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starlight22 · 10-29-2005, 07:16 PM

I think the episode that changed the storyline of the Friends series the most drastically was the one where Rachel refuses to forgive Ross for cheating on her. I mean for the next seven seasons you still here Ross yelling over and over again to the point where it gets annoying, “We were on a break!” I mean this is one fight that sticks with these people forever. Even though this episode is one of the most important ones it was one of my least favorite. At the beginning you just wanna kill Ross for being such a jerk and deciding not to tell Rachel that he cheated on her. What kind of jackass actually follows “the trail.” Then as Ross and Rachel really get into this fight you wanna tell Ross not to be so freakin pathetic and stop begging Rachel to take him back. He actually gets on his knees and holds on to her legs. Seriously… could he be ore pathetic?!? Thank God for the little bit of comic relief that Joey, Chandler, Monica, and Phoebe provide while they are stuck in Monica’s room. I love the friends series, but this fight is just dragged on and on. It almost gets boring. Rachel could have just said I will never forgive you and Ross could say oh that sucks and saved me 30 min. of my life. Does anything like this ever really happen in Manhattan. No guy would ever really beg like that and if someone did they have no self-respect. So, Ross and Rachel aren’t getting back together and hopefully I will never have to see such a depressing Friends episode ever again.

Fonzarelli · 10-30-2005, 06:23 PM

I never thought it was pathetic that Ross begged Rachel to take her back. You must keep in mind that Ross ahs been in love with her since high school. He had to watch her having one boyfriend after another (remember Paolo?). Then he does something stupid (sometimes people do stupid things, especially when they're drunk and/or depressed, like Ross) and therefore he begs Rachel to forgive him. The only thing he did wrong was sticking with the 'we were on a break'-reason. Him following the trail was one of the funny things in this otherwise sad episode ('sad' as in: sad for the characters), with at the end Ross facing Gunther and asking him if he told his little secret. Of course Gunther did!

I was glad that the next episode skipped attention from Rachel and Ross to Chandler ('The one without a ski trip'). Instead of focusing on the ones who broke up -what is what you would expect- we see how Chandler reacts on it. In that episode, we get to see a big part of who the 'real' Chandler is, underneath all his wisecracking comments and sarcastic humour. Chandler had his best lines in that episode.

DukeDevils9192 · 10-31-2005, 06:46 PM

Seriously, if you think Ross begging was showing a lack of self-respect then you just don't understand the character. Rachel was EVERYTHING to him and he threw it all away in a jealous rage. He wasn't going to just brush it off.

The episode isn't one of the funniest but it's a crucial, powerful episode. The fact that the writers showed they were able to craft such an emotional storyline when they were known for comedy showed how great they really were.

DOOLgal · 12-22-2005, 05:07 PM

that episode confirmed hating gunther

Rachel3118 · 01-01-2006, 11:56 PM

Him begging showed how much he really cared about her. I think people would do the same thing if they were really in love with someone. I don't think it made him pathitic. It did make him loss some self-respect but it was worth it.

In a way I don't like this episode because it's sad but it's still a good episode. I like how there is jokes made about this until the series finally.

I loved the episode "The One Without A Skitrip". Their fighting is really funny in that episode.

ChanandMon · 07-14-2006, 10:05 AM

I love this episode, it marks the end of the nausia that was R/R forever. And it confirms my love for Gunther.

Rachel3118 · 07-26-2006, 10:44 PM

I think it starts the annoying part of their relationship where they always almost get back together but things never work out. They need to just forget about this fight.

10-29-2005, 07:16 PM	#1
starlight22 Member First Time Poster Join Date: Oct 28, 2005 Posts: 1	when rachel wont forgive ross I think the episode that changed the storyline of the Friends series the most drastically was the one where Rachel refuses to forgive Ross for cheating on her. I mean for the next seven seasons you still here Ross yelling over and over again to the point where it gets annoying, “We were on a break!” I mean this is one fight that sticks with these people forever. Even though this episode is one of the most important ones it was one of my least favorite. At the beginning you just wanna kill Ross for being such a jerk and deciding not to tell Rachel that he cheated on her. What kind of jackass actually follows “the trail.” Then as Ross and Rachel really get into this fight you wanna tell Ross not to be so freakin pathetic and stop begging Rachel to take him back. He actually gets on his knees and holds on to her legs. Seriously… could he be ore pathetic?!? Thank God for the little bit of comic relief that Joey, Chandler, Monica, and Phoebe provide while they are stuck in Monica’s room. I love the friends series, but this fight is just dragged on and on. It almost gets boring. Rachel could have just said I will never forgive you and Ross could say oh that sucks and saved me 30 min. of my life. Does anything like this ever really happen in Manhattan. No guy would ever really beg like that and if someone did they have no self-respect. So, Ross and Rachel aren’t getting back together and hopefully I will never have to see such a depressing Friends episode ever again.

10-30-2005, 06:23 PM	#2
Fonzarelli Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 19, 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,996	I never thought it was pathetic that Ross begged Rachel to take her back. You must keep in mind that Ross ahs been in love with her since high school. He had to watch her having one boyfriend after another (remember Paolo?). Then he does something stupid (sometimes people do stupid things, especially when they're drunk and/or depressed, like Ross) and therefore he begs Rachel to forgive him. The only thing he did wrong was sticking with the 'we were on a break'-reason. Him following the trail was one of the funny things in this otherwise sad episode ('sad' as in: sad for the characters), with at the end Ross facing Gunther and asking him if he told his little secret. Of course Gunther did! I was glad that the next episode skipped attention from Rachel and Ross to Chandler ('The one without a ski trip'). Instead of focusing on the ones who broke up -what is what you would expect- we see how Chandler reacts on it. In that episode, we get to see a big part of who the 'real' Chandler is, underneath all his wisecracking comments and sarcastic humour. Chandler had his best lines in that episode.
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12-22-2005, 05:07 PM	#4
DOOLgal bryan dattillo/lucas Forum Hawk Join Date: Dec 22, 2005 Location: Terre Haute, IN Posts: 4	that episode confirmed hating gunther
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01-01-2006, 11:56 PM	#5
Rachel3118 Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 13, 2005 Posts: 1,768	Him begging showed how much he really cared about her. I think people would do the same thing if they were really in love with someone. I don't think it made him pathitic. It did make him loss some self-respect but it was worth it. In a way I don't like this episode because it's sad but it's still a good episode. I like how there is jokes made about this until the series finally. I loved the episode "The One Without A Skitrip". Their fighting is really funny in that episode.
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10-31-2005, 06:46 PM	#3
DukeDevils9192 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 22, 2004 Posts: 287	Seriously, if you think Ross begging was showing a lack of self-respect then you just don't understand the character. Rachel was EVERYTHING to him and he threw it all away in a jealous rage. He wasn't going to just brush it off. The episode isn't one of the funniest but it's a crucial, powerful episode. The fact that the writers showed they were able to craft such an emotional storyline when they were known for comedy showed how great they really were.

07-14-2006, 10:05 AM	#6
ChanandMon Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 11, 2006 Posts: 139	I love this episode, it marks the end of the nausia that was R/R forever. And it confirms my love for Gunther.

07-26-2006, 10:44 PM	#7
Rachel3118 Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 13, 2005 Posts: 1,768	I think it starts the annoying part of their relationship where they always almost get back together but things never work out. They need to just forget about this fight.