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Janice · 08-06-2005, 10:43 AM

Ex-Prosecutor: Monroe Wasn't Suicidal

LOS ANGELES (AP) - On the anniversary of Marilyn Monroe's death, a former prosecutor has unveiled what he says are notes of her secret confessions to a psychiatrist that show her as anything but suicidal.

"There was no possible way this woman could have killed herself," John Miner told the Los Angeles Times for a story published Friday. "She had very specific plans for her future. She knew exactly what she wanted to do."

Miner, 86, said he would like to see another autopsy performed on Monroe and believes the large dose of barbiturates found in her body may have been administered by someone else.

Meanwhile, fans were holding their annual gathering Friday near her crypt at Westwood Village Memorial Park to honor the star of movies such as "Some Like It Hot."

Conspiracy theories about Monroe's Aug. 5, 1962, death have become part of her legend. Many continue to doubt the official conclusion of "probable suicide" reached after the 36-year-old actress was found naked and face down on a bed in her Brentwood home.

Miner is the former head of the Los Angeles County district attorney's medical-legal section. He provided the Times with notes he says he took of audiotapes made by Monroe's psychiatrist.

Miner said they show a motivated actress who wanted to do Shakespearean plays and promised her psychiatrist that she had thrown all her "pills in the toilet," a possible reference to her reported drug dependency.

The notes, which Miner called "extensive" and "nearly verbatim," also show Monroe obsessing about the Oscars, alleging she had a one-night stand with Joan Crawford and speaking candidly about the failures of her marriages to baseball star Joe DiMaggio and playwright Arthur Miller.

There has been no independent confirmation of the tapes, which Miner said he believes may have been made close to the time of Monroe's death. Miner said the psychiatrist, Dr. Ralph Greenson, played the tapes for him in 1962 on condition that he never reveal their contents, and that Greenson may have destroyed them before his 1979 death.

Miner said years after Greenson's death, he broke the promise after some biographers suggested that Greenson might be considered a suspect in Monroe's death.

Greenson's widow, Hildegard, told the Times that she did not know whether the tapes existed and never heard her husband discuss them.

According to Miner's notes, Monroe praised President John F. Kennedy but never indicates she slept with him. She does mention his brother, Robert F. Kennedy, saying "there is no room in my life for him."

"I want someone else to tell him it's over," she says, according to Miner's notes.

Miner has shown his notes to several people in recent years and excerpts appeared in Matthew Smith's book "Marilyn's Last Words: Her Secret Tapes and Mysterious Death."

However, the Times received previously unpublished parts from Miner.

The district attorney's office re-examined Monroe's death in 1982 and interviewed Miner but determined there wasn't enough evidence to open a criminal investigation.

At the time, Miner mentioned that Greenson had the taped interviews but never said he had notes of them, said Ronald Carroll, a former deputy district attorney who conducted the review. If Miner had mentioned the notes, Carroll said he probably would have sought them through a grand jury subpoena.

TripperFan · 08-06-2005, 10:49 AM

I've always wondered that - too many questions surrounding that death.
Hmmmmm....could there have been a trend forming with the Kennedy brothers???

*MIBabe03* · 08-06-2005, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TripperFan

I've always wondered that - too many questions surrounding that death.
Hmmmmm....could there have been a trend forming with the Kennedy brothers???

I've always assumed that's who was behind it. One of the Kennedy's could have had sex with her, and then somehow she died. Maybe they poisoned her or something.

Superstar · 08-06-2005, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by *MIBabe03*

I've always assumed that's who was behind it. One of the Kennedy's could have had sex with her, and then somehow she died. Maybe they poisoned her or something.

yeah. I always thought she didn't kill herself though.

SBTB Geek · 08-06-2005, 06:03 PM

Didn't she die because of a poisoned enema?... I doubt she wanted to kill herself that way.

I'm quite sure the Kennedy bros. were involved somehow.

08-06-2005, 10:43 AM	#1
Janice Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin' Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 36,388	Ex-Prosecutor: Marilyn Monroe Wasn't Suicidal Ex-Prosecutor: Monroe Wasn't Suicidal LOS ANGELES (AP) - On the anniversary of Marilyn Monroe's death, a former prosecutor has unveiled what he says are notes of her secret confessions to a psychiatrist that show her as anything but suicidal. "There was no possible way this woman could have killed herself," John Miner told the Los Angeles Times for a story published Friday. "She had very specific plans for her future. She knew exactly what she wanted to do." Miner, 86, said he would like to see another autopsy performed on Monroe and believes the large dose of barbiturates found in her body may have been administered by someone else. Meanwhile, fans were holding their annual gathering Friday near her crypt at Westwood Village Memorial Park to honor the star of movies such as "Some Like It Hot." Conspiracy theories about Monroe's Aug. 5, 1962, death have become part of her legend. Many continue to doubt the official conclusion of "probable suicide" reached after the 36-year-old actress was found naked and face down on a bed in her Brentwood home. Miner is the former head of the Los Angeles County district attorney's medical-legal section. He provided the Times with notes he says he took of audiotapes made by Monroe's psychiatrist. Miner said they show a motivated actress who wanted to do Shakespearean plays and promised her psychiatrist that she had thrown all her "pills in the toilet," a possible reference to her reported drug dependency. The notes, which Miner called "extensive" and "nearly verbatim," also show Monroe obsessing about the Oscars, alleging she had a one-night stand with Joan Crawford and speaking candidly about the failures of her marriages to baseball star Joe DiMaggio and playwright Arthur Miller. There has been no independent confirmation of the tapes, which Miner said he believes may have been made close to the time of Monroe's death. Miner said the psychiatrist, Dr. Ralph Greenson, played the tapes for him in 1962 on condition that he never reveal their contents, and that Greenson may have destroyed them before his 1979 death. Miner said years after Greenson's death, he broke the promise after some biographers suggested that Greenson might be considered a suspect in Monroe's death. Greenson's widow, Hildegard, told the Times that she did not know whether the tapes existed and never heard her husband discuss them. According to Miner's notes, Monroe praised President John F. Kennedy but never indicates she slept with him. She does mention his brother, Robert F. Kennedy, saying "there is no room in my life for him." "I want someone else to tell him it's over," she says, according to Miner's notes. Miner has shown his notes to several people in recent years and excerpts appeared in Matthew Smith's book "Marilyn's Last Words: Her Secret Tapes and Mysterious Death." However, the Times received previously unpublished parts from Miner. The district attorney's office re-examined Monroe's death in 1982 and interviewed Miner but determined there wasn't enough evidence to open a criminal investigation. At the time, Miner mentioned that Greenson had the taped interviews but never said he had notes of them, said Ronald Carroll, a former deputy district attorney who conducted the review. If Miner had mentioned the notes, Carroll said he probably would have sought them through a grand jury subpoena.

08-06-2005, 10:49 AM	#2
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08-06-2005, 06:03 PM	#5
SBTB Geek Smooth Moderator Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 21, 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,004	Didn't she die because of a poisoned enema?... I doubt she wanted to kill herself that way. I'm quite sure the Kennedy bros. were involved somehow.