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Liza · 11-27-2001, 01:50 PM

I'm a little confused. So the episodes with Hayley Mills were actually from a show called GOOD MORNING MISS BLISS? So I guess that after that show ended they took some of the same characters and made SAVED BY THE BELL?

How come Lisa, Zack, Screech, and Mr. Belding all were at a junior highschool in Indiana and were transported to California for high school? So, I'm a little confused. Anyone want to help me out?

ThomasE · 11-28-2001, 11:06 AM

Well Haley Mills decided to leave and then NBC wanted to bring some more life into it so they made a lot of changes. If you notice, the set was still the same.

hch · 11-30-2001, 03:59 PM

Good Morning, Miss Bliss was originally conceived as a vehicle for Hayley Mills, a popular actress who had done many previous movies for Disney. Mills played the character of a widowed junior high school teacher,
Miss Carrie Bliss, and the show was mostly about her experiences as a teacher. The setting for the show was John F. Kennedy Junior High School in Indianapolis, Indiana. For the remainder of GMMB's run, Zack, Screech, Lisa and Principal Richard Belding were the other main characters in the show. However, there were still other characters (e.g. Nikki, Mikey, Tina and
Milo) in the show who were never in later seasons of the Saved by the Bell show. Also, the focus of the show was Miss Bliss
first, and basically Zack Morris second. The show was produced by Peter Engel, and William F. Phillips was the Executive in Charge of Production. After the move to NBC, some of the GMMB episodes were rerun on NBC in the summer after the Grade 9 season along with an introduction by Zack explaining that this was what happened to him "in junior high". In any case, it is the absence of Kelly and Jessie and Slater, and the setting of the school in Indianapolis that account for the most glaring continuity lapse of the Saved by the Bell series. There were 13 episodes made of Good Morning, Miss Bliss, but Disney decided not to continue with the project. So it
appears Producer Peter Engel, William F. Phillips, et al. took the show back to NBC which then decided to pick up the project again, as its first live action show for NBC's Saturday morning line up. Major changes were made for the show's second incarnation. First the name of the show was changed to Saved by the Bell. The setting was changed from JFK, Junior High School in Indianapolis, IN to Bayside High School in Pacific Palisades, CA. The characters of Zack Morris, Screech Powers, Lisa Turtle and Principal Richard Belding were kept for the show, and three new main characters were added: Kelly Kapowski , Jessie Spano and new transfer student, A.C. Slater. The focus of the show changed to Zack Morris, and to a lesser extent his friend Screech. But this introduces the first continuity questions. How is it that three students and a principal can move 2000 miles between junior high and high school and still stay together in the same school? Why does Zack tell Slater in the first episode of Grade 9 that he's been after Kelly for the previous "2 years (and 6 boyfriends)" when no mention is made of her in Good Morning Miss Bliss? Why is no mention made of Zack's friends from Miss Bliss; and why is no mention made of Zack's "friend since the first grade" Jessie in GMMB? Why is it said in GMMB that Zack's father and mother are divorced when they clearly are not divorced in SbtB? Why is mention made of Screech having a brother in GMMB, when it is
clearly stated that he is an only child in SbtB? What is the explanation? The only explanation for this is that there is no good
explanation. Saved by the Bell is a farce by nature, and its characters and gags were the main focus of the show. Unfortunately that means that the plot and the show's continuity must (and did) take a back seat to character development and to the comedy in the series, especially in its change from Good Morning, Miss Bliss on Disney, to Saved by the Bell on NBC.

ThomasE · 11-30-2001, 04:03 PM

Don't forget on GMMB Zack has a sister as well.

Liza · 12-04-2001, 11:42 PM

In GMMB Zack's dad's name is Peter, in SBTB it's Derek. Something that always bugged me.

USAgent · 12-30-2001, 02:11 AM

Now all that crap makes sense. I've always wondered how they went from indiana to california and why there's different characters. I never had cable until after it moved to nbc.

SBTB Geek · 05-19-2002, 07:59 PM

And Saved By The Bell had many movements.

1987- PILOT (primetime on NBC) (named GMMB)

1988-DISNEY (as GMMB)

1989-NBC (as SBTB) but on prime-time

1989-1991- NBC on Saturday mornings (TNBC)

1991- The Hawaii special was shown on primetime instead of TNBC

1992- many senior episodes were shown on primetime NBC while others were shown on TNBC

1993-1994- last senior episodes and new College Years episodes were shown Tuesday nights on primetime on their regular spot.

So SBTB was mixed around primetime and TNBC. NBC decided to keep the last episodes on primetime because of it's success there.

NBC confused me so much during this time. I was a little 8 year old looking through TV Guide to check if it was going to air on primetime or on TNBC!

Geez, I am so confused.

11-27-2001, 01:50 PM	#1
Liza BestYearsofOurLives Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 24, 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 6,537	Good Morning Miss Bliss I'm a little confused. So the episodes with Hayley Mills were actually from a show called GOOD MORNING MISS BLISS? So I guess that after that show ended they took some of the same characters and made SAVED BY THE BELL? How come Lisa, Zack, Screech, and Mr. Belding all were at a junior highschool in Indiana and were transported to California for high school? So, I'm a little confused. Anyone want to help me out?

12-30-2001, 02:11 AM	#6
USAgent Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Dec 30, 2001 Location: California Posts: 14	I'll be damned! Now all that crap makes sense. I've always wondered how they went from indiana to california and why there's different characters. I never had cable until after it moved to nbc.

11-28-2001, 11:06 AM	#2
ThomasE Member Moderator Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 04, 2000 Location: New York, New York, U.S.A. Posts: 10,857	Well Haley Mills decided to leave and then NBC wanted to bring some more life into it so they made a lot of changes. If you notice, the set was still the same.

11-30-2001, 03:59 PM	#3
hch Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 07, 2001 Location: Montross, VA 22520 Posts: 983	Good Morning, Miss Bliss was originally conceived as a vehicle for Hayley Mills, a popular actress who had done many previous movies for Disney. Mills played the character of a widowed junior high school teacher, Miss Carrie Bliss, and the show was mostly about her experiences as a teacher. The setting for the show was John F. Kennedy Junior High School in Indianapolis, Indiana. For the remainder of GMMB's run, Zack, Screech, Lisa and Principal Richard Belding were the other main characters in the show. However, there were still other characters (e.g. Nikki, Mikey, Tina and Milo) in the show who were never in later seasons of the Saved by the Bell show. Also, the focus of the show was Miss Bliss first, and basically Zack Morris second. The show was produced by Peter Engel, and William F. Phillips was the Executive in Charge of Production. After the move to NBC, some of the GMMB episodes were rerun on NBC in the summer after the Grade 9 season along with an introduction by Zack explaining that this was what happened to him "in junior high". In any case, it is the absence of Kelly and Jessie and Slater, and the setting of the school in Indianapolis that account for the most glaring continuity lapse of the Saved by the Bell series. There were 13 episodes made of Good Morning, Miss Bliss, but Disney decided not to continue with the project. So it appears Producer Peter Engel, William F. Phillips, et al. took the show back to NBC which then decided to pick up the project again, as its first live action show for NBC's Saturday morning line up. Major changes were made for the show's second incarnation. First the name of the show was changed to Saved by the Bell. The setting was changed from JFK, Junior High School in Indianapolis, IN to Bayside High School in Pacific Palisades, CA. The characters of Zack Morris, Screech Powers, Lisa Turtle and Principal Richard Belding were kept for the show, and three new main characters were added: Kelly Kapowski , Jessie Spano and new transfer student, A.C. Slater. The focus of the show changed to Zack Morris, and to a lesser extent his friend Screech. But this introduces the first continuity questions. How is it that three students and a principal can move 2000 miles between junior high and high school and still stay together in the same school? Why does Zack tell Slater in the first episode of Grade 9 that he's been after Kelly for the previous "2 years (and 6 boyfriends)" when no mention is made of her in Good Morning Miss Bliss? Why is no mention made of Zack's friends from Miss Bliss; and why is no mention made of Zack's "friend since the first grade" Jessie in GMMB? Why is it said in GMMB that Zack's father and mother are divorced when they clearly are not divorced in SbtB? Why is mention made of Screech having a brother in GMMB, when it is clearly stated that he is an only child in SbtB? What is the explanation? The only explanation for this is that there is no good explanation. Saved by the Bell is a farce by nature, and its characters and gags were the main focus of the show. Unfortunately that means that the plot and the show's continuity must (and did) take a back seat to character development and to the comedy in the series, especially in its change from Good Morning, Miss Bliss on Disney, to Saved by the Bell on NBC.

11-30-2001, 04:03 PM	#4
ThomasE Member Moderator Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 04, 2000 Location: New York, New York, U.S.A. Posts: 10,857	Don't forget on GMMB Zack has a sister as well.

12-04-2001, 11:42 PM	#5
Liza BestYearsofOurLives Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 24, 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 6,537	In GMMB Zack's dad's name is Peter, in SBTB it's Derek. Something that always bugged me.

05-19-2002, 07:59 PM	#7
SBTB Geek Smooth Moderator Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 21, 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,004	And Saved By The Bell had many movements. 1987- PILOT (primetime on NBC) (named GMMB) 1988-DISNEY (as GMMB) 1989-NBC (as SBTB) but on prime-time 1989-1991- NBC on Saturday mornings (TNBC) 1991- The Hawaii special was shown on primetime instead of TNBC 1992- many senior episodes were shown on primetime NBC while others were shown on TNBC 1993-1994- last senior episodes and new College Years episodes were shown Tuesday nights on primetime on their regular spot. So SBTB was mixed around primetime and TNBC. NBC decided to keep the last episodes on primetime because of it's success there. NBC confused me so much during this time. I was a little 8 year old looking through TV Guide to check if it was going to air on primetime or on TNBC! Geez, I am so confused.