any Rockstar INXS fans?

[Dean Winchester]

I'm surprised that there is so much obsession over American Idol in here, but NOBODY seems to care about Rockstar:INXS. I hate all things Idol (even though I did like Kelly Clarkson's "Since U Been Gone") but yet this show is a bit more fun, because it's about the ROCK STAR life, not the POP STAR.

It's just kinda funny to see people so obsessed over people on a reality show that three months earlier, they never knew existed. Yet a reality talent contest about a group that were scoring hits when Kelly, Fantasia and Carrie were in kindergarten gets the ignore treatment here. I don't know if any of the Idol's will have a song as famous as Need You Tonight or What You Need.

[vienna waits]

posts like these are rather condescending and i'm not sure what kind of response you want. sorry we're not as cool as you?

[EmoJoe]

Originally Posted by vienna waits

posts like these are rather condescending and i'm not sure what kind of response you want. sorry we're not as cool as you?

Yeah seriously. We're allowed to have a different opinion then you.

[¤I Love Clay Aiken¤]

I like American Idol for 3 reasons:
1. the music
2. the people
3. Ryan Seacrest

I prefer pop music over rock, country, etc. and I like the chemistry between the contestants, judges, and Ryan. AI is more of a 'family' reality show, with the tour and all. Its just all around fun.

[gidgetgrl]

I like both shows. Rockstart because of INXS..but I was also a big fan of Kelly Clarkson the first season of AI.

[Dean Winchester]

Originally Posted by vienna waits

posts like these are rather condescending and i'm not sure what kind of response you want. sorry we're not as cool as you?

I was just saying that it's funny that people are so obsessed with Idol, yet another reality talent show comes along and nobody is buzzing about that, but yet they're continuing to talk about Carrie and the sort. I was wondering why people haven't been giving Rockstar INXS a chance while they're being held over in anticipation for the next AI season

[EmoJoe]

Originally Posted by BuffySlayer79

I was just saying that it's funny that people are so obsessed with Idol, yet another reality talent show comes along and nobody is buzzing about that, but yet they're continuing to talk about Carrie and the sort. I was wondering why people haven't been giving Rockstar INXS a chance while they're being held over in anticipation for the next AI season

It just doesnt interest me, the whole concept...

[Dean Winchester]

Originally Posted by ¤I Love Clay Aiken¤

I like American Idol for 3 reasons:
1. the music
2. the people
3. Ryan Seacrest

I prefer pop music over rock, country, etc. and I like the chemistry between the contestants, judges, and Ryan. AI is more of a 'family' reality show, with the tour and all. Its just all around fun.

one thing about Rockstar I prefer to AI is that "vocal talent" isn't everything, but style, songwriting ability, etc... as well. With AI, if you don't have a Celine Dion or Josh Grobin style voice, you're deemed unworthy (I would much rather have an "okay" singer who sings from their heart and soul than somebody like Celine or Whitney who has a great voice, and have never written a song in their lives). Plus, having to perform ones own compositions shows that you have to have ability in that dept. as well, while on AI, the winners are supposed to perform Diane Warren, David Foster castoffs given to them. I prefer it when artists perform their own songs instead of just what they're told to sing.

[EmoJoe]

Originally Posted by BuffySlayer79

one thing about Rockstar I prefer to AI is that "vocal talent" isn't everything, but style, songwriting ability, etc... as well. With AI, if you don't have a Celine Dion or Josh Grobin style voice, you're deemed unworthy (I would much rather have an "okay" singer who sings from their heart and soul than somebody like Celine or Whitney who has a great voice, and have never written a song in their lives). Plus, having to perform ones own compositions shows that you have to have ability in that dept. as well, while on AI, the winners are supposed to perform Diane Warren, David Foster castoffs given to them. I prefer it when artists perform their own songs instead of just what they're told to sing.

Well AI is a singing competition so there's no need to have to go out of the way and write your own songs. On AI, they have them sing other people's songs to see what different types of music they could sing. Because AI is a singing competition it would be stupid to let someone through that has a horrible voice but can write good songs.

[David]

I checked it out, and didn't really like it. There was no thrill, excitement, or anything. Half of the people sound the same -- while on Idol, each contestant has a unique genre and identity. And, it isn't just about vocal ability on Idol. It's about star quality. And we are probably still obsessing about it since it was a so great, and we're not obsessing about INXS, because maybe it's just not our cup of tea.

[Dean Winchester]

Originally Posted by Maroon5'd

Well AI is a singing competition so there's no need to have to go out of the way and write your own songs. On AI, they have them sing other people's songs to see what different types of music they could sing. Because AI is a singing competition it would be stupid to let someone through that has a horrible voice but can write good songs.

well, that's the problem with it IMO. You can have the best voice in the world but if you aren't singing from the heart, you may as well be lipsynching. According to AI, if you don't have a perfect singing voice, you're no good, audiences have proven differently. The same critics who find Celine to be homogenic and motionless because she has never sung anything besides what she's been told to sing find someone like Sheryl Crow who doesn't have the best voice in the world but can write a good song to be fantastic.

I think all around talent is more important than "does he/she have a pretty voice" because there are plenty of artists who don't have "good singing voices" that many critics would deem more talented than those who sound great, Bob Dylan and Yoko Ono both come to mind. Neither of them would make it pas the AI auditions but yet critics around the globe consider them talented for their songwriting, production, etc...

[EmoJoe]

Originally Posted by BuffySlayer79

well, that's the problem with it IMO. You can have the best voice in the world but if you aren't singing from the heart, you may as well be lipsynching. According to AI, if you don't have a perfect singing voice, you're no good, audiences have proven differently. The same critics who find Celine to be homogenic and motionless because she has never sung anything besides what she's been told to sing find someone like Sheryl Crow who doesn't have the best voice in the world but can write a good song to be fantastic.

I think all around talent is more important than "does he/she have a pretty voice" because there are plenty of artists who don't have "good singing voices" that many critics would deem more talented than those who sound great, Bob Dylan and Yoko Ono both come to mind. Neither of them would make it pas the AI auditions but yet critics around the globe consider them talented for their songwriting, production, etc...

No, as David said, AI is also based on star quality. You can't really say the point of it when you dont even watch it. Nadia didnt have the best voice but she had great star quality and she got 8th place. Heck, BO didnt even have the best voice, but he got 2nd place. As we have said, Rockstar just isn't our cup of tea, and just because you like it doesn't mean we all have to run to our TVs and watch it. So what if we like one show but dont like another? Is there a problem with people that dont have the same opinion as you?

[EmoJoe]

Originally Posted by David

I checked it out, and didn't really like it. There was no thrill, excitement, or anything. Half of the people sound the same -- while on Idol, each contestant has a unique genre and identity. And, it isn't just about vocal ability on Idol. It's about star quality. And we are probably still obsessing about it since it was a so great, and we're not obsessing about INXS, because maybe it's just not our cup of tea.

Exactly. Why should we obsess over something we dont like? We like Idol, so we talk about it. If it bothers you, dont read the threads.

[Dean Winchester]

Originally Posted by Maroon5'd

No, as David said, AI is also based on star quality. You can't really say the point of it when you dont even watch it. Nadia didnt have the best voice but she had great star quality and she got 8th place. Heck, BO didnt even have the best voice, but he got 2nd place. As we have said, Rockstar just isn't our cup of tea, and just because you like it doesn't mean we all have to run to our TVs and watch it. So what if we like one show but dont like another? Is there a problem with people that dont have the same opinion as you?

maybe I'd stomach Idol if there were three changes:

1. Ryan Seacrest - I HATE THIS MAN!!! Dave Navarro is far cooler (who is basically the Ryan on Rockstar). I can't stand metrosexuals who are so obsessed with appearence.
2. Considering how young AI fans are, I don't think they realize the irony of having Paula Abdul judging a singing contest, those of us who remember her days as a pop star find it laughable that she of all people is telling people they can or cannot sing, she was the J. Lo of the late 80's/early 90's.
3. not the shows fault, and I don't see it here but I've seen it on other boards, but the fact that every year (until now) became this huge race debate. People had to make AI political (I remember "people voted Tamyra off because they're all racist and don't want a black idol" in 2002, and also a huge race war between Clay and Ruben fans) instead of just accepting the show as mindless entertainment. People who had to make AI based on race instead of talent completely sucked any enjoyment I could have out of the show since people get so damn sensitive if the finalists are of two races.

[EmoJoe]

Originally Posted by BuffySlayer79

maybe I'd stomach Idol if there were three changes:

1. Ryan Seacrest - I HATE THIS MAN!!! Dave Navarro is far cooler (who is basically the Ryan on Rockstar). I can't stand metrosexuals who are so obsessed with appearence.
2. Considering how young AI fans are, I don't think they realize the irony of having Paula Abdul judging a singing contest, those of us who remember her days as a pop star find it laughable that she of all people is telling people they can or cannot sing, she was the J. Lo of the late 80's/early 90's.
3. not the shows fault, and I don't see it here but I've seen it on other boards, but the fact that every year (until now) became this huge race debate. People had to make AI political (I remember "people voted Tamyra off because they're all racist and don't want a black idol" in 2002, and also a huge race war between Clay and Ruben fans) instead of just accepting the show as mindless entertainment. People who had to make AI based on race instead of talent completely sucked any enjoyment I could have out of the show since people get so damn sensitive if the finalists are of two races.

People get sensetive during every Idol finale, the Bo and Carrie finale heat was just as bad as the Fantasia and Diana finale heat.