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JaneTVFan · 07-30-2005, 09:45 PM

The Season Two disc set is selling like hotcakes, so a Season Three set should follow. But I wouldn't count on that happening too soon because I'm not sure Fox is prepared. Something I noticed on the Season Two set is that all the new materials -- interviews and bonus stuff -- was produced (according to the copyright date) in 2002. That's the year the Season One set came out. So they must have already been preparing the Season Two set for production at the time they were about to launch Season One, thinking it would soon follow. But the Season One set flopped (mainly due to bad marketing), so I guess this Season Two stuff has been sitting on the shelf since then. They decided to finally release it this year, not having any idea how well it might do. My guess is they probably haven't get anything together yet for Season Three, wanting this time to see how well Season Two does before they go into motion on Season Three. It seems pretty obvious, with the brisk sales of Season Two, that Season Three will be launched. The question is simply how long will it take before we get to see it, because they probably haven't even started preparing anything for that release.

Kristen · 07-30-2005, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneTVFan

The Season Two disc set is selling like hotcakes, so a Season Three set should follow. But I wouldn't count on that happening too soon because I'm not sure Fox is prepared. Something I noticed on the Season Two set is that all the new materials -- interviews and bonus stuff -- was produced (according to the copyright date) in 2002. That's the year the Season One set came out. So they must have already been preparing the Season Two set for production at the time they were about to launch Season One, thinking it would soon follow. But the Season One set flopped (mainly due to bad marketing), so I guess this Season Two stuff has been sitting on the shelf since then. They decided to finally release it this year, not having any idea how well it might do. My guess is they probably haven't get anything together yet for Season Three, wanting this time to see how well Season Two does before they go into motion on Season Three. It seems pretty obvious, with the brisk sales of Season Two, that Season Three will be launched. The question is simply how long will it take before we get to see it, because they probably haven't even started preparing anything for that release.

That's a really good point. But hopefully the sales of Season 2 will send a message to Fox, and they'll get started on bonus material for S3 soon! I really hope we get all the seasons on DVD eventually. I think it's just a matter of time.

Kristen

Lolac · 07-31-2005, 12:41 PM

I was a little surpised at how lame the S2 extras are. I like the "Moore on Sunday" segment, but that was obviously done in the 70s. The other stuff, produced by the Asners, was just awful, especially that Newsbeat thing. Sheesh! Still, I love the episodes and have been enjoying those and I did like to see the Emmy segments also.

Lolac

Joker85 · 07-31-2005, 02:52 PM

The special features are nice and all, and it would be great to have more stuff for season 3, but really, if I could just get the episodes I'd be happy.

TV DVD Fan · 08-01-2005, 03:15 PM

I read in an article season two was produced almost simultaneously with season 1 (the sets), so that explains the 2002 copyright. Fox is probably making millions with season two now, so one of the idiots will be sure to realize that releasing season two wasn't so bad after all and maybe they should give season three a-go.

pat

robyrob · 08-02-2005, 08:32 PM

i think that FOX took a big loss on Season 1, and no matter how well Season 2 sells, they will probably release Season three without very much in the way of extra features... the features for S2 were all done a long time ago, so they were just thrown on there, FOX probably wont want to waste any money on extras.

Not that it matters that much to me - as long as the episodes are complete I'm happy, anything else is just icing on the cake!

Lolac · 08-02-2005, 08:42 PM

I agree, especially since the extras on S2 are so lame. I finished watching the episodes today and they are so great!

Lolac

David VP · 08-03-2005, 02:47 AM

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I agree, especially since the extras on S2 are so lame.

I certainly respect Lolac's opinion on the matter of the MTM-2 bonus supplements -- but I totally disagree with the assessment as to their supposed "lameness".

The only purely "lame" special feature, IMHO, is the "Newsbeat" segment, and even THAT item is slightly redeemed in credibility via a very clever and well-done "re-created MTM closing theme montage".

All the other MTM-2 bonuses are very good, IMO --

1.) A 57-minute documentary (a logical extension of the Season-One featurette, with the interviews here obviously being done on the exact same day as that first-season "Making-Of" feature).

2.) Two Emmy Awards clips from May 1972, with Valerie Harper and Ed Asner (and Sally Struthers of AITF to boot).

3.) A very humorous "Mad" parody/spoof on TMTMS (and very lengthy as well). It's excellent on a BIG-screen TV; heaven help those with a puny 19-incher, however; I'm doubting that'd be fun to read the small text.

4.) A small Photo Gallery.

5.) Three Audio Commentary Tracks, inc. the voices of Murray and Lou.

6.) Opening Theme Comparisons/Karaoke.

7.) Trivia Game.

8.) And by far the best MTM bonus on either the S.1 or S.2 boxed set -- The "Moore On Sunday" 21-minute featurette, with gobs of behind-the-camera footage (circa May 1973) of Mary, Valerie, and crew filming the new fourth-season Main Title sequence. (It cost $15,000 to produce those {approx.} 45 seconds of film; and the Director {David Davis} worked on it for FREE, too!) :-)

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The above amounts to some very nice supplementals, which are deserving of much more than the word "lame", to be sure.

My 2-cents' worth of MTM food for thought.

ClassicTVGal · 08-03-2005, 02:27 PM

I like the extras myself, the Trivia Games are always neat. I love the Newsbeat thing and the Moore on Sunday. And even the Theme Song for all Seasons are awesome.

joefriday · 08-18-2005, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by robyrob

i think that FOX took a big loss on Season 1, and no matter how well Season 2 sells, they will probably release Season three without very much in the way of extra features... the features for S2 were all done a long time ago, so they were just thrown on there, FOX probably wont want to waste any money on extras.

Not that it matters that much to me - as long as the episodes are complete I'm happy, anything else is just icing on the cake!

I agree too! I can live without the extras -- just give us the episodes!

TV DVD Fan · 08-18-2005, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by robyrob

i think that FOX took a big loss on Season 1, and no matter how well Season 2 sells, they will probably release Season three without very much in the way of extra features... the features for S2 were all done a long time ago, so they were just thrown on there, FOX probably wont want to waste any money on extras.

Not that it matters that much to me - as long as the episodes are complete I'm happy, anything else is just icing on the cake!

Well robyrob, they did come out with extras for TBNS S2, so I expect the same for MTM S3.

pat

PZelda · 08-22-2005, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TV DVD Fan

I read in an article season two was produced almost simultaneously with season 1 (the sets), so that explains the 2002 copyright. Fox is probably making millions with season two now, so one of the idiots will be sure to realize that releasing season two wasn't so bad after all and maybe they should give season three a-go.

pat

I didn't pick up MTM S1 until recently and when I pulled it out, there was a small flier advertising the S2 release, which was scheduled to come out in March of 2003.

Apparently, they were going to put out S2 in '03, but they pushed back the date...

The Obsolete Man · 08-30-2005, 01:59 AM

Yeah, you could say that...

Apparently, MTM Season 1 was a bomb. There were many factors to that, of course... the cost of the extras, the restoration, and the kinda overinflated price of the set.

However, at this point, I'd be happy to see a remastered and restored season 3 that looks as good as 1 and 2, without extras. As long as the episodes themselves were out released uncut.

TJAMES03 · 08-30-2005, 06:04 AM

MTM is one of the few shows that (IMO) got better (though the early seasons were good too) as the seasons went on. Does anyone else think this?

TV DVD Fan · 08-30-2005, 04:45 PM

Definately.

pat

07-30-2005, 09:45 PM	#1
JaneTVFan Member Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 06, 2001 Posts: 641	Season Three: Don't Get Your Hopes Up Right Now The Season Two disc set is selling like hotcakes, so a Season Three set should follow. But I wouldn't count on that happening too soon because I'm not sure Fox is prepared. Something I noticed on the Season Two set is that all the new materials -- interviews and bonus stuff -- was produced (according to the copyright date) in 2002. That's the year the Season One set came out. So they must have already been preparing the Season Two set for production at the time they were about to launch Season One, thinking it would soon follow. But the Season One set flopped (mainly due to bad marketing), so I guess this Season Two stuff has been sitting on the shelf since then. They decided to finally release it this year, not having any idea how well it might do. My guess is they probably haven't get anything together yet for Season Three, wanting this time to see how well Season Two does before they go into motion on Season Three. It seems pretty obvious, with the brisk sales of Season Two, that Season Three will be launched. The question is simply how long will it take before we get to see it, because they probably haven't even started preparing anything for that release.

08-01-2005, 03:15 PM	#5
TV DVD Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 07, 2005 Posts: 2,602	I read in an article season two was produced almost simultaneously with season 1 (the sets), so that explains the 2002 copyright. Fox is probably making millions with season two now, so one of the idiots will be sure to realize that releasing season two wasn't so bad after all and maybe they should give season three a-go. pat
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08-30-2005, 01:59 AM	#13
The Obsolete Man Member Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 18, 2000 Location: Truth or Consequences, New Mexico, Earth Prime Posts: 567	Yeah, you could say that... Apparently, MTM Season 1 was a bomb. There were many factors to that, of course... the cost of the extras, the restoration, and the kinda overinflated price of the set. However, at this point, I'd be happy to see a remastered and restored season 3 that looks as good as 1 and 2, without extras. As long as the episodes themselves were out released uncut.
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07-31-2005, 12:41 PM	#3
Lolac Dolce far niente, Carissima! Senior Member Join Date: Jan 02, 2003 Location: Fairfax Station, VA Posts: 1,487	I was a little surpised at how lame the S2 extras are. I like the "Moore on Sunday" segment, but that was obviously done in the 70s. The other stuff, produced by the Asners, was just awful, especially that Newsbeat thing. Sheesh! Still, I love the episodes and have been enjoying those and I did like to see the Emmy segments also. Lolac

07-31-2005, 02:52 PM	#4
Joker85 Back in St. Olaf... Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 18, 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 481	The special features are nice and all, and it would be great to have more stuff for season 3, but really, if I could just get the episodes I'd be happy.

08-02-2005, 08:42 PM	#7
Lolac Dolce far niente, Carissima! Senior Member Join Date: Jan 02, 2003 Location: Fairfax Station, VA Posts: 1,487	I agree, especially since the extras on S2 are so lame. I finished watching the episodes today and they are so great! Lolac

08-03-2005, 02:27 PM	#9
ClassicTVGal Traveler Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 26, 2004 Posts: 3,457	I like the extras myself, the Trivia Games are always neat. I love the Newsbeat thing and the Moore on Sunday. And even the Theme Song for all Seasons are awesome.

08-30-2005, 06:04 AM	#14
TJAMES03 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 25, 2005 Posts: 193	MTM is one of the few shows that (IMO) got better (though the early seasons were good too) as the seasons went on. Does anyone else think this?

08-30-2005, 04:45 PM	#15
TV DVD Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 07, 2005 Posts: 2,602	Definately. pat