause the people involved who do not have closure, over and over and over again.

Maybe you could help me with an answer to that one?

Koala · 11-16-2005, 03:07 PM

I have thought about it. That is what I have done is caused more grief and anguish for the friends and family of Mary. Some of it is selfish. I just can not stand to have people get away with trying to make me out to do things I did not do. Death threat, notes in computers, and then what I determine must be lies for a reason that don't make sense. The other part is yes, it is painful but if there is something I can do to help, which is worse, trying to find the truth and get closure for everyone (maybe) or risk hurting the family of Mary? I asked Stephanie Loar some very painful questions about Mary. My intention was not to hurt her or others. I had been presented with some hard questions that I needed answered both due in part that I had observed and the fact that Lana Walker had told me that she thought Mary had framed me. I was only searching for the truth and trying to make sense of it all. I still do not have the answers but I am fairly sure now. Mary did not kill herself. Mary probably did not try to frame me. Someone killed her. The lies tell a story. To me, especially after reviewing everything and then finding out there is no grand jury without charges being laid first reinforces my past suspicions without a doubt. There can be no other explanation unless Lana Walker has a very good one. alternate sources - They can always be traced. She has some explaining to do. That is why I have being wanting to find the source of all the crap. The source killed Mary.

Koala · 11-16-2005, 04:10 PM

The pain is still here. Because there was no closure. All of my family have laid awake asking questions, sufferring, trying to get by and wondering. There never is closure. I guess this comes from me these days but I am quite sure it applies to my brothers and my dad. We don't talk about it anymore. I just know what I go through and guess it is the same off and on for the others. I am referring to the death of my brother and friend.

freakmagnet · 11-16-2005, 05:31 PM

That all sounds very righteous of you, Duane, but I have some problems with the picture you're painting.

You were in no way identified except as an "angry co-worker." As near as I can find, you're name didn't appear in the paper or on television as a suspect at all. Your righteous indignation is void because no one knows who the hell you are. All the pain and suffering at the cost of your reputation is untrue.

You take your "story" to the internet to find "closure" for the injustice against you. You tell everyone who you are - your name, your address, your phone number - everything in the world that would keep you anonymous - and you plaster it here along with claims that you are being slandered, when the truth is - you are not.

But now you have your moment of fame, right? Now people know your name. Now you look like some kind of authority on something that happened near you, but you missed it all because you were so involved with your own demons that it passed you by!

So you don't know anything. No one tells you anything. The police don't supply you with your information. People who are actually close to the case have restraining orders against you. The truth is, you frequently don't even have your own "facts" straight. People are lying to you to get you off their backs. Guess what, Duane? No one owes you the truth here. You are a hindrance to a very serious investigation.

I used to think you were involved, but I don't think so anymore. I think you are a sad little man who missed his one chance to be Duane Young and has been reduced in history to "the angry co-worker" title.

As far as Mary's family is concerned, I haven't met them. But if she were my family, I would want you to butt out - or confess. The one thing I know for sure at this point is that you can produce nothing new about this case. You can't tell the lies from the truth.

You have enough compassion to not want me to talk to your father? Not rip the scabs off the wounds of an unsolved mystery in his life and yours? Yet you open this wound for Mary's family constantly.

I just don't get your logic. Maybe it's because there's none there.

11-14-2005, 07:48 PM	#1
Koala Retired - no longer a member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 20, 2003 Posts: 180	Breakthru in Mary McGinnis Morris Murder? I never questioned it years ago but I did the research recently. Lana Walker RN of Atascosita, Texas married to Doyle Wayne Walker, daughter - Lisa Jones - (both Lana and Lisa worked at Union Carbide with Mary Morris (and Teresa Washburn Grant) . Lana stated to me that Laurie Gemmell and Katy Morris had appeared before a Grand Jury to testify about the relationship of the Morris couple. However, my research indicates that someone is first charged before there is a grand jury. Question - Is someone trying to snow someone? It is not me.

11-16-2005, 04:40 AM	#3
freakmagnet Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 18, 2005 Posts: 34	Hi there Duane! Greetings from Kelowna! I'm looking for a break through, too! I think mine will be better.

11-16-2005, 10:07 AM	#7
freakmagnet Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 18, 2005 Posts: 34	Ahhh! So you too are a Koala sceptic? Maybe we should talk about why Koala feels the need to keep opening threads on this forum? Or why his last one disappeared? Or how long he thinks this one will last? Maybe we should talk about why someone whose claim to fame as "angry co-worker" would spend so much time digging around in something when he claims to have no connection? Koala is an enigma wrapped in a mystery, smothered is secret sauce.
	Last edited by freakmagnet; 11-16-2005 at 11:16 AM.

11-16-2005, 02:18 PM	#11
Koala Retired - no longer a member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 20, 2003 Posts: 180	To Freakmagnet My brothers name is/was Dale Douglas Young. Born June 10th or 11th 1952(always got his birthday mixed up between the 2 dates.) My nephew Ryan Young lives in Kelowna. He was too young to know much about it. But he can turn you on to his dad, Randy Young in Salmon Arm if you are intent on doing research. You could also look up archives in the Kelowna paper about the other family and their obviously murdered son. You may recall a guy named Josh Mcdowell from the early 80s. His research came out of sceptisizm and he wrote a book called More than a Carpenter. I hope your research will lead you down a similar path to truth.

11-16-2005, 05:31 PM	#15
freakmagnet Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 18, 2005 Posts: 34	That all sounds very righteous of you, Duane, but I have some problems with the picture you're painting. You were in no way identified except as an "angry co-worker." As near as I can find, you're name didn't appear in the paper or on television as a suspect at all. Your righteous indignation is void because no one knows who the hell you are. All the pain and suffering at the cost of your reputation is untrue. You take your "story" to the internet to find "closure" for the injustice against you. You tell everyone who you are - your name, your address, your phone number - everything in the world that would keep you anonymous - and you plaster it here along with claims that you are being slandered, when the truth is - you are not. But now you have your moment of fame, right? Now people know your name. Now you look like some kind of authority on something that happened near you, but you missed it all because you were so involved with your own demons that it passed you by! So you don't know anything. No one tells you anything. The police don't supply you with your information. People who are actually close to the case have restraining orders against you. The truth is, you frequently don't even have your own "facts" straight. People are lying to you to get you off their backs. Guess what, Duane? No one owes you the truth here. You are a hindrance to a very serious investigation. I used to think you were involved, but I don't think so anymore. I think you are a sad little man who missed his one chance to be Duane Young and has been reduced in history to "the angry co-worker" title. As far as Mary's family is concerned, I haven't met them. But if she were my family, I would want you to butt out - or confess. The one thing I know for sure at this point is that you can produce nothing new about this case. You can't tell the lies from the truth. You have enough compassion to not want me to talk to your father? Not rip the scabs off the wounds of an unsolved mystery in his life and yours? Yet you open this wound for Mary's family constantly. I just don't get your logic. Maybe it's because there's none there.
	Last edited by freakmagnet; 11-16-2005 at 07:36 PM.

11-14-2005, 09:11 PM	#2
themaninblack Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 573	will the mary morris saga never end?

11-16-2005, 06:58 AM	#4
SP4CE INV4DERZ 40-0 0WN3D Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 06, 2004 Posts: 630	I am curious as to know what sorta break-through do you hope coming here to this message board?

11-16-2005, 12:57 PM	#9
freakmagnet Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 18, 2005 Posts: 34	So what happened to your brother?

11-16-2005, 01:19 PM	#10
Koala Retired - no longer a member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 20, 2003 Posts: 180	Died December 1988, Changmai area of Thailand. He was a paramedic on days off from Jordan. Things of his were missing like foot wear and some other things when his stuff was returned. My mother was in contact with people from Kelowna whose son also died in Thailand. They were told he drowned in a pool or something like that. They demanded his body be returned intact and his tongue was apparently cut out and bullet holes in his head. My mom did more research and found out the Thais often tried to cover up crimes to save the tourist industry. We opted to have him cremated so it was too late for a Canadian autopsy. He had tickets in his pocket to go on a walking tour the next day. The autopsy report from Changmai indicated he had traces of morphine in his bile. Due to the other reports of cover ups we strongly speculated a possible murder. The other alternative would be a heroin overdose. Our family could never get closure because we did not know what happened and Thailand is too hard to do research on something like this. If you really need to do this you can call my dad in Salmon Arm which is 60 miles away from Kelowna. He is 82 years old and has suffered from the death of his son. I hope you can be tactful enough not to hurt him or just leave it alone. I know full well what it means not to have closure and in some ways that is what strenghthens my resolve. I can't do much more in Mary's death but I know people do not consistently tell lies without a motive.

11-16-2005, 02:24 PM	#12
freakmagnet Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 18, 2005 Posts: 34	I would never hurt your father. I can't imagine the kind of person it would take - to drag up the painful death of someone outside thier own family, knowing the agony it must cause the people involved who do not have closure, over and over and over again. Maybe you could help me with an answer to that one?

11-16-2005, 03:07 PM	#13
Koala Retired - no longer a member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 20, 2003 Posts: 180	I have thought about it. That is what I have done is caused more grief and anguish for the friends and family of Mary. Some of it is selfish. I just can not stand to have people get away with trying to make me out to do things I did not do. Death threat, notes in computers, and then what I determine must be lies for a reason that don't make sense. The other part is yes, it is painful but if there is something I can do to help, which is worse, trying to find the truth and get closure for everyone (maybe) or risk hurting the family of Mary? I asked Stephanie Loar some very painful questions about Mary. My intention was not to hurt her or others. I had been presented with some hard questions that I needed answered both due in part that I had observed and the fact that Lana Walker had told me that she thought Mary had framed me. I was only searching for the truth and trying to make sense of it all. I still do not have the answers but I am fairly sure now. Mary did not kill herself. Mary probably did not try to frame me. Someone killed her. The lies tell a story. To me, especially after reviewing everything and then finding out there is no grand jury without charges being laid first reinforces my past suspicions without a doubt. There can be no other explanation unless Lana Walker has a very good one. alternate sources - They can always be traced. She has some explaining to do. That is why I have being wanting to find the source of all the crap. The source killed Mary.

11-16-2005, 04:10 PM	#14
Koala Retired - no longer a member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 20, 2003 Posts: 180	The pain is still here. Because there was no closure. All of my family have laid awake asking questions, sufferring, trying to get by and wondering. There never is closure. I guess this comes from me these days but I am quite sure it applies to my brothers and my dad. We don't talk about it anymore. I just know what I go through and guess it is the same off and on for the others. I am referring to the death of my brother and friend.