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Ireneparalegal · 09-07-2005, 08:40 PM

I just read a poster state that racism was one of their many pet peeves. I responded back. It made me think of something i heard several times abt blind people not being prejudiced because they can't judge by someone's skin. So, I just thought, do u think they can be prejudiced abt that or any other things???? Just a little forum that I hope generates some interesting chat.

robyrob · 09-07-2005, 10:55 PM

racism isnt hereditary, it is TAUGHT.

...and the blind arent somehow incomplete or less than anyone else; they are often much more adept at picking up things that many people overlook, including how others around them are treated. My niece has been blind from birth, and she "sees" a heck of a lot more than you could ever imagine.

dawsongirl · 09-07-2005, 10:57 PM

I think they can be prejudiced just as well even if they can't see skin color. Depends on how they were taught. People can hate black/brown/white/pink people for other things than mearly their skin color.

Jrnygrl · 09-08-2005, 12:09 AM

Irene have you been watching Dave Chappelle?? Are you thinking the character he did that was black and blind but hated black people???

I have to agree that racism and prejudice are taught feelings.

Ireneparalegal · 09-08-2005, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jrnygrl

Irene have you been watching Dave Chappelle?? Are you thinking the character he did that was black and blind but hated black people???

I have to agree that racism and prejudice are taught feelings.

OMG, I didn't even remember that until you posted that!!!! That is hilarious.
Putting the laughter aside, I know racism isn't hereditary. That I know. But, just like the other poster said, she has a family member who is blind, yet she sees people alot better than we do.
That was my point. Because blind people obviously can't see, physically. They can "see" emotionally, verbally, through smell and all the other senses. So maybe that can clear things up abt how I asked the question. Seeing people don't have the authority of being prejudiced. So I wanted some feedback on if you think blind people can be prejudiced, how do you think that may be? What form of prejudice may they have? Sorry if I offended, not my intention, just a thought to make conversation.

The Chauffeur · 09-08-2005, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

OMG, I didn't even remember that until you posted that!!!! That is hilarious.
Putting the laughter aside, I know racism isn't hereditary. That I know. But, just like the other poster said, she has a family member who is blind, yet she sees people alot better than we do.
That was my point. Because blind people obviously can't see, physically. They can "see" emotionally, verbally, through smell and all the other senses. So maybe that can clear things up abt how I asked the question. Seeing people don't have the authority of being prejudiced. So I wanted some feedback on if you think blind people can be prejudiced, how do you think that may be? What form of prejudice may they have? Sorry if I offended, not my intention, just a thought to make conversation.

HE (lol) and I have the same niece. Not only is she blind but she is also 8 years old. I have to say she understands things probably better than any of us do. She's very aware of her surroundings as you will often see her "watching" people so that she can better understand them. I know you don't mean to offend, and I see you have made some agreeing points. But, I'm just wondering, who DOES have the authority to be prejudice? Is this your point? Can they have prejudice? Deffinately! I have seen her be around certain races that she associates by smell, that would be a starting point is identification. That coupled with listening to other people rant negatively about that race could potentially cause her to be prejudice. Fortunately she isn't taught that, but I have met other visually impaired that are. I'm not so sure that they were taught to be that way, but I can see how they could be caught up in the generalization virus that breeds racial tension on there own.

Ireneparalegal · 09-08-2005, 11:50 AM

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HE (lol) and I have the same niece. Not only is she blind but she is also 8 years old. I have to say she understands things probably better than any of us do. She's very aware of her surroundings as you will often see her "watching" people so that she can better understand them. I know you don't mean to offend, and I see you have made some agreeing points. But, I'm just wondering, who DOES have the authority to be prejudice? Is this your point? Can they have prejudice? Deffinately! I have seen her be around certain races that she associates by smell, that would be a starting point is identification. That coupled with listening to other people rant negatively about that race could potentially cause her to be prejudice. Fortunately she isn't taught that, but I have met other visually impaired that are. I'm not so sure that they were taught to be that way, but I can see how they could be caught up in the generalization virus that breeds racial tension on there own.

OMG, this was a great post. This is what I was hoping for. No one has the authority on being prejudiced. Far from it. It just seems that SOME people assume that prejudices are based on skin color. When in fact, it runs deeper than that. I had stated to someone that it is more than skin color. They had responded to me that Stevie Wonder "ain't prejudice". Their words, not mine. I told them how would they know? And besides, having vision or not, you can still have prejudices, hate, assumptions, etc. Did that make things clear abt this thread? I hope so. Love how you analyzed this thread with your post.

The Chauffeur · 09-08-2005, 01:06 PM

I just thought i'de ask up front before things got lost in translation, the internet is nasty for taking things out of context.

but yes, i do see your point and i so agree!

TripperFan · 09-09-2005, 05:20 PM

Great thread Irene!! Makes for a very good conversation. My first thought was to think, probably not as much as a sighted person, but it's true - prejudice is taught and sight isn't the only clue that someone is "different" from you.

I thinks its very possible there's prejudice blind and deaf people - and no, their condition doesn't give them the right - anymore than it does the rest of us.

I wouldn't call my parents racist or highly prejudice, as they had all kinds of friends, but they did tend to generalize and "group" people - they were taught by their parents. One of my brothers not only followed that, but has gotten worse over the years (the one I don't talk to anymore) - Archie Bunker is his "hero". My other brother and myself have "retaught" ourselves not to be. If anything, I think I have more friends now who are not of my race, religion or background than ones who are. And I feel my life has been enriched because of it.

Ireneparalegal · 09-10-2005, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TripperFan

Great thread Irene!! Makes for a very good conversation. My first thought was to think, probably not as much as a sighted person, but it's true - prejudice is taught and sight isn't the only clue that someone is "different" from you.

I thinks its very possible there's prejudice blind and deaf people - and no, their condition doesn't give them the right - anymore than it does the rest of us.

I wouldn't call my parents racist or highly prejudice, as they had all kinds of friends, but they did tend to generalize and "group" people - they were taught by their parents. One of my brothers not only followed that, but has gotten worse over the years (the one I don't talk to anymore) - Archie Bunker is his "hero". My other brother and myself have "retaught" ourselves not to be. If anything, I think I have more friends now who are not of my race, religion or background than ones who are. And I feel my life has been enriched because of it.

Good for you Tripper. Hate is too strong an emotion for one to carry. Hate itself is a "Blind Spot" in itself. Who wants to go thru life having those kind of thoughts? I know a few people like that, but I choose to not deal with their "decisions". If put in a position where something is said that is totally wrong, I SPEAK LOUD AND CLEAR. No diff. then being on the forum here. Why should I allow someone to say stupid things when I know better. I am just as guilty if I don't stand up and say something.

The Chauffeur · 09-10-2005, 08:52 AM

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Good for you Tripper. Hate is too strong an emotion for one to carry. Hate itself is a "Blind Spot" in itself. Who wants to go thru life having those kind of thoughts? I know a few people like that, but I choose to not deal with their "decisions". If put in a position where something is said that is totally wrong, I SPEAK LOUD AND CLEAR. No diff. then being on the forum here. Why should I allow someone to say stupid things when I know better. I am just as guilty if I don't stand up and say something.

Actually, I think some people DO want to be that way. Some get a rush out of that kind of hate and sometimes some people get a sick sense of belonging when they are in an organization like the Arian nation or others like them. I've known some of them while I was growing up, that's how I always percieved them. In their mind they really think they are doing good on Society, it's sick, but you really can't tell them any different. Some believe it until they die while others sometime eventually abandon the belief.

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09-09-2005, 05:20 PM	#9
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09-07-2005, 10:55 PM	#2
robyrob certified wackball#3 Moderator Forum Icon Join Date: Aug 03, 2003 Location: hiding under the third booth at Arnold's Posts: 58,200	racism isnt hereditary, it is TAUGHT. ...and the blind arent somehow incomplete or less than anyone else; they are often much more adept at picking up things that many people overlook, including how others around them are treated. My niece has been blind from birth, and she "sees" a heck of a lot more than you could ever imagine.

09-07-2005, 10:57 PM	#3
dawsongirl Member Forum Icon Join Date: Jan 04, 2001 Posts: 53,140	I think they can be prejudiced just as well even if they can't see skin color. Depends on how they were taught. People can hate black/brown/white/pink people for other things than mearly their skin color.

09-08-2005, 12:09 AM	#4
Jrnygrl Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 03, 2003 Location: wheel in the sky Posts: 4,540	Irene have you been watching Dave Chappelle?? Are you thinking the character he did that was black and blind but hated black people??? I have to agree that racism and prejudice are taught feelings.

09-08-2005, 01:06 PM	#8
The Chauffeur Good Evening... Senior Member Join Date: Jan 24, 2005 Location: Under the sun Posts: 2,866	I just thought i'de ask up front before things got lost in translation, the internet is nasty for taking things out of context. but yes, i do see your point and i so agree!