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Ireneparalegal · 08-17-2005, 07:20 PM

My boyfriend is offended with the way Mark's personality changed on the show. He said that Mark was a tough guy who knew what he wanted. Later in the seasons, Mark became somewhat of a wuss. He also became "dumb." Sorta "dumb blonde" dumb. (Please, no offense to blondes, I was blonde for over 15 years. Suicide Blonde) Anyhow, just curious how you all feel about this change in the character.

Brian Damage · 08-17-2005, 07:37 PM

I hated how the men were being portrayed overall. You could really sense Roseanne's disdain for men in later seasons.

Ireneparalegal · 08-17-2005, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

I hated how the men were being portrayed overall. You could really sense Roseanne's disdain for men in later seasons.

OMG Brian, that is exactly what my boyfriend had said so many times. No exactly in those words but words to the effect of how Roseanne made men almost "dumb" in her show. How Roseanne (the character) had the upper hand on things. I felt the same way with the Claire character on The Cosby Show. As a matter of fact, on one of the Everybody Loves Raymond chat forums, people say the same thing abt the wife. It's almost like this has been an era of "stronger" females and males that are "wusses". Don't anyone start getting mad at me, I am not saying this, it is an observation I have made and I don't really like it.

Brian Damage · 08-17-2005, 07:46 PM

I think we started seeing drastic changes in the male characters after Roseanne divorced Tom Arnold. I think she took her agression out on the scripts.

USTVFanFromUK · 08-17-2005, 09:36 PM

I was actually glad men were portrayed the way they were on Roseanne. For years, females had been stereotypically written to conform to some unwritten law. Roseanne always had problems with that and kind of flipped the script on such a notion.

I actually think the show got funnier it it went of. Seasons 5 and 6 are my absolute favourites.

Bren · 08-19-2005, 04:52 PM

I think that even though Mark was "tough" he was also kinda dumb from the get-go. It's too bad he self-destructed in RL.

GreenRanger01 · 10-27-2005, 07:48 PM

I agree with the way men were portrayed, but it's becoming like that everywhere now. A guy on TV is too stupid to change a flat tire nowadays apparently without his wife coming to the rescue with fix-a-flat. Also men are apparently too stupid and whipped to know that his cereal will stay crunchy in milk w/o being told by his wife. I'm all for women's rights but it seems like it's becoming a reverse of what it was in the past. Women having all the power, smarts, and control on tv and guys being stupid, whipped, and wussy.

syndicationholic · 10-28-2005, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bren

I think that even though Mark was "tough" he was also kinda dumb from the get-go. It's too bad he self-destructed in RL.

I agree, it's too bad he took his own life.

But you're right, he was kind of dumb even at day 1. Remember his first day Darlene asked 'what's 2 plus 2' and he said "HUH?"

08-17-2005, 07:20 PM	#1
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	Mark's personality change My boyfriend is offended with the way Mark's personality changed on the show. He said that Mark was a tough guy who knew what he wanted. Later in the seasons, Mark became somewhat of a wuss. He also became "dumb." Sorta "dumb blonde" dumb. (Please, no offense to blondes, I was blonde for over 15 years. Suicide Blonde) Anyhow, just curious how you all feel about this change in the character.

08-17-2005, 09:36 PM	#5
USTVFanFromUK Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 24, 2004 Posts: 553	I was actually glad men were portrayed the way they were on Roseanne. For years, females had been stereotypically written to conform to some unwritten law. Roseanne always had problems with that and kind of flipped the script on such a notion. I actually think the show got funnier it it went of. Seasons 5 and 6 are my absolute favourites.
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10-27-2005, 07:48 PM	#7
GreenRanger01 The One and Only Occasional Poster Join Date: Jun 23, 2004 Location: NC Posts: 85	I agree with the way men were portrayed, but it's becoming like that everywhere now. A guy on TV is too stupid to change a flat tire nowadays apparently without his wife coming to the rescue with fix-a-flat. Also men are apparently too stupid and whipped to know that his cereal will stay crunchy in milk w/o being told by his wife. I'm all for women's rights but it seems like it's becoming a reverse of what it was in the past. Women having all the power, smarts, and control on tv and guys being stupid, whipped, and wussy.
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08-17-2005, 07:37 PM	#2
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	I hated how the men were being portrayed overall. You could really sense Roseanne's disdain for men in later seasons.

08-17-2005, 07:46 PM	#4
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	I think we started seeing drastic changes in the male characters after Roseanne divorced Tom Arnold. I think she took her agression out on the scripts.

08-19-2005, 04:52 PM	#6
Bren Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 08, 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 6	I think that even though Mark was "tough" he was also kinda dumb from the get-go. It's too bad he self-destructed in RL.