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Brian Damage · 08-13-2005, 05:16 PM

I recently was told by a trader to send a non-postal money order. The excuse that I was given is that there is a huge counterfeit ring going on with Postal money orders. Has anybody heard this and if not, what would you make out of that statement? I am not trying to doubt the credibility of this trader, it just sounds weird to me.

wildlele · 08-13-2005, 05:21 PM

i'd laugh my ass off and keep my money.... have them send first

Brian Damage · 08-13-2005, 05:24 PM

You can't track regular money orders can you?

wolf11 · 08-13-2005, 05:28 PM

right you can not track money order beside there very hard to copy anyway sound very strange to me i woul go and ask the post office and see what they say beside if it were true it should be on the the news as a top story so i say that this person is well strange

RedWhine56 · 08-13-2005, 05:38 PM

Pose this question on ebay's message board - try Seller Central. I know there was discussion a while back about counterfeit money orders. Most people tend to think they are secure payment, but not so.

PS - IIRC, I was thinking the USPS were the ones that were least likely to be counterfeit...(shrug) But obviously, those sellers go through lots of MOs & know the latest scoop.

mhadley · 08-13-2005, 06:13 PM

Call a Citizens Bank (formally F&M) and ask them. They will tell you about this.

loren · 08-13-2005, 06:16 PM

heres is more than likely what he really was speaking of, when he didnt want a postal money order.

more and more banks will not take them due to fraud

i can get a money ordein the mail, and give it to my buddy to run at a bank, he cashes it and spends the loot

i then tell the buyer the money order didnt get here

buyer files a form at the postal, and after about 60 days, most likely gets his money back

bank is then out of luck, as postal pulls the funds

many banks will not even take a postal money order for that reason

so yes its due to fraud and theft

heres a little known fact, the post office will give you cash for a money order on the spot. take it to the window, present id, get the cash

no bank needs to be invloved

case closed

i love postal money orders, no time needed to clear, no chance of me not getting the cash, no charge backs a couple months later

sometimes folks get a piece of the story, and thats why they dont make any sense

scottdvd · 08-13-2005, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

I recently was told by a trader to send a non-postal money order. The excuse that I was given is that there is a huge counterfeit ring going on with Postal money orders. Has anybody heard this and if not, what would you make out of that statement? I am not trying to doubt the credibility of this trader, it just sounds weird to me.

If someone wants to send me a money order I require a postal money order. I am very familiar with what they look like and the post office will cash it for you. If it is fake then they will not, so there is no way you would ever be out any money.

I would be more cautious of a money order from a convienence store somewhere that I don't know what its supposed to look like anyway.

Lamont · 08-13-2005, 10:53 PM

Sounds fishy to me... i have cashed all my post office money orders at the post office... one time i had a money order from my sister, that was 3 years old!! i lost it, and found it later on, and they even cashed a 3 year old money order for $100 (b day gift) with no questions asked!!!!

sbeamish · 08-14-2005, 08:24 AM

I work for the USPS. As a carrier I'm certainly no expert on clerk or managerial functions, but we haven't been notified about any problems with postal money orders. (Ofcourse, I've been on vacation for the past two weeks.) Usually we are informed about any scams involving the postal service.

Just wanted to put in my two cents.

Agent 13 · 08-14-2005, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

I recently was told by a trader to send a non-postal money order. The excuse that I was given is that there is a huge counterfeit ring going on with Postal money orders. Has anybody heard this and if not, what would you make out of that statement? I am not trying to doubt the credibility of this trader, it just sounds weird to me.

If this was his legitimate excuse, then what would hinder him from taking your postal money order, going to the post office, cashing it before sending your item(s)?

It sounds like he has something to hide.

IMHO

lordsmurf · 08-14-2005, 12:17 PM

I fail to see the problem. Go get a Western Union (yellow) money order. Moneygram ones (blue) are pretty common too. Sold at gas stations and grocery stores. Cheaper than a postal one anyway.

mhadley · 08-14-2005, 06:48 PM

I just know what my bank told me and that they REFUSE to cash or deposit postal money orders....

debwalsh · 08-16-2005, 08:16 AM

Bummer. I like both postal and Western Union money orders for the convenience. I've used WU MOs a number of times to pay for eBay auctions because I can order them online, and I can track them through Western Union's web site.

Oh well. Seems the scammers slink into every facet of life ... :<

lordsmurf · 08-16-2005, 07:08 PM

A Western Union "money order" is not the same as "wiring money" (also a Western Union service). A Western Union money order is the same thing as a postal money order, for all intents and purposes. A piece of paper you buy and mail.

08-13-2005, 05:16 PM	#1
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	If somebody said this would any of you be suspicious? I recently was told by a trader to send a non-postal money order. The excuse that I was given is that there is a huge counterfeit ring going on with Postal money orders. Has anybody heard this and if not, what would you make out of that statement? I am not trying to doubt the credibility of this trader, it just sounds weird to me.

08-13-2005, 10:53 PM	#9
Lamont Lamont says Smile! Forum Veteran Join Date: May 28, 2005 Location: Deep in the Heart of Nowhere Posts: 5,217	money orders Sounds fishy to me... i have cashed all my post office money orders at the post office... one time i had a money order from my sister, that was 3 years old!! i lost it, and found it later on, and they even cashed a 3 year old money order for $100 (b day gift) with no questions asked!!!!

08-14-2005, 12:17 PM	#12
lordsmurf Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 08, 2005 Posts: 155	I fail to see the problem. Go get a Western Union (yellow) money order. Moneygram ones (blue) are pretty common too. Sold at gas stations and grocery stores. Cheaper than a postal one anyway.
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08-16-2005, 08:16 AM	#14
debwalsh Ancient Archivist Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 23, 2004 Location: Commonwealth of Pennsylvania Posts: 504	Bummer. I like both postal and Western Union money orders for the convenience. I've used WU MOs a number of times to pay for eBay auctions because I can order them online, and I can track them through Western Union's web site. Oh well. Seems the scammers slink into every facet of life ... :<
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08-13-2005, 05:21 PM	#2
wildlele Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 29, 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 42	i'd laugh my ass off and keep my money.... have them send first

08-13-2005, 05:24 PM	#3
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	You can't track regular money orders can you?

08-13-2005, 05:28 PM	#4
wolf11 Banned Banned!! Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 07, 2005 Location: Meshoppen PA Posts: 288	right you can not track money order beside there very hard to copy anyway sound very strange to me i woul go and ask the post office and see what they say beside if it were true it should be on the the news as a top story so i say that this person is well strange

08-13-2005, 05:38 PM	#5
RedWhine56 Sleigh? What sleigh? Forum Regular Join Date: Aug 03, 2005 Location: In the "Secret Room" with the cronies! Posts: 756	Pose this question on ebay's message board - try Seller Central. I know there was discussion a while back about counterfeit money orders. Most people tend to think they are secure payment, but not so. PS - IIRC, I was thinking the USPS were the ones that were least likely to be counterfeit...(shrug) But obviously, those sellers go through lots of MOs & know the latest scoop.

08-13-2005, 06:13 PM	#6
mhadley Member Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 22, 2003 Posts: 572	Call a Citizens Bank (formally F&M) and ask them. They will tell you about this.

08-13-2005, 06:16 PM	#7
loren Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 11, 2005 Posts: 1,516	heres is more than likely what he really was speaking of, when he didnt want a postal money order. more and more banks will not take them due to fraud i can get a money ordein the mail, and give it to my buddy to run at a bank, he cashes it and spends the loot i then tell the buyer the money order didnt get here buyer files a form at the postal, and after about 60 days, most likely gets his money back bank is then out of luck, as postal pulls the funds many banks will not even take a postal money order for that reason so yes its due to fraud and theft heres a little known fact, the post office will give you cash for a money order on the spot. take it to the window, present id, get the cash no bank needs to be invloved case closed i love postal money orders, no time needed to clear, no chance of me not getting the cash, no charge backs a couple months later sometimes folks get a piece of the story, and thats why they dont make any sense

08-14-2005, 08:24 AM	#10
sbeamish Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 28, 2004 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 296	I work for the USPS. As a carrier I'm certainly no expert on clerk or managerial functions, but we haven't been notified about any problems with postal money orders. (Ofcourse, I've been on vacation for the past two weeks.) Usually we are informed about any scams involving the postal service. Just wanted to put in my two cents.

08-14-2005, 06:48 PM	#13
mhadley Member Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 22, 2003 Posts: 572	I just know what my bank told me and that they REFUSE to cash or deposit postal money orders....

08-16-2005, 07:08 PM	#15
lordsmurf Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 08, 2005 Posts: 155	A Western Union "money order" is not the same as "wiring money" (also a Western Union service). A Western Union money order is the same thing as a postal money order, for all intents and purposes. A piece of paper you buy and mail.