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JOEY1727 · 09-28-2005, 11:19 PM

I WOULD LIKE TO FIND SOME PEOPLE OR GET PEOPLE IN TO TRADING DATA.THIS WOULD BE FOR PEOPLE WHO LIKES TO MAKE THERE ON SET,AND PEOPLE THAT KNOW HOW TO CREATE SETS.IT WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM ALL THE DVDS U USE TO TRADE WITH..OK SAY THE SET ATEAM IS 25 DVDS..IF U TRADED IT AS DATA U WOULD ONLY HAVE 2 OR 3 DVDS TIED UP IN THE TRADE.ANOTHER THING IS WE WOULD HAVE A BUNCH OF DIFFERNT SETS RUNING AROUND.IF WE WOULD DO THAT I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW HOW TO MAKE THEM WOULD HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERNT SETS TO CHOOSE FROM.ITS JUST A THOUGHT.LEAVE FEEDBACK..

neuroslicer · 09-28-2005, 11:52 PM

Thanks for the chuckle Joey! You really had me going.
Neuro

JOEY1727 · 09-29-2005, 12:15 AM

THE ONLY REASON I BRUNG THIS UP WAS,I DID A TRADE WITH SOMEONE AY HAD MORE AND THEY HAD MORE DATA THAN DVD SETS,SO IN A TRADE FOR A SET OF 7 DVDS I GOT 90210 AND JEM COMPLETE..ALL I GOT TO DO IS PUT THEM ON DVD MYSELF AND MAKE MY OWN MENUS..AND SOMETIMES WE MIGHTGET A SHOW THAT WE WOULDNT WANT TO EVEN WAST DVDS ...SO TRADE IT AS DATA..I SAVE ALOT OF MY SHOWS I LIKE ON DATE JUST INCASE THE DVDS GET MESSED UP I CAN GO BACK AND REMAKE THE DISK..LIKE I SAID IT WAS AN IDEL..

loren · 09-29-2005, 11:06 AM

isnt that an awful lot of work to save a few discs

there are lots of ideas out there, i know someone who trades hard drives full of shows, good idea until you figure the postal costs, and the risk of damage

joey, you dont need to reinvent the wheel, blanks are very cheap, and cheap to ship,

wheezer210 · 09-29-2005, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOEY1727

I WOULD LIKE TO FIND SOME PEOPLE OR GET PEOPLE IN TO TRADING DATA.THIS WOULD BE FOR PEOPLE WHO LIKES TO MAKE THERE ON SET,AND PEOPLE THAT KNOW HOW TO CREATE SETS.IT WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM ALL THE DVDS U USE TO TRADE WITH..OK SAY THE SET ATEAM IS 25 DVDS..IF U TRADED IT AS DATA U WOULD ONLY HAVE 2 OR 3 DVDS TIED UP IN THE TRADE.ANOTHER THING IS WE WOULD HAVE A BUNCH OF DIFFERNT SETS RUNING AROUND.IF WE WOULD DO THAT I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW HOW TO MAKE THEM WOULD HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERNT SETS TO CHOOSE FROM.ITS JUST A THOUGHT.LEAVE FEEDBACK..

Umm...I hate to break this to you but no matter how you slice it if you take a 25 disk set and turn it into a 2-3 disk set...it's gonna look like crap. So yes you will have more of a variety but they are going to be ***** quality because half the people in this hobby don't take the time to learn how to do things CORRECTLY and you will end up with a market flooded with DVD sets that are worthless.....so they trade crap for the good stuff and stick to the hard workers that put time and devotion into this hobby. The 7 disk batman set is a perfect example...sellers or some traders rate this an 8-8.5 or even a 9...excuse me? Anyone with common sense would realize you cannot take a series that has 120 episodes and put that onto 7 dvd's and maintain any sort of quality. (unless they are DL dvd but that is WAYYY to expensive.)

This is exaclty why I ask for samples before I commit to any sort of trade with people I don't know....

loren · 09-29-2005, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheezer210

Umm...I hate to break this to you but no matter how you slice it if you take a 25 disk set and turn it into a 2-3 disk set...it's gonna look like crap. So yes you will have more of a variety but they are going to be ***** quality because half the people in this hobby don't take the time to learn how to do things CORRECTLY and you will end up with a market flooded with DVD sets that are worthless.....so they trade crap for the good stuff and stick to the hard workers that put time and devotion into this hobby. The 7 disk batman set is a perfect example...sellers or some traders rate this an 8-8.5 or even a 9...excuse me? Anyone with common sense would realize you cannot take a series that has 120 episodes and put that onto 7 dvd's and maintain any sort of quality. (unless they are DL dvd but that is WAYYY to expensive.)

This is exaclty why I ask for samples before I commit to any sort of trade with people I don't know....

very correct

same with the wonder years 7 disc set

the odd couple 8 disc set

and of course the gomer pyle and chico sets

there are a lot of clunkers being tossed about

Dragonbear · 09-29-2005, 10:30 PM

I think I understand what is being presented. And correct me if
I'm wrong here.

Joey1727: What your basically saying is to take the raw files
(either mpegs or avi files) and then pass them to each other
so that people can create they're own custom sets.

I've done this from time to time if I have 1 or 2 episodes of a series
that someone wants for they're own collection to build they're own
dvd's. To me it's useful for the 1 or 2 episodes but an entire series
would end up being a larger pain.

Mostly the problem would be rating the quality. Some of the MPEGs I've
sent ended up being 1.5 gb of information (I do HD conversion with a3 audio on some of them. So that's going to end up being a large amount of data) so you're still only getting 3 episodes per disc. That converts down to something around 2 episodes of a disc since unless you convert it down
to something much lower. So lets take for instance lost

23 episodes plus the special. so that ends up with a little bit over 30 gb
of data (very roughly muliplied out). you get 4.3 gb roughly per dvd
so you're passing on 8 dvd's give or take. now this is just the rough
files. one of the things about passing the sets along is the convenience
of not having to take the time to convert to a .vob format and then
burn your own dvd (minimum 2 hours on some programs depending on
what you use). So there you've burnt the original 8 discs that can't
be reused (we'll leave out dvd r/w for this demo) and then you end up having
to burn another 7 discs for the actual set. So you've doubled you're disc
output and your time output all in the matter of convience.

It's a good theoretical idea. but for practically it ends up getting shot
in the foot. mostly cause of the time distribution and the added disc
costs (and I have a large aversion to just throwing out discs cause it's a
one time use).

JOEY1727 · 09-29-2005, 10:52 PM

I WAS LOOKING AT IT.THAT MAYBE WE WOULD GET BETTER SETS WITH GREA MENUS THAT WAY,BUT NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT,WASTE OF TIME.JUST THINKING OUT LOUD,,I;M LEAVING THAT THOUGHT ALONE..

Dragonbear · 09-30-2005, 01:22 AM

It's a good idea on paper. but it just doesn't work in practicality.

Still, with the creation of Divx players some people would be interested in this
at somepoint.

09-28-2005, 11:19 PM	#1
JOEY1727 did i do that? Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 08, 2005 Location: GA Posts: 532	JUST AN IDEAL,WHAT U THINK? I WOULD LIKE TO FIND SOME PEOPLE OR GET PEOPLE IN TO TRADING DATA.THIS WOULD BE FOR PEOPLE WHO LIKES TO MAKE THERE ON SET,AND PEOPLE THAT KNOW HOW TO CREATE SETS.IT WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM ALL THE DVDS U USE TO TRADE WITH..OK SAY THE SET ATEAM IS 25 DVDS..IF U TRADED IT AS DATA U WOULD ONLY HAVE 2 OR 3 DVDS TIED UP IN THE TRADE.ANOTHER THING IS WE WOULD HAVE A BUNCH OF DIFFERNT SETS RUNING AROUND.IF WE WOULD DO THAT I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW HOW TO MAKE THEM WOULD HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERNT SETS TO CHOOSE FROM.ITS JUST A THOUGHT.LEAVE FEEDBACK..
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09-28-2005, 11:52 PM	#2
neuroslicer Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 01, 2004 Posts: 85	That was fun! Thanks for the chuckle Joey! You really had me going. Neuro

09-29-2005, 10:30 PM	#7
Dragonbear balibt eisl kuschn Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 24, 2005 Posts: 224	AVI File Conversions and stuff I think I understand what is being presented. And correct me if I'm wrong here. Joey1727: What your basically saying is to take the raw files (either mpegs or avi files) and then pass them to each other so that people can create they're own custom sets. I've done this from time to time if I have 1 or 2 episodes of a series that someone wants for they're own collection to build they're own dvd's. To me it's useful for the 1 or 2 episodes but an entire series would end up being a larger pain. Mostly the problem would be rating the quality. Some of the MPEGs I've sent ended up being 1.5 gb of information (I do HD conversion with a3 audio on some of them. So that's going to end up being a large amount of data) so you're still only getting 3 episodes per disc. That converts down to something around 2 episodes of a disc since unless you convert it down to something much lower. So lets take for instance lost 23 episodes plus the special. so that ends up with a little bit over 30 gb of data (very roughly muliplied out). you get 4.3 gb roughly per dvd so you're passing on 8 dvd's give or take. now this is just the rough files. one of the things about passing the sets along is the convenience of not having to take the time to convert to a .vob format and then burn your own dvd (minimum 2 hours on some programs depending on what you use). So there you've burnt the original 8 discs that can't be reused (we'll leave out dvd r/w for this demo) and then you end up having to burn another 7 discs for the actual set. So you've doubled you're disc output and your time output all in the matter of convience. It's a good theoretical idea. but for practically it ends up getting shot in the foot. mostly cause of the time distribution and the added disc costs (and I have a large aversion to just throwing out discs cause it's a one time use).

09-29-2005, 10:52 PM	#8
JOEY1727 did i do that? Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 08, 2005 Location: GA Posts: 532	A THOUGHT I WAS LOOKING AT IT.THAT MAYBE WE WOULD GET BETTER SETS WITH GREA MENUS THAT WAY,BUT NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT,WASTE OF TIME.JUST THINKING OUT LOUD,,I;M LEAVING THAT THOUGHT ALONE..

09-29-2005, 12:15 AM	#3
JOEY1727 did i do that? Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 08, 2005 Location: GA Posts: 532	THE ONLY REASON I BRUNG THIS UP WAS,I DID A TRADE WITH SOMEONE AY HAD MORE AND THEY HAD MORE DATA THAN DVD SETS,SO IN A TRADE FOR A SET OF 7 DVDS I GOT 90210 AND JEM COMPLETE..ALL I GOT TO DO IS PUT THEM ON DVD MYSELF AND MAKE MY OWN MENUS..AND SOMETIMES WE MIGHTGET A SHOW THAT WE WOULDNT WANT TO EVEN WAST DVDS ...SO TRADE IT AS DATA..I SAVE ALOT OF MY SHOWS I LIKE ON DATE JUST INCASE THE DVDS GET MESSED UP I CAN GO BACK AND REMAKE THE DISK..LIKE I SAID IT WAS AN IDEL..

09-29-2005, 11:06 AM	#4
loren Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 11, 2005 Posts: 1,516	isnt that an awful lot of work to save a few discs there are lots of ideas out there, i know someone who trades hard drives full of shows, good idea until you figure the postal costs, and the risk of damage joey, you dont need to reinvent the wheel, blanks are very cheap, and cheap to ship,

09-30-2005, 01:22 AM	#9
Dragonbear balibt eisl kuschn Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 24, 2005 Posts: 224	It's a good idea on paper. but it just doesn't work in practicality. Still, with the creation of Divx players some people would be interested in this at somepoint.