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EricR · 09-15-2005, 01:14 AM

The Grand Canyon episodes on the Season Three set are missing the final moments of each episode, including the music and the boxes. We need to contact Paramount.

Jack1000 · 09-15-2005, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by EricR

The Grand Canyon episodes on the Season Three set are missing the final moments of each episode, including the music and the boxes. We need to contact Paramount.

Do you mean that the end credits are missing until you get to Part 3 of the episode?

Jack

EricR · 09-15-2005, 03:20 AM

No, I'm saying that before the show goes to commercial for the last time, there are no ending boxes....it fades to black and cuts the music off on all three episodes. The end credits are intact.

Jack1000 · 09-15-2005, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by EricR

No, I'm saying that before the show goes to commercial for the last time, there are no ending boxes....it fades to black and cuts the music off on all three episodes. The end credits are intact.

That is interesting!!! Since the DVD's are taking from the original masters do you think that the squares going in/music was done for the syndicated prints? According to Sitcomes Online's review of Season 3, the episodes are uncut running between 25-26 minutes in legnth. That does seem odd, because the squares fill up on all the other episodes that I have seen for the DVD's. (I don't have Season 3 yet.)

I have to know this: On the end credits, does it have that voice-over that says, "Don't miss part____________of the Brady Bunch Grand Canyon adventure, seen next week at this time." That was left in for the first syndication cycle when the show was on every day. They removed it in the 80's.

Jack

Cindyfan · 09-15-2005, 05:49 AM

Yes, the voice-over is heard at the end credits for parts 1 and 2

EricR · 09-15-2005, 01:36 PM

Can someone check their vhs copies that they have (from any source) and tell me if these scenes were on there?

BillyK · 09-15-2005, 02:05 PM

I noticed that too. Especially right before the tag of the 2nd part episode. They have a quick fade out instead of the individual squares popping up one by one.

Big OOPS on Paramont's part.

EricR · 09-15-2005, 02:41 PM

Paramount Contact: 323.956.5000

Bachu · 09-16-2005, 06:27 PM

I have checked my vhs copy I taped from Sky One here in the UK. At the end of the first one we have the brady grid appear followed by a fade to black. We then get one small tag with Alice and Carol followed by another fade to black. The end credits do not feature any voice over.

At the end of the second one the grid has been cut but the last tag with Bradys looking for Bobby and Cindy is still intact. This fades to black. The end credits do not feature any voice over on this episode either.

I hope they don't mess up the season four three part opener. Gregs 'wipe out' and the grid appearing over his empty surf board with some 'dramatic' music is great!

Jack1000 · 09-16-2005, 06:44 PM

Guys,

I should have Season 3 in a couple of weeks. Based on Bachu's post we appear to have a "mix" of what is included and is not included. I don't think we are missing any dialogue however. What we have is a fade to black instead of the approximately 7 second music interledue when the squares fill in, followed by the tag, than the end credits.

The question is, did Paramount do the DVD's from the original master tapes? I don't see why they wouldn't. Sitcomes Online's review of the DVD's says that the episodes appear to be uncut running at least 25 minutes. We can also assume that Paramount also did some syndicate cuts from the original masters (or couldn't find the original negatives) and had to go back into the vaults to use the back up 16mm prints to get the uncut episodes. Is it possible that this fade-to-black without the squares filling in was how the episode originally aired, and they added the squares fill-in for syndication showings?

A question for Bachu:

Is The Brady Bunch shown uncut in the UK? I know that in Australia according to info from Brady World it appears to be, because they show the long ago deleted skinny-dipping scene from "Goodbye Alice Hello."

Jack

Jack1000 · 09-16-2005, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EricR

Paramount Contact: 323.956.5000

Hey Eric, (or anybody.)

If you contact Paramount, find out if they actually did the DVD's of The Brady Bunch from the original master tapes.

Jack

TV Guy · 09-16-2005, 08:43 PM

What is wrong with Paramount (and some of these other studios) that they can't get their act together to make sure the stuff they release on DVD is UNCUT? If I wanted the squares edited out on the Grand Canyon episodes, I'd watch TV Land.

Jack1000 · 09-16-2005, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TV Guy

What is wrong with Paramount (and some of these other studios) that they can't get their act together to make sure the stuff they release on DVD is UNCUT? If I wanted the squares edited out on the Grand Canyon episodes, I'd watch TV Land.

Yea,

On a somewhat related topic for "Greg Get's Grounded" on TV Land, the squares fill in BEFORE Greg says his last lines about the frogs jumping on the pizza:

"I don't think we'll be eating this tonight. And he was in 34th place too!"

(This is cut.)

Jack

EricR · 09-17-2005, 02:38 AM

I also read where "The Brady Bunch in Color" slide isn't included in this season.....Slow down the releases a little, Paramount, and get them right! Please contact them, everyone, so we can at least get an answer.....it does help....I wrote months beofre the dvds came out about including the original Paramount logo.

Jack1000 · 09-17-2005, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by EricR

I also read where "The Brady Bunch in Color" slide isn't included in this season.....Slow down the releases a little, Paramount, and get them right! Please contact them, everyone, so we can at least get an answer.....it does help....I wrote months beofre the dvds came out about including the original Paramount logo.

Hey Eric,

I found out that the "In Color" 7-second preview before the theme song WAS dropped after the first two seasons when the show originaly aired.

The only thing that was not restored for the DVD's was that little snibbit between the final commercial and the tag, where the kid who's weekly storyline the episode centered on would say, "The Brady Bunch will return in a moment." That square business won't prevent me from buying the Season 3 set, but at the very least we need an explanation. If that is the way it was originally filmed (which, I think is unlikely) and they added the squares when it went into syndication than it's understandable. But if they cut 7 seconds for no reason that's just...stupid!

I could see Paramount being real evasive about this. It would be impossible to know what the real story is unless you could go back in a time machine to September 1971 and somehow see the show when it first aired. What is even more bizzare is if they did cut that out, they leave in the "don't miss next week's episode" voice-over. I mean if you have to cut, cut that but leave our Brady Squares alone!!!

Jack

09-15-2005, 01:14 AM	#1
EricR Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 10, 2005 Posts: 66	Grand Canyon Episodes Edited The Grand Canyon episodes on the Season Three set are missing the final moments of each episode, including the music and the boxes. We need to contact Paramount.

09-15-2005, 03:20 AM	#3
EricR Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 10, 2005 Posts: 66	No, I'm saying that before the show goes to commercial for the last time, there are no ending boxes....it fades to black and cuts the music off on all three episodes. The end credits are intact.

09-15-2005, 05:49 AM	#5
Cindyfan Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 15, 2005 Posts: 15	Yes, the voice-over is heard at the end credits for parts 1 and 2

09-15-2005, 01:36 PM	#6
EricR Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 10, 2005 Posts: 66	Can someone check their vhs copies that they have (from any source) and tell me if these scenes were on there?

09-15-2005, 02:05 PM	#7
BillyK Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 23, 2003 Location: Connecticut Posts: 122	I noticed that too. Especially right before the tag of the 2nd part episode. They have a quick fade out instead of the individual squares popping up one by one. Big OOPS on Paramont's part.

09-15-2005, 02:41 PM	#8
EricR Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 10, 2005 Posts: 66	Paramount Contact: 323.956.5000

09-16-2005, 06:27 PM	#9
Bachu Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 10, 2005 Posts: 809	I have checked my vhs copy I taped from Sky One here in the UK. At the end of the first one we have the brady grid appear followed by a fade to black. We then get one small tag with Alice and Carol followed by another fade to black. The end credits do not feature any voice over. At the end of the second one the grid has been cut but the last tag with Bradys looking for Bobby and Cindy is still intact. This fades to black. The end credits do not feature any voice over on this episode either. I hope they don't mess up the season four three part opener. Gregs 'wipe out' and the grid appearing over his empty surf board with some 'dramatic' music is great!

09-16-2005, 06:44 PM	#10
Jack1000 Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 05, 2001 Posts: 2,055	Guys, I should have Season 3 in a couple of weeks. Based on Bachu's post we appear to have a "mix" of what is included and is not included. I don't think we are missing any dialogue however. What we have is a fade to black instead of the approximately 7 second music interledue when the squares fill in, followed by the tag, than the end credits. The question is, did Paramount do the DVD's from the original master tapes? I don't see why they wouldn't. Sitcomes Online's review of the DVD's says that the episodes appear to be uncut running at least 25 minutes. We can also assume that Paramount also did some syndicate cuts from the original masters (or couldn't find the original negatives) and had to go back into the vaults to use the back up 16mm prints to get the uncut episodes. Is it possible that this fade-to-black without the squares filling in was how the episode originally aired, and they added the squares fill-in for syndication showings? A question for Bachu: Is The Brady Bunch shown uncut in the UK? I know that in Australia according to info from Brady World it appears to be, because they show the long ago deleted skinny-dipping scene from "Goodbye Alice Hello." Jack

09-16-2005, 08:43 PM	#12
TV Guy Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 25, 2001 Location: Boston, MA, USA Posts: 3,419	What is wrong with Paramount (and some of these other studios) that they can't get their act together to make sure the stuff they release on DVD is UNCUT? If I wanted the squares edited out on the Grand Canyon episodes, I'd watch TV Land.

09-17-2005, 02:38 AM	#14
EricR Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 10, 2005 Posts: 66	I also read where "The Brady Bunch in Color" slide isn't included in this season.....Slow down the releases a little, Paramount, and get them right! Please contact them, everyone, so we can at least get an answer.....it does help....I wrote months beofre the dvds came out about including the original Paramount logo.