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Cloris Leachman Fan · 09-14-2001, 07:13 PM

This show was horrible! Phyllis was better! Phyllis was funnier, her & Mary were funnier than Mary & Rhoda, and Rhoda's sister was annoying! Her mother was good but the sister I didn't like. Phyllis should have gotten this credit, she deserved it more than Rhoda. Was it because Rhoda was younger that her show lasted or what? Because I seen Rhoda and the only episode I liked is her wedding to Joe. It was funny how Phyllis forgot to pick her up I laughed the intire time Phyllis was on that episode! So what is so special about Rhoda that Phyllis never had?

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callmetootie · 09-14-2001, 07:24 PM

Well...Phyllis was alot better then Rhoda, but it wasn't terrible, as in fact the first season or two were in fact very, very good.

MsLulu · 09-15-2001, 02:33 AM

I love both Rhoda and Phyllis. They're both great characters. Rhoda seemed too insecure and whiny though on the first two seasons of her show. Does that make sense to anyone else?

Christine0079 · 09-16-2001, 12:56 PM

Ahh, Cloris Leachman Fan I just forgave you for what you said about 'Mary and Rhoda'. And now I know exactly why you say things like this. YOU'RE JEALOUS.You're so jealous you can't take it. Most people like Rhoda better than Phyllis and you can't take it. That's ok I understand.

Kristen · 09-16-2001, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by Cloris Leachman Fan:
This show was horrible! Phyllis was better! Phyllis was funnier, her & Mary were funnier than Mary & Rhoda, and Rhoda's sister was annoying! Her mother was good but the sister I didn't like. Phyllis should have gotten this credit, she deserved it more than Rhoda. Was it because Rhoda was younger that her show lasted or what? Because I seen Rhoda and the only episode I liked is her wedding to Joe. It was funny how Phyllis forgot to pick her up I laughed the intire time Phyllis was on that episode! So what is so special about Rhoda that Phyllis never had?

[This message has been edited by Cloris Leachman Fan (edited 09-14-2001).]

First of all, Valerie Harper is incredibly talented, not to metnion sweet!! I met her in person, but that's another story! Rhoda is so much better of a show than Phyllis! If Rhoda sucks so much, why did it run longer than Phyllis did?

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ThomasE · 09-18-2001, 05:50 PM

I'll be honest. It did get kind of boring when the 3rd season started. Joe was only appearing occasionally. I don't know. Maybe Rhoda and Joe together made the show. The setting? I dunno.

Richard · 09-20-2001, 04:29 PM

I,for one,liked Rhoda much better than Phyllis.I never saw Phyllis,by the way.I hadn't liked her that much on MTM.(Ms.Leachman is a very good actress,and the fact that I wasn't crazy about Phyllis kind of proves it.Phyllis was obnoxious after all and Chloris played her very well.)
I loved Brenda.She made the show for me and there were many shows which would've been duds if not for her.I found her charming,in a pathetic sort of way,and have regard for
Julie Kavner.Too bad her best Supporting Actress Emmy came too late in the course of the series.
I am posting this to show how much opinions can be like snowflakes...no two are exaactly the same.

Cloris Leachman Fan · 09-21-2001, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by MtM fan:
Ahh, Cloris Leachman Fan I just forgave you for what you said about 'Mary and Rhoda'. And now I know exactly why you say things like this. YOU'RE JEALOUS.You're so jealous you can't take it. Most people like Rhoda better than Phyllis and you can't take it. That's ok I understand.

Where do you get off accusing me of stuff? I don't understand you? Look please don't accuse me of things because you will regret it ok? Take care and God bless everyone!

Christine0079 · 09-22-2001, 12:24 AM

Look,man, face the facts! You scream jealousy!! If you weren't jealous you wouldn't come on here saying ****ty things about a show people like without a leg to stand on. Come back later when you have a good argument for me so I can make your ass look like a fool again.

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PPatters · 10-26-2001, 09:18 PM

No one is jealous. However, Cloris Leachman Fan, while you're entitled to your opinion, you're opinion is, of course, biased. I mean, I love certain shows that other people hate just becausep people I like appear in those shows. You may not be jealous, but your opinion does look a little shaky, as it is quite obviously biased.

I thought that, certainly, "Phyllis" was better than "Rhoda", though I also thought that "Rhoda" was still very funny.

Jimbo · 10-27-2001, 01:56 PM

Personally, I feel "Rhoda" was a much better show than "Phyllis". I've always liked Cloris Leachman as an actress (she was a scream as "Granny" in the movie version of "The Beverly Hillbillies"). I thought as "Phyllis", she was very good in a supporting role on "Mary Tyler Moore". I don't think, however, that the character was strong enough to build an entire show around. If others prefer "Phyllis" to "Rhoda", that's fine. It's not a question of jealousy, just a matter of personal preference.

09-14-2001, 07:13 PM	#1
Cloris Leachman Fan Facts of Life Lover Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 10, 2001 Posts: 150	This show got to much credit! This show was horrible! Phyllis was better! Phyllis was funnier, her & Mary were funnier than Mary & Rhoda, and Rhoda's sister was annoying! Her mother was good but the sister I didn't like. Phyllis should have gotten this credit, she deserved it more than Rhoda. Was it because Rhoda was younger that her show lasted or what? Because I seen Rhoda and the only episode I liked is her wedding to Joe. It was funny how Phyllis forgot to pick her up I laughed the intire time Phyllis was on that episode! So what is so special about Rhoda that Phyllis never had? [This message has been edited by Cloris Leachman Fan (edited 09-14-2001).]

09-14-2001, 07:24 PM	#2
callmetootie Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 06, 2001 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 4,768	Well...Phyllis was alot better then Rhoda, but it wasn't terrible, as in fact the first season or two were in fact very, very good.

09-15-2001, 02:33 AM	#3
MsLulu Wiggly Mom Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 30, 2001 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 144	I love both Rhoda and Phyllis. They're both great characters. Rhoda seemed too insecure and whiny though on the first two seasons of her show. Does that make sense to anyone else?

09-16-2001, 12:56 PM	#4
Christine0079 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 14, 2001 Location: phila,pa usa Posts: 232	Ahh, Cloris Leachman Fan I just forgave you for what you said about 'Mary and Rhoda'. And now I know exactly why you say things like this. YOU'RE JEALOUS.You're so jealous you can't take it. Most people like Rhoda better than Phyllis and you can't take it. That's ok I understand.

09-18-2001, 05:50 PM	#6
ThomasE Member Moderator Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 04, 2000 Location: New York, New York, U.S.A. Posts: 10,857	I'll be honest. It did get kind of boring when the 3rd season started. Joe was only appearing occasionally. I don't know. Maybe Rhoda and Joe together made the show. The setting? I dunno.

09-20-2001, 04:29 PM	#7
Richard Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 01, 2000 Location: Cleveland,Ohio-USA Posts: 352	I,for one,liked Rhoda much better than Phyllis.I never saw Phyllis,by the way.I hadn't liked her that much on MTM.(Ms.Leachman is a very good actress,and the fact that I wasn't crazy about Phyllis kind of proves it.Phyllis was obnoxious after all and Chloris played her very well.) I loved Brenda.She made the show for me and there were many shows which would've been duds if not for her.I found her charming,in a pathetic sort of way,and have regard for Julie Kavner.Too bad her best Supporting Actress Emmy came too late in the course of the series. I am posting this to show how much opinions can be like snowflakes...no two are exaactly the same.

09-22-2001, 12:24 AM	#9
Christine0079 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 14, 2001 Location: phila,pa usa Posts: 232	Look,man, face the facts! You scream jealousy!! If you weren't jealous you wouldn't come on here saying ****ty things about a show people like without a leg to stand on. Come back later when you have a good argument for me so I can make your ass look like a fool again. [This message has been edited by MtM fan (edited 09-22-2001).]

10-26-2001, 09:18 PM	#10
PPatters Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 27, 2001 Location: Rockford, MI, USA Posts: 404	No one is jealous. However, Cloris Leachman Fan, while you're entitled to your opinion, you're opinion is, of course, biased. I mean, I love certain shows that other people hate just becausep people I like appear in those shows. You may not be jealous, but your opinion does look a little shaky, as it is quite obviously biased. I thought that, certainly, "Phyllis" was better than "Rhoda", though I also thought that "Rhoda" was still very funny.

10-27-2001, 01:56 PM	#11
Jimbo Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 29, 2001 Location: United States of America-One Nation UNDER GOD! Posts: 471	Personally, I feel "Rhoda" was a much better show than "Phyllis". I've always liked Cloris Leachman as an actress (she was a scream as "Granny" in the movie version of "The Beverly Hillbillies"). I thought as "Phyllis", she was very good in a supporting role on "Mary Tyler Moore". I don't think, however, that the character was strong enough to build an entire show around. If others prefer "Phyllis" to "Rhoda", that's fine. It's not a question of jealousy, just a matter of personal preference.