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TVFactFan · 07-30-2005, 10:42 PM

He grew Up in the Projects himself and probably preferred to see Blacks in a better Financial situation on TV instead of the typical negative portrayal at the time Good Times premeired. I also heard that he hated when this show and Sanford and Son, and Jeffersons used the word N**ger. My mom told me Bill keep his kids away from Good Times when they growing up so they never seen the show until they were adults. Notice how the Cosby Show was the complete Opposite of Good Times

Brian Damage · 07-30-2005, 10:50 PM

Excellent point Solomon. Fat Albert had alot of "jive" talking kids in it. Some he even voiced himself.

Zions Mother · 07-30-2005, 10:54 PM

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He grew Up in the Projects himself and probably preferred to see Blacks in a better Financial situation on TV instead of the typical negative portrayal at the time Good Times premeired. I also heard that he hated when this show and Sanford and Son, and Jeffersons used the word N**ger. My mom told me Bill keep his kids away from Good Times when they growing up so they never seen the show until they were adults. But wasn't Fat Albert somewhat of a negative portrayal of Blacks too like he felt Good Times was in 74?

IMO Bill Cosby wanted the world to see the other side of life for blacks as well. I won't agree with his choice, if that's a fact, of not allowing his children to watch Good Times etc..., but that was his choice for whatever his reasons. It is what it is and it was what it was. Some people are haunted/ashamed to a degree by there past even when they somewhat rise above it. Or the reminders are emotional for them. That's like my father hated and did not want chipped beef in the house. Why, because it was a reminder of how many times they had to eat it growing up. I wouldn't say Fat Albert was negative, it was reality. Kids used more imagination then than they do now. Dr. Phil did a show on how Fat Albert is a good show for children to watch.

TripperFan · 07-30-2005, 10:55 PM

I have to agree with Mr. Cosby there. Maybe its the way I've been conditioned (which is GOOD), but I cannot stand hearing the "N" word used by ANY race - whether it's white or blacks themselves. I'll use white trash, but to me, it still doesn't have the same connotation to it. If they're wanting to bring down barriers, I wish it would stop being used as it is (in movies where one black will say it to another).

And it would have been nice to see a middle class or upper class black family portrayed in the 70s like they have been since.

TVFactFan · 07-30-2005, 10:57 PM

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Excellent point Solomon. Fat Albert had alot of "jive" talking kids in it. Some he even voiced himself.

I never liked Fat Albert. But Bill did had some nerve-lol And I couldn;t understand why he didn't like the Jeffersons but I was able to see that it probably had to do with George being prejudice against Whites and Poor Blacks

Zions Mother · 07-31-2005, 01:11 AM

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I have to agree with Mr. Cosby there. Maybe its the way I've been conditioned (which is GOOD), but I cannot stand hearing the "N" word used by ANY race - whether it's white or blacks themselves. I'll use white trash, but to me, it still doesn't have the same connotation to it. If they're wanting to bring down barriers, I wish it would stop being used as it is (in movies where one black will say it to another).

And it would have been nice to see a middle class or upper class black family portrayed in the 70s like they have been since.

The "N" word being so loosely used is a travesty. It is a variant of Negro but became a hostile epithet because of its use among whites as a display of racial hatred. Some have suggested that the epithet as a description of an ignorant person of any color. On the other hand white trash is an epithet that has not changed from it's original meaning which is the difference.

In movies, comedy, songs etc....they are using in most cases the "N" word as a variant.

Many people are uncomfortable and even angered by the word and if the word only had a history as a variant and not as an epithet, maybe that feeling wouldn't exist.

It would probably be best if the word no longer exist, maybe one day it will be extinct.

Brian Damage · 07-31-2005, 01:14 AM

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It would probably be best if the word no longer exist, maybe one day it will be extinct.

Not as long as Quentin Tarantino is making movies.

Zions Mother · 07-31-2005, 01:15 AM

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Not as long as Quentin Tarantino is making movies.

Well, maybe after he dies.

Ireneparalegal · 07-31-2005, 05:25 PM

Really, Dr. Phil did a show on Fat Albert? What was said I am curious???

seventies_sitcoms · 07-31-2005, 06:42 PM

I'm surprised Dr. Phil didn't give Fat Albert some of his weight loss bars. I don't like Dr. Phil. He is such a know it all. I also never cared about Fat Albert. I also hated that Brown Hornet cartoon that was on there too.

Brian Damage · 07-31-2005, 06:48 PM

Brown Hornet....I totally forgot about that cartoon.

Zions Mother · 07-31-2005, 06:53 PM

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Really, Dr. Phil did a show on Fat Albert? What was said I am curious???

It's been awhile, during the time the Fat Albert Movie came out. He had some of the cast members and Bill Cosby on the show. In the audience were alot of kids who in one way or another related to one or more of the kids from the show. At the end of the program Dr. Phil and Bill gave out scholarships so that these kids could attend college. If I can recall, I think the kids were also accompanied by their parents. There were quite a few kids I think at least 10 if not more.

Dr. Thong · 07-31-2005, 07:55 PM

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I'm surprised Dr. Phil didn't give Fat Albert some of his weight loss bars. I don't like Dr. Phil. He is such a know it all. I also never cared about Fat Albert. I also hated that Brown Hornet cartoon that was on there too.

I like Dr. Phil, but I think it's a bit twisted that a heavy guy like him had a best-selling weight loss book. I'm heavy myself and I would think twice before buying Dr. Phil's book.

Tweety · 07-31-2005, 10:05 PM

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Brown Hornet....I totally forgot about that cartoon.

The Brown Hornet was a spin-off of Fat Albert...wait, let's not go through that spin-off thing again!

Ireneparalegal · 07-31-2005, 10:11 PM

I like the way Dr. Phil looks. I hate skinny men. I like it when a man has meat on him, just like Dr. Phil. I dated a man once, he was thin. Man oh man, it was like hugging JJ Evans. Yuck!!!!

07-30-2005, 10:42 PM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,062	I think Bill Cosby's main reason for not liking this show was the fact that... He grew Up in the Projects himself and probably preferred to see Blacks in a better Financial situation on TV instead of the typical negative portrayal at the time Good Times premeired. I also heard that he hated when this show and Sanford and Son, and Jeffersons used the word N**ger. My mom told me Bill keep his kids away from Good Times when they growing up so they never seen the show until they were adults. Notice how the Cosby Show was the complete Opposite of Good Times

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TripperFan In God's Arms Now Forum Star Join Date: Sep 14, 2003 Location: Heartbreak Ridge Posts: 12,086	I have to agree with Mr. Cosby there. Maybe its the way I've been conditioned (which is GOOD), but I cannot stand hearing the "N" word used by ANY race - whether it's white or blacks themselves. I'll use white trash, but to me, it still doesn't have the same connotation to it. If they're wanting to bring down barriers, I wish it would stop being used as it is (in movies where one black will say it to another). And it would have been nice to see a middle class or upper class black family portrayed in the 70s like they have been since.
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Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	Excellent point Solomon. Fat Albert had alot of "jive" talking kids in it. Some he even voiced himself.

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Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	Really, Dr. Phil did a show on Fat Albert? What was said I am curious???

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seventies_sitcoms * Senior Member Join Date: Jan 09, 2005 Posts: 2,244	I'm surprised Dr. Phil didn't give Fat Albert some of his weight loss bars. I don't like Dr. Phil. He is such a know it all. I also never cared about Fat Albert. I also hated that Brown Hornet cartoon that was on there too.

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Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	Brown Hornet....I totally forgot about that cartoon.

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Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	I like the way Dr. Phil looks. I hate skinny men. I like it when a man has meat on him, just like Dr. Phil. I dated a man once, he was thin. Man oh man, it was like hugging JJ Evans. Yuck!!!!