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bloodtoughgms1 · 11-11-2005, 12:11 PM

they never mentioned the real person who started rock and roll on the show, it's not elvis it's AL JOLSON. Al Jolson was shaking his hips while singing in the jazz singer and elvis copied that when he went on the ed sullivan show. Al Jolson made the song are you lonesome tonight and originated putting feelings and emotions into songs without jolson the whole foundation of rock and roll would of never started. Al Jolson was the greatest entertainer and singer

robyrob · 11-11-2005, 12:47 PM

they never actually claimed it was Elvis (or anyone else) on the show.

gilligan fanatic · 11-12-2005, 01:26 PM

Al Jolson was from the 20's and 30's and Happy Days takes place in the 50's and 60's

Fonzarelli · 11-14-2005, 09:20 PM

Can you *really* point at someone, just one person, and say: "Look, HE started rock 'n roll"? I don't think so..

wayne · 11-15-2005, 10:18 PM

Who actually did the elvis voice on HD?

robyrob · 11-16-2005, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayne

Who actually did the elvis voice on HD?

probably Al Jolson

Rich3 · 11-17-2005, 08:51 AM

Wrong!

Al Jolson was easy listening. He influenced pop music like Frank Sinatra, Barbara Streisand, Johnny Mathis, Dean Martin, Celine Dion, etc.

Rock and roll was influenced by blues, R&B, gospel, county, folk. The influential artists were like Robert Johnson, Leadbelly, Hank Williams, Fats Dominoe, Bill Monroe, etc.

Rich3 · 11-17-2005, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robyrob

probably Al Jolson

The end credits listed Fats Domino, The Everly Brothers, and Anson Williams. Yes, Potsie.

Potsie provided the vocals for Elvis Presley and Bobby Darin (Splish Splash).

Al Jolson died in 1950. He was definitely the first megastar, so perhaps he did influence the mania of rock and roll. It's kind of strange that you don't hear more about him these days. He was HUGE in his day. My favorite song of his was called "Sonny Boy."

anglemark10 · 11-17-2005, 11:08 AM

The Everly Brothers were never listed in the closing credits. Those who were are (at one point or another):

Anson Williams
Bill Haley and The Comets
Connie Francis
Donny Most
Fats Domino
Ike Cole
Johnnie Ray
Kay Starr
Les Paul and Mary Ford
Teresa Brewer

gilligan fanatic · 11-17-2005, 11:56 AM

I never knew Anson Williams did Elvis and Bobby Darrin. Cool

robyrob · 11-17-2005, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anglemark10

The Everly Brothers were never listed in the closing credits. Those who were are (at one point or another):

Anson Williams
Bill Haley and The Comets
Connie Francis
Donny Most
Fats Domino
Ike Cole
Johnnie Ray
Kay Starr
Les Paul and Mary Ford
Teresa Brewer

...and yet they tell us that the music licensing rights for the DVD's are costing them BILLIONS of dollars

anglemark10 · 11-17-2005, 11:53 PM

Well, there were other songs that were used from artists other than those listed. I'm not sure exactly why these particular artists are on the list and others aren't. If it helps any, the heading they appear under is "Recording Artists Contributing to the Series."

Also, I realize Anson Williams sang the Presley and Darrin songs when the band played them on the show, but I'm not so sure about the ones heard on the jukebox. I suppose it's possible he did Presley's vocals but not Darrin's (definitely not on "Splish Splash").

Rich3 · 11-18-2005, 08:41 AM

I know Anson did Presley's vocals sometimes, as heard on the Arnold's jukebox.

You never heard many of the rock and roll giants like Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, or Jerry Lee Lewis, on the show. Just Fats Domino and Bill Hailey. That wasn't realistic.

11-11-2005, 12:11 PM	#1
bloodtoughgms1 Member Forum Hawk Join Date: Nov 11, 2005 Posts: 3	I don't understand they never mentioned the real person who started rock and roll on the show, it's not elvis it's AL JOLSON. Al Jolson was shaking his hips while singing in the jazz singer and elvis copied that when he went on the ed sullivan show. Al Jolson made the song are you lonesome tonight and originated putting feelings and emotions into songs without jolson the whole foundation of rock and roll would of never started. Al Jolson was the greatest entertainer and singer

11-11-2005, 12:47 PM	#2
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11-12-2005, 01:26 PM	#3
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11-14-2005, 09:20 PM	#4
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11-17-2005, 08:51 AM	#7
Rich3 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 10, 2005 Posts: 691	Wrong! Al Jolson was easy listening. He influenced pop music like Frank Sinatra, Barbara Streisand, Johnny Mathis, Dean Martin, Celine Dion, etc. Rock and roll was influenced by blues, R&B, gospel, county, folk. The influential artists were like Robert Johnson, Leadbelly, Hank Williams, Fats Dominoe, Bill Monroe, etc.

11-17-2005, 11:08 AM	#9
anglemark10 Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 06, 2004 Location: United States Posts: 787	The Everly Brothers were never listed in the closing credits. Those who were are (at one point or another): Anson Williams Bill Haley and The Comets Connie Francis Donny Most Fats Domino Ike Cole Johnnie Ray Kay Starr Les Paul and Mary Ford Teresa Brewer

11-17-2005, 11:56 AM	#10
gilligan fanatic Born to Be Bad Forum Fanatic Join Date: May 06, 2001 Location: down by the Lagoon Posts: 9,954	I never knew Anson Williams did Elvis and Bobby Darrin. Cool

11-17-2005, 11:53 PM	#12
anglemark10 Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 06, 2004 Location: United States Posts: 787	Well, there were other songs that were used from artists other than those listed. I'm not sure exactly why these particular artists are on the list and others aren't. If it helps any, the heading they appear under is "Recording Artists Contributing to the Series." Also, I realize Anson Williams sang the Presley and Darrin songs when the band played them on the show, but I'm not so sure about the ones heard on the jukebox. I suppose it's possible he did Presley's vocals but not Darrin's (definitely not on "Splish Splash").

11-18-2005, 08:41 AM	#13
Rich3 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 10, 2005 Posts: 691	I know Anson did Presley's vocals sometimes, as heard on the Arnold's jukebox. You never heard many of the rock and roll giants like Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, or Jerry Lee Lewis, on the show. Just Fats Domino and Bill Hailey. That wasn't realistic.