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nerrad · 09-22-2005, 09:29 AM

...was heading towards her with that iron. I've heard of child abuse, but damn. I wonder have parents ever did something as sadistic as to burn their child with a hot iron. Nevertheless, when I first watched it, I turned my head.

And whatever we think of the Penny character, she gets an A+ for those episodes. The way she pleaded with her mother not to do it and "promising not to be a bad girl anymore" was a unforgettable scene. It was like we felt it along with her. We've all touched the bottom of an iron at some point (to see whether or not it's hot) and we know how that little bit feels. That's what was going thru my mind.

Jrnygrl · 09-22-2005, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by nerrad

...was heading towards her with that iron. I've heard of child abuse, but damn. I wonder have parents ever did something as sadistic as to burn their child with a hot iron. Nevertheless, when I first watched it, I turned my head.

And whatever we think of the Penny character, she gets an A+ for those episodes. The way she pleaded with her mother not to do it and "promising not to be a bad girl anymore" was a unforgettable scene. It was like we felt it along with her. We've all touched the bottom of an iron at some point (to see whether or not it's hot) and we know how that little bit feels. That's what was going thru my mind.

Oh yeah! The first time I saw this episode, I had no clue as to what child abuse was, but I couldn't believe that anyone would do that to their child.

I also agree that Penny (Janet) did an excellent job in that scene of being scared. I always thought years later she must have had flash backs from Joe's abuse.

TVFactFan · 09-22-2005, 09:39 AM

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Oh yeah! The first time I saw this episode, I had no clue as to what child abuse was, but I couldn't believe that anyone would do that to their child.

I also agree that Penny (Janet) did an excellent job in that scene of being scared. I always thought years later she must have had flash backs from Joe's abuse.

I want to know has there ever been a story like that with a child being burnt by an iron. The whole iron thing was too over the top. can;t see any parents doing that

vashti1999 · 09-22-2005, 10:00 AM

Yeah, the first time I saw this episode, as a child, I was on the edge of my seat and concerned for Penny. I agree Janet did a good job of conveying fear in that scene.

Brian Damage · 09-22-2005, 10:05 AM

What a horrible scene that was. The episode definitely ranks up there as one of my favorites.

GeorgeWBushGOP · 09-22-2005, 11:00 AM

Well I can say this much.

I was a bit fearful of the James character and can relate to fear of the belt.

My father was a regular user of the strap on my ass when I was out of line.

I don't remember if I felt it was abuse but as I am now in my late 30's I feel it was completely uncalled for.

But when the Iron issue came up now that completely freaked me out.

TVFactFan · 09-22-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeWBushGOP

Well I can say this much.

I was a bit fearful of the James character and can relate to fear of the belt.

My father was a regular user of the strap on my ass when I was out of line.

I don't remember if I felt it was abuse but as I am now in my late 30's I feel it was completely uncalled for.

But when the Iron issue came up now that completely freaked me out.

But the James character only used the belt on a bully from Michael's school

GeorgeWBushGOP · 09-22-2005, 03:22 PM

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But the James character only used the belt on a bully from Michael's school

It was implied that he used it regularly. In fact. He went for the belt a bunch of times to keep JJ and Michael in line. One episode unbuckling himself in front of Michael who got back in line.

He always threatened a whoopin. One can only imagine how the "Big Mac"must have felt like!!

TVFactFan · 09-22-2005, 06:42 PM

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It was implied that he used it regularly. In fact. He went for the belt a bunch of times to keep JJ and Michael in line. One episode unbuckling himself in front of Michael who got back in line.

He always threatened a whoopin. One can only imagine how the "Big Mac"must have felt like!!

It was also implied that he only used the belt when the kids did something wrong-lol

GeorgeWBushGOP · 09-22-2005, 06:45 PM

so it is ok to belt your kids ass if they do something wrong? that is at least debatable.

I smell a new topic.

James"Thunder"Early · 09-22-2005, 06:46 PM

I have heard cases of some parents burning their children, with irons, on the stove even with boiling water. So it definately has happened before.

Brieannas21 · 09-22-2005, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RetroTVCollector

I want to know has there ever been a story like that with a child being burnt by an iron. The whole iron thing was too over the top. can;t see any parents doing that

Yes parent have burnt their children before. There have been people who have burnt their kids with cigarettes, by putting their hands over a flame on by the stove. There are a lot of crazy people out there. Just turn on the news.

Ireneparalegal · 09-22-2005, 09:10 PM

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I want to know has there ever been a story like that with a child being burnt by an iron. The whole iron thing was too over the top. can;t see any parents doing that

Real loving parents don't do that. Horrific, sadistic people do that to their kids. As a matter of fact, we had a case here in our county abt three years ago abt a father who punished his 2 year old son for soiling his diaper by putting him in HOT WATER ONLY in a tub. The father held his son down in that water. He suffered third degree burns. the parents are in jail now for 15 years and the child was removed from them and any family and has been adopted. He will require many surgeries to graft skin. poor child.
Retro, I am really surprised you even asked that question. Surely you have heard of cases like this.

Living In a '70's Dream · 09-22-2005, 09:29 PM

I thought Chip Fields did an AMAZING job as Penny's abusive mother. The 4 part The Evans Get Involved are by far the best episodes from the 5th season...

Ireneparalegal · 09-22-2005, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeWBushGOP

so it is ok to belt your kids ass if they do something wrong? that is at least debatable.

I smell a new topic.

Make a thread abt this George!!!!

09-22-2005, 09:29 AM	#1
nerrad Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 06, 2003 Location: pfunkytown Posts: 1,253	Was I the only one who cringed when Penny's mom... ...was heading towards her with that iron. I've heard of child abuse, but damn. I wonder have parents ever did something as sadistic as to burn their child with a hot iron. Nevertheless, when I first watched it, I turned my head. And whatever we think of the Penny character, she gets an A+ for those episodes. The way she pleaded with her mother not to do it and "promising not to be a bad girl anymore" was a unforgettable scene. It was like we felt it along with her. We've all touched the bottom of an iron at some point (to see whether or not it's hot) and we know how that little bit feels. That's what was going thru my mind.

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GeorgeWBushGOP Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 04, 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 802	Well I can say this much. I was a bit fearful of the James character and can relate to fear of the belt. My father was a regular user of the strap on my ass when I was out of line. I don't remember if I felt it was abuse but as I am now in my late 30's I feel it was completely uncalled for. But when the Iron issue came up now that completely freaked me out.

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GeorgeWBushGOP Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 04, 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 802	so it is ok to belt your kids ass if they do something wrong? that is at least debatable. I smell a new topic.

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Living In a '70's Dream Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 17, 2005 Posts: 3,427	I thought Chip Fields did an AMAZING job as Penny's abusive mother. The 4 part The Evans Get Involved are by far the best episodes from the 5th season...