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Steve M. · 08-03-2005, 12:22 AM

Here are several differences between the two Willy Wonka movies, and how they relate to the book:

In the 1971 movie, Mr. Bucket is dead. In the 2005 movie, Mr. Bucket is alive, just like in the book.

In the '71 movie, a Paraguayan fakes the fifth ticket. A Russian fakes the last ticket in the new movie, but in the book a Russian fakes the second ticket.

The factory tour is October 1 in the '71 movie, February 1 in the new movie, just like in the book.

Augustus is German in both movies, but his nationality is not mentioned in the book. Veruca Salt is English in both movies, while the book also leaves her nationality undetermined. Mike Teavee is from Phoenix in the old movie, from Denver in the new one. Mike Teavee is not identified as an American or anything else in the book.

One parent accompanies a child in both movies. Both parents accompany the child in the book, except for Charlie, who is accompanied only by Grandpa Joe in both movies and the book.

The Oompa-Lompas are African pygmies in the book, and they're from "Loompaland" in both movies. The new movie includes elements of both accounts in it, but only in the book are the Oompa-Loompas a tribe of men, women and children.

In the old movie, only Charlie and Grandpa Joe ride the glass elevator with Wonka; in the new movie, Mike and his father ride it too, and both Mike's parents ride it in the book.

Only in the '71 movie did Charlie and Grandpa Joe steal Fizzy Lifting Drinks - the beverage is mentioned in passing in the book - and risk losing Charlie's lifetime supply of chocolate. I don't even know why this was in the 1971 film. Charlie is supposed to be the good boy.

There was no soda-powered wagon spurting gassy goo in the book or the new movie, as there was in the old movie.

Veruca Salt enters a nut room in the book and the new movie; because the special effects couldn't reproduce the squirrels in the 1971 movie, geese laying golden eggs were substituted instead.

There was no one pretending to be Slugworth to tempt the kids in the book or the new movie, as there was in the old one.

The '71 movie made Wonka the title character. the new movie and the book made Charlie Bucket ("the hero") the title character.

The new movie made up the conflict between Wonka and his dentist dad, and only in the new movie did Wonka offer Charlie the factory on the condition that he leave his family.

whuchutalkinbout · 08-04-2005, 02:49 PM

Cool observations.

I think I'm the only WWonka fan that have not yet gone to see the new release. I'll try to get around to it soon.

Steve M. · 08-04-2005, 11:19 PM

One other difference:

In the new movie and the book, the boat on the chocolate river is a pink Viking-style rowboat. In the old movie, the boat is a paddleboat, called the Wonkatania.

Dude111 · 10-15-2025, 03:15 PM

There is more difference..

THE ORIGNAL 1971 MOVIE IS AWESOME.... The remake is crap! (Not just because I dont care for Mr. Depp)

Steve M. · 10-18-2025, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dude111

There is more difference..

THE ORIGNAL 1971 MOVIE IS AWESOME.... The remake is crap! (Not just because I dont carre for Mr. Depp)

The 2005 remake was more faithful to the 1964 Roald Dahl novel, but, I'm sorry, Gene Wilder is Willy Wonka!

JamesG · 10-18-2025, 12:17 PM

I wouldn’t call the 2005 film a remake, it’s another adaptation of the book.

Dahl hated the original film adaptation because it wasn’t dark enough and it focused on Willy Wonka rather than Charlie. (Book is called Charlie and the Chocolate Factory)

He refused to allow the sequel, Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator, to be made into a film. The ending of the 2005 film uses some parts from that story.

Dude111 · 10-18-2025, 12:37 PM

The book was called Charlie and the chocolate factory?

Im curious. The book came out before the first movie right?

Hmmmmm they didnt stick with the book then........ But the original 1971 movie was goregously beautiful regardless..... I guess it didnt have to stay with the book....

Steve M. · 10-24-2025, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111

The book was called Charlie and the chocolate factory?

Im curious. The book came out before the first movie right?

Hmmmmm they didnt stick with the book then........ But the original 1971 movie was gorgeously beautiful regardless..... I guess it didnt have to stay with the book....

The book first came out in 1964.

Dude111 · 10-25-2025, 01:23 PM

Wow.....I guess they had different ideas for the movie!! (It was MUCH BETTER than the 2nd one)

08-03-2005, 12:22 AM	#1
Steve M. Back on the road to reality Forum Superstar Join Date: Nov 07, 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 33,307	MOVIE SPOILER: Differences between the Willy Wonka Movies Here are several differences between the two Willy Wonka movies, and how they relate to the book: In the 1971 movie, Mr. Bucket is dead. In the 2005 movie, Mr. Bucket is alive, just like in the book. In the '71 movie, a Paraguayan fakes the fifth ticket. A Russian fakes the last ticket in the new movie, but in the book a Russian fakes the second ticket. The factory tour is October 1 in the '71 movie, February 1 in the new movie, just like in the book. Augustus is German in both movies, but his nationality is not mentioned in the book. Veruca Salt is English in both movies, while the book also leaves her nationality undetermined. Mike Teavee is from Phoenix in the old movie, from Denver in the new one. Mike Teavee is not identified as an American or anything else in the book. One parent accompanies a child in both movies. Both parents accompany the child in the book, except for Charlie, who is accompanied only by Grandpa Joe in both movies and the book. The Oompa-Lompas are African pygmies in the book, and they're from "Loompaland" in both movies. The new movie includes elements of both accounts in it, but only in the book are the Oompa-Loompas a tribe of men, women and children. In the old movie, only Charlie and Grandpa Joe ride the glass elevator with Wonka; in the new movie, Mike and his father ride it too, and both Mike's parents ride it in the book. Only in the '71 movie did Charlie and Grandpa Joe steal Fizzy Lifting Drinks - the beverage is mentioned in passing in the book - and risk losing Charlie's lifetime supply of chocolate. I don't even know why this was in the 1971 film. Charlie is supposed to be the good boy. There was no soda-powered wagon spurting gassy goo in the book or the new movie, as there was in the old movie. Veruca Salt enters a nut room in the book and the new movie; because the special effects couldn't reproduce the squirrels in the 1971 movie, geese laying golden eggs were substituted instead. There was no one pretending to be Slugworth to tempt the kids in the book or the new movie, as there was in the old one. The '71 movie made Wonka the title character. the new movie and the book made Charlie Bucket ("the hero") the title character. The new movie made up the conflict between Wonka and his dentist dad, and only in the new movie did Wonka offer Charlie the factory on the condition that he leave his family.
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10-15-2025, 03:15 PM	#4
Dude111 Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 05, 2013 Posts: 36,334	There is more difference.. THE ORIGNAL 1971 MOVIE IS AWESOME.... The remake is crap! (Not just because I dont care for Mr. Depp)
	Last edited by Dude111; 10-18-2025 at 12:34 PM.

08-04-2005, 02:49 PM	#2
whuchutalkinbout Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 19, 2002 Location: South East Posts: 36	Cool observations. I think I'm the only WWonka fan that have not yet gone to see the new release. I'll try to get around to it soon.

08-04-2005, 11:19 PM	#3
Steve M. Back on the road to reality Forum Superstar Join Date: Nov 07, 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 33,307	One other difference: In the new movie and the book, the boat on the chocolate river is a pink Viking-style rowboat. In the old movie, the boat is a paddleboat, called the Wonkatania.

10-18-2025, 12:17 PM	#6
JamesG Freakshow Moderator Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 01, 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 57,127	I wouldn’t call the 2005 film a remake, it’s another adaptation of the book. Dahl hated the original film adaptation because it wasn’t dark enough and it focused on Willy Wonka rather than Charlie. (Book is called Charlie and the Chocolate Factory) He refused to allow the sequel, Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator, to be made into a film. The ending of the 2005 film uses some parts from that story.

10-18-2025, 12:37 PM	#7
Dude111 Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 05, 2013 Posts: 36,334	The book was called Charlie and the chocolate factory? Im curious. The book came out before the first movie right? Hmmmmm they didnt stick with the book then........ But the original 1971 movie was goregously beautiful regardless..... I guess it didnt have to stay with the book....

10-25-2025, 01:23 PM	#9
Dude111 Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 05, 2013 Posts: 36,334	Wow.....I guess they had different ideas for the movie!! (It was MUCH BETTER than the 2nd one)