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PrettyinPink55 · 07-29-2005, 12:33 AM

Hi everyone,
I just wanted to know if there were any updates on the Kathy Page case, where she was found dead a few yards from her house and her estranged husband was the prime suspect.
I also wanted to know what y'all thought of the case. I personally thought that the husband was guilty.

Thank you in advance.

Kane · 07-29-2005, 06:13 PM

Her case is profiled at the Parents Against Corruption & Cover-up web site (thepacc.org), along with some other cases featured on UM. This includes the 1991 murder of Tommy Burkett, whose mother, Beth George, co-founded the site (she died of cancer in 2003, without ever having a resolution to her son's death).

Going back to Kathy Fulton Page, I think her husband Steve was the culprit. It's no secret that the homicide case was bungled. My suspicion is that if it weren't for Steve Page's personal connections with the police, Kathy's murder would not have been mishandled. Nor would it be unsolved.

Steve Page rubbed me the wrong way. In the UM interview, he referred to himself in third person when he claimed to be innocent. This behavior struck me as arrogant.

Admittedly, there isn't enough evidence to charge him (or anyone else) with Kathy's death. It's one thing to suspect or know that someone is guilty, but it's another to prove it.

DarkDante · 07-29-2005, 06:47 PM

I'll go the other way - I think he's 100% innocent of the crime. I would be offended too if I had been accused of killing my own wife even if we were estranged. Imagine having your kids wondering whether or not their father murdered their mother? - That would kind of piss me off too and cause me to be a bit arrogant or indignent.

I think Steve Page's reaction is normal given the circumstances. I mean from what the segment displayed he wasn't the one who wanted out of the marriage with Kathy but the other way around, his wife leaves him, is off having an affair on another side of town with another guy and then when she turns up dead he automatically gets the finger of blame pointed at him. I'm sorry that would make me mad too. I do hope that whomever killed Kathy Page is caught but in this scenerio I just don't see the cover up that I do in cases like "The Boys On The Tracks" and "Tommy Burkett". - It makes good copy to point the finger at Steve Page and say the jealous estranged husband flew into a violent rage and killed his wife when he found out about the affair. It would make a great "Lifetime Afternoon Movie" but in my mind if we are talking about reality (besides some obvious questions that need to be answered specifically did Steve and Kathy make love that evening) I would file this right beside Sammy Wheeler and the three fools who spent an entire segment and probably a decent amount of money creating the segment just so they could point fingers on who killed Sammy Wheeler.

In the end it was discovered Sammy was killed by a stranger in a random act of violence. Sure there was motives for all three people featured in the Wheeler case to murder Sammy but in the end I wasn't surprised it was a random killing - I wouldn't bolt out of my chair if there was an "update" to the Page case stating the exact same thing happened here.

Later.

Kemistry · 07-29-2005, 07:43 PM

I never knew there was an update to the Sammy Wheeler case, thanks for posting that and I do agree his twin brother, Bob Bean & Pat Snead spent the better part of the entire segment throwing the blame from one to the other and the comments were nothing short of hilarious. His brother was saying that Bob Bean was the culprit, Bob saying Pat was guilty and Pat saying it was his twin brother because she was told that he was secretly in love with her,please..

hayes · 11-14-2005, 03:15 PM

this is one of those cases that I always wonder about STILL

MetalHybrid · 11-16-2005, 06:34 PM

I have not seen this story in a while. Did Steve page have demeanor to him that was similar or comparible to that of Chad Noe or Paul Pollis? I don't recall that he did.

PrettyinPink55 · 11-16-2005, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MetalHybrid

I have not seen this story in a while. Did Steve page have demeanor to him that was similar or comparible to that of Chad Noe or Paul Pollis? I don't recall that he did.

Well, based on all the evidence that was presented in the segment, all fingers pointed to him. I think he had the motive, and the means, and he was with her the night she was found dead. To me, it all adds up to him being guilty. I think the only reason he got off was because of his parents' connections with the police department.

Guardian · 08-31-2010, 02:48 AM

For some reason, I don't know why, I want to believe this guy is innocent. I think this is a case that even UM didn't do much in the way of being balanced. The segment seemed geared toward blaming the husband. I would like to see a more balanced look at the case. I am not saying he is innocent, but something doesn't seem right about the way it all went down. Random killers typically don't stage accident scenes as in this case. It was someone that knew Kathy I think. Maybe looking at other suspects might be a good idea. If the husband is guillty or not, it doesn't appear that much effort went into the case either way.

mozartpc27 · 10-31-2010, 06:06 PM

This guy is guilty.

Guardian · 11-04-2010, 01:36 AM

BUMP. Haven't seen anything on this in a while. Anyone have any further thoughts? Does everyone feel that this guy is guilty?

I don't know. I can't decide myself. I do feel that the UM segment was not very balanced. have there been any other shows that have profile this crime? Does anyone know?

TracyLynnS · 11-04-2010, 10:07 AM

I'd like to see the segment again, especially since everyone seems to be split on their opinions with this case.

From what I recall, my impression was that the estranged husband was guilty. They were no longer living together. According to Kathy's sister they hadn't been sleeping together in a while. Kathy was going out that night and Steve came to her house to watch their kids.

Steve said that Kathy was getting ready for her date when he arrived. She had just gotten out of the shower when he asked her to have sex and she agreed. I don't believe that, and neither does her family. Kathy and Steve were divorcing and the romance was over. IMO, she would not get cleaned and dressed up for a date, yet sleep with her estranged husband just before heading out the door to go sleep with her boyfriend. Her sister also stated that Kathy would not have done that.

Kathy left for her date at about 11:30pm. Less than 4 hours later, she was found dead 300 feet from her house. Supposedly, she died in a car accident on her way home from the date, yet she no longer had her make up or jewelry on, was strangled, and had a broken nose. There was blood on her underclothes but not her outer clothing.

I suppose one can claim that she showered at her boyfriend's house after their date, but then where was the jewelry she had been wearing that night? IIRC, it was found back at her house. She had to have come home from her date and removed her jewelry. If that happened, Steve was the last person to see her alive.

I believe the car accident was a completely staged scene. It was set up so it looked like she died in a terrible accident, but the car was 300 feet from her house and was barely damaged. She had no immediately obvious wounds, and the accident was so minor that the drink in the cup holder didn't even spill. That's just not a hard enough impact to cause death, imo. Besides, the cause of death was strangulation, and that definitely doesn't happen in a fender bender.

In the car, her feet were not toward the pedals, as if she were driving, but they were tucked back. She wasn't wearing a seatbelt but she was not thrown forward. I'm assuming that the position of the car would have indicated that the drink, her feet, and her body should have been thrown forward. The car was found with the front end pointing downward in a deep ditch.

When the police went to her house to talk to the husband, the first thing he did was indicate toward the scene of the accident, yet he supposedly had no knowledge that Kathy's body was just down the street. Supposedly, as far as he knew, she was still on her date. He then began alternating between nearly hysterical crying fits and complete composure with no sign of tears.

Among other things, I think the husband knew too much about the death scene ahead of time and lied about the sex being consensual. Kathy's boyfriend passed a polygraph and convinced the police that he was not involved in her murder. IMO, Steve Page raped and murdered his estranged wife because she was leaving him, moving on with her life, and had a new relationship with another man.

truthbtold · 01-13-2011, 03:27 PM

Just saw this case today on Spike. I must say, they should look more into the "Italian" family that moved into town. Clearly, if they are Italian, then they are suspects in this case, right? I mean, they must be part of the local "Mafia" as Steve put it. Why don't the police explore this mafia connection Steve speaks of??? SARCASM

Local Mafia!!!! LOL!!! Give me a break man. The fact that he even posed that theory implies his guilt to me.

cocytus · 01-13-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by truthbtold

Just saw this case today on Spike. I must say, they should look more into the "Italian" family that moved into town. Clearly, if they are Italian, then they are suspects in this case, right? I mean, they must be part of the local "Mafia" as Steve put it. Why don't the police explore this mafia connection Steve speaks of??? SARCASM

Local Mafia!!!! LOL!!! Give me a break man. The fact that he even posed that theory implies his guilt to me.

If they were in fact "Mafia" then it was rather unwise for Steve to have accused them of a crime, whether they did it or not.

As far as the two having consensual sex...stranger things have happened. I dated a woman (briefly) years ago that decided that her having sex w/ her ex-husband wasn't cheating. Needless to say, we had a disagreement on that point.

Honestly, given how stupid Steve appears to be and given how much circumstantial evidence points towards his guilt, I'm surprised that this one hasn't been solved before now.
This doesn't speak too highly of the DA's office in Beaumont, TX.

Clockworkhigh · 01-13-2011, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TracyLynnS

Steve said that Kathy was getting ready for her date when he arrived. She had just gotten out of the shower when he asked her to have sex and she agreed. I don't believe that, and neither does her family. Kathy and Steve were divorcing and the romance was over. IMO, she would not get cleaned and dressed up for a date, yet sleep with her estranged husband just before heading out the door to go sleep with her boyfriend. Her sister also stated that Kathy would not have done that.

I found that a little funny. Look, if my sister-law came on the air to tell the world what she doesn't think her sister (my wife) would do in the "bedroom" I think she'd be way off! Who here thinks their sister in law can predict what her sister will do in the heat of a passionate moment with you? I have my doubts. I mean come on, would Steve and Kathy be the first seperated couple in the history of the world jumping on the opportunity of one of them coming out of the shower and re-kindling a little..........magic? Of course not. This is perfectly normal.

Plus no family member wants to picture their sister making love to her soon to be ex-husband and a new boyfriend in the same night. I get that, but in the real world, this happens.

Secondly, Steve would have to be dumb to dump the body so close to his house. That's poor planning. I don't really buy it.

Also Kathy's sister stated that Steve wasn't at the house to keep an eye on Kathy but it was more for the kids. In other words, Steve wasn't too concerned about Kathy going out with another man, this coming from Kathy's sister!

Their relationship seemed much like any other one from a freshly seperated couple. Steve is a man keep in mind, he just made love to his ex-wife. For lack of a better word, he is........relieved. Ladies you'll understand this and guys you'll definitely know this but a guy is in a more relaxed and carefree state of mind after sex. Is this a time to commit murder? But maybe Steve was glad to have just gotten what he quickly wanted (consensually) and liked the idea that another guy had to deal with her issues (honestly we don't know what kind of wife Kathy was behind closed doors).

Lastly, I know it probably means nothing, but Steve was dressed up in a suit and tie in the interview. No one does that. Don't get me wrong, there have been tons of guilty men who walk around in suits all day but you get the idea that Steve could at least show some class and if he wasn't a dressy kind of guy he wouldn't have done that. There is a reason psychologically that a person who wears a leather jacket and chains to court is more likely to be found guilty than a clean cut guy with a suit.

And the r*pe thing seems fishy. How could that be done without the kids waking up? That's gambling for you.

perhapsitscasey · 02-28-2011, 06:24 PM

Just watched this segment on Lifetime. IMO, the car crash was staged. There's just no way a person in a car could run off the road into a ditch and remain seated with no seatbelt and no feet on the pedals. The drink wasn't even spilled! I don't have anything special to contribute here, but I agree that UM didn't do a good job showing both sides of the story. As far as Steve's innocence, I don't think it's an open and shut case. The post before mine brought up some interesting points.

Did they ever do any DNA testing to see if Steve had sex and/or assaulted his wife? I know they said her last sex partner had had a vasectomy, and so had Steve. That, however, is a fairly common surgery among men Kim's age. If they did test the DNA, did they run it against the DNA database of convicted criminals? Was this compromised by her possible recent shower? (No jewelry, no makeup). This crime happened in 1991, was that before DNA testing became prevalent?

Any updates?

Just read the Wiki site, it says Kathy's father, James Fulton paid for the segment. That may be why it seems so biased. I'm not sure how reliable this Wiki is though.

07-29-2005, 12:33 AM	#1
PrettyinPink55 Member Forum Celebrity Join Date: Feb 11, 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 24,601	Kathy Page case Hi everyone, I just wanted to know if there were any updates on the Kathy Page case, where she was found dead a few yards from her house and her estranged husband was the prime suspect. I also wanted to know what y'all thought of the case. I personally thought that the husband was guilty. Thank you in advance.
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07-29-2005, 06:47 PM	#3
DarkDante Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 27, 2002 Posts: 1,569	Okay I'll bite I'll go the other way - I think he's 100% innocent of the crime. I would be offended too if I had been accused of killing my own wife even if we were estranged. Imagine having your kids wondering whether or not their father murdered their mother? - That would kind of piss me off too and cause me to be a bit arrogant or indignent. I think Steve Page's reaction is normal given the circumstances. I mean from what the segment displayed he wasn't the one who wanted out of the marriage with Kathy but the other way around, his wife leaves him, is off having an affair on another side of town with another guy and then when she turns up dead he automatically gets the finger of blame pointed at him. I'm sorry that would make me mad too. I do hope that whomever killed Kathy Page is caught but in this scenerio I just don't see the cover up that I do in cases like "The Boys On The Tracks" and "Tommy Burkett". - It makes good copy to point the finger at Steve Page and say the jealous estranged husband flew into a violent rage and killed his wife when he found out about the affair. It would make a great "Lifetime Afternoon Movie" but in my mind if we are talking about reality (besides some obvious questions that need to be answered specifically did Steve and Kathy make love that evening) I would file this right beside Sammy Wheeler and the three fools who spent an entire segment and probably a decent amount of money creating the segment just so they could point fingers on who killed Sammy Wheeler. In the end it was discovered Sammy was killed by a stranger in a random act of violence. Sure there was motives for all three people featured in the Wheeler case to murder Sammy but in the end I wasn't surprised it was a random killing - I wouldn't bolt out of my chair if there was an "update" to the Page case stating the exact same thing happened here. Later.

07-29-2005, 07:43 PM	#4
Kemistry Mysterious Intrigue Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 16, 2005 Location: Outside Your Window... Posts: 339	I never knew there was an update to the Sammy Wheeler case, thanks for posting that and I do agree his twin brother, Bob Bean & Pat Snead spent the better part of the entire segment throwing the blame from one to the other and the comments were nothing short of hilarious. His brother was saying that Bob Bean was the culprit, Bob saying Pat was guilty and Pat saying it was his twin brother because she was told that he was secretly in love with her,please..
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08-31-2010, 02:48 AM	#8
Guardian Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 19, 2010 Location: WA Posts: 522	For some reason, I don't know why, I want to believe this guy is innocent. I think this is a case that even UM didn't do much in the way of being balanced. The segment seemed geared toward blaming the husband. I would like to see a more balanced look at the case. I am not saying he is innocent, but something doesn't seem right about the way it all went down. Random killers typically don't stage accident scenes as in this case. It was someone that knew Kathy I think. Maybe looking at other suspects might be a good idea. If the husband is guillty or not, it doesn't appear that much effort went into the case either way.
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10-31-2010, 06:06 PM	#9
mozartpc27 Vigilante Logician Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 09, 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 924	This guy is guilty.
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07-29-2005, 06:13 PM	#2
Kane Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 07, 2001 Location: MA, United States Posts: 3,367	Her case is profiled at the Parents Against Corruption & Cover-up web site (thepacc.org), along with some other cases featured on UM. This includes the 1991 murder of Tommy Burkett, whose mother, Beth George, co-founded the site (she died of cancer in 2003, without ever having a resolution to her son's death). Going back to Kathy Fulton Page, I think her husband Steve was the culprit. It's no secret that the homicide case was bungled. My suspicion is that if it weren't for Steve Page's personal connections with the police, Kathy's murder would not have been mishandled. Nor would it be unsolved. Steve Page rubbed me the wrong way. In the UM interview, he referred to himself in third person when he claimed to be innocent. This behavior struck me as arrogant. Admittedly, there isn't enough evidence to charge him (or anyone else) with Kathy's death. It's one thing to suspect or know that someone is guilty, but it's another to prove it.

11-14-2005, 03:15 PM	#5
hayes D R e A M Occasional Poster Join Date: May 31, 2005 Posts: 59	this is one of those cases that I always wonder about STILL

11-16-2005, 06:34 PM	#6
MetalHybrid Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 10, 2005 Location: Campbell(near San Jose), CA Posts: 141	I have not seen this story in a while. Did Steve page have demeanor to him that was similar or comparible to that of Chad Noe or Paul Pollis? I don't recall that he did.

11-04-2010, 01:36 AM	#10
Guardian Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 19, 2010 Location: WA Posts: 522	BUMP. Haven't seen anything on this in a while. Anyone have any further thoughts? Does everyone feel that this guy is guilty? I don't know. I can't decide myself. I do feel that the UM segment was not very balanced. have there been any other shows that have profile this crime? Does anyone know?

11-04-2010, 10:07 AM	#11
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	I'd like to see the segment again, especially since everyone seems to be split on their opinions with this case. From what I recall, my impression was that the estranged husband was guilty. They were no longer living together. According to Kathy's sister they hadn't been sleeping together in a while. Kathy was going out that night and Steve came to her house to watch their kids. Steve said that Kathy was getting ready for her date when he arrived. She had just gotten out of the shower when he asked her to have sex and she agreed. I don't believe that, and neither does her family. Kathy and Steve were divorcing and the romance was over. IMO, she would not get cleaned and dressed up for a date, yet sleep with her estranged husband just before heading out the door to go sleep with her boyfriend. Her sister also stated that Kathy would not have done that. Kathy left for her date at about 11:30pm. Less than 4 hours later, she was found dead 300 feet from her house. Supposedly, she died in a car accident on her way home from the date, yet she no longer had her make up or jewelry on, was strangled, and had a broken nose. There was blood on her underclothes but not her outer clothing. I suppose one can claim that she showered at her boyfriend's house after their date, but then where was the jewelry she had been wearing that night? IIRC, it was found back at her house. She had to have come home from her date and removed her jewelry. If that happened, Steve was the last person to see her alive. I believe the car accident was a completely staged scene. It was set up so it looked like she died in a terrible accident, but the car was 300 feet from her house and was barely damaged. She had no immediately obvious wounds, and the accident was so minor that the drink in the cup holder didn't even spill. That's just not a hard enough impact to cause death, imo. Besides, the cause of death was strangulation, and that definitely doesn't happen in a fender bender. In the car, her feet were not toward the pedals, as if she were driving, but they were tucked back. She wasn't wearing a seatbelt but she was not thrown forward. I'm assuming that the position of the car would have indicated that the drink, her feet, and her body should have been thrown forward. The car was found with the front end pointing downward in a deep ditch. When the police went to her house to talk to the husband, the first thing he did was indicate toward the scene of the accident, yet he supposedly had no knowledge that Kathy's body was just down the street. Supposedly, as far as he knew, she was still on her date. He then began alternating between nearly hysterical crying fits and complete composure with no sign of tears. Among other things, I think the husband knew too much about the death scene ahead of time and lied about the sex being consensual. Kathy's boyfriend passed a polygraph and convinced the police that he was not involved in her murder. IMO, Steve Page raped and murdered his estranged wife because she was leaving him, moving on with her life, and had a new relationship with another man.

01-13-2011, 03:27 PM	#12
truthbtold Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 16, 2010 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 84	Just saw this case today on Spike. I must say, they should look more into the "Italian" family that moved into town. Clearly, if they are Italian, then they are suspects in this case, right? I mean, they must be part of the local "Mafia" as Steve put it. Why don't the police explore this mafia connection Steve speaks of??? SARCASM Local Mafia!!!! LOL!!! Give me a break man. The fact that he even posed that theory implies his guilt to me.
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02-28-2011, 06:24 PM	#15
perhapsitscasey Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 24, 2011 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 8	Just watched this segment on Lifetime. IMO, the car crash was staged. There's just no way a person in a car could run off the road into a ditch and remain seated with no seatbelt and no feet on the pedals. The drink wasn't even spilled! I don't have anything special to contribute here, but I agree that UM didn't do a good job showing both sides of the story. As far as Steve's innocence, I don't think it's an open and shut case. The post before mine brought up some interesting points. Did they ever do any DNA testing to see if Steve had sex and/or assaulted his wife? I know they said her last sex partner had had a vasectomy, and so had Steve. That, however, is a fairly common surgery among men Kim's age. If they did test the DNA, did they run it against the DNA database of convicted criminals? Was this compromised by her possible recent shower? (No jewelry, no makeup). This crime happened in 1991, was that before DNA testing became prevalent? Any updates? Just read the Wiki site, it says Kathy's father, James Fulton paid for the segment. That may be why it seems so biased. I'm not sure how reliable this Wiki is though.