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justins5256 · 07-21-2005, 01:11 AM

I like Karl Malden. Anyone think he was upset over losing his job to Stack? Not to mention the fact that Lifetime screwed him out of royalties by not re-running his episodes.

Justin

robbieasbury · 07-21-2005, 01:29 AM

I'd like to see the episodes that Karl Malden and Raymond Burr hosted again, just to see how much the show changed. I taped the second Karl Malden special on April 25th 1988, when it was rerun on NBC minus the update on the John Burns case.

justins5256 · 07-21-2005, 01:32 AM

I'm missing a few minutes of the beginning of that. Do you still have the tape?

robbieasbury · 07-21-2005, 01:35 AM

I still have the tape, but it's in SLP mode and has a lot of programs on it.

justins5256 · 07-21-2005, 01:37 AM

Any chance you could copy it? I have the other specials.

robbieasbury · 07-21-2005, 01:40 AM

No, I don't have another VCR, but I might try copying several tapes somtime later on.

Kane · 07-21-2005, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by justins5256

I like Karl Malden. Anyone think he was upset over losing his job to Stack? Not to mention the fact that Lifetime screwed him out of royalties by not re-running his episodes.

Justin

I never saw the Karl Malden segments. But it should be noted that when he (and Raymond Burr) hosted the show, it was only a series of specials, and not yet a regular series. So at the time, they didn't really have a permanent host. When they tested Robert Stack, I guess the producers simply liked what they saw. And the rest is history.

Kemistry · 07-21-2005, 11:15 AM

Watching the Burr or Malden hosted segments now is an experience because you're so used to having Stack as the host. It's interesting to see the show even in it's beginning stages with a different host but out of them all, no one wore that trench coat quite like Robert Stack, no disrepect to Burr or Malden who are both great actors.

Pre-Stack segments are coming shortly to my site, stay tuned..

Mr. Fuji · 07-21-2005, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Echoes Of Fear

Pre-Stack segments are coming shortly to my site, stay tuned..

All I can say is, Echoes...

Y O U ' R E T H E M A N ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

robbieasbury · 07-21-2005, 05:19 PM

Did Raymond Burr wear a trenchcoat or a suit like on Perry Mason? It's been so long since I saw the Raymond Burr hosted special in 1987. I have a repeat of the second Karl Malden special, and he looked like he did on The Streets Of San Francisco tv series, with that hat and trenchcoat, like Johnny Carson spoofed on The Tonight Show.

Kemistry · 07-21-2005, 05:44 PM

I believe he wore a suit like perry mason with a matching trench coat, he was also walking with a cane I think.

U.M. Fanatic · 07-21-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Fuji

All I can say is, Echoes...

Y O U ' R E T H E M A N ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Yeah, second that.

I would love to see the pre-Stack specials, just to notice the difference between these specials and the series.

DarkDante · 07-21-2005, 06:19 PM

Another way of looking at it perhaps both Malden & Burr were approached along with Robert Stack about hosting UM when Cosgrove and company decided to take it to the air as a full time show. It could be possible that they could have just taken the actor with the lowest asking price although Stack did have that great presence in his voice that nobody else has really.

Actually I would have loved to see the three of them host it together - Stack could do a segment, then Burr and then Malden - and change it up for each case. Of course the price tag for producing and episode would have been astronomical but hey it's one for the idea mill.

Portions of the pre-stack specials as well as stuff from the stack specials that hasn't been seen in years will be featured on UNSURPASSED MYSTERIES VOLUMES 6 & 7 - In addition I might have a little surprise for the majority of the board in a few weeks - Need to talk to cd and echoes first though but stay tuned same Dante time - same Dante channel!

Later.

Kane · 07-21-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkDante

It could be possible that they could have just taken the actor with the lowest asking price although Stack did have that great presence in his voice that nobody else has really.

That sounds like a believable theory. Besides, I would imagine that there are a lot of highly paid actors who would be considered too pricey for a show like UM. And there are times when an actor might be unwilling to settle for a salary that is even slightly lower than what they normally get. I'm not saying this to be critical of any actor; I'm simply stating the fact that a salary demand (or request) is a common factor in who gets hired. In other words, if the candidate asked for too much money, chances are they would be ruled out.

An actor's schedule is another common factor. Robert Stack could also have been the one most available to commit to the show. Often times, people in show business turn down offers because of scheduling conflicts.

Kemistry · 07-21-2005, 07:46 PM

Well at the time of doing the first special, Burr was already doing the new Perry Mason series and did so up until his death on September 12, 1993. I guess he just couldn't commit to the show. Not sure about Karl Malden though.

07-21-2005, 01:11 AM	#1
justins5256 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2002 Posts: 3,866	Karl Malden I like Karl Malden. Anyone think he was upset over losing his job to Stack? Not to mention the fact that Lifetime screwed him out of royalties by not re-running his episodes. Justin

07-21-2005, 11:15 AM	#8
Kemistry Mysterious Intrigue Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 16, 2005 Location: Outside Your Window... Posts: 339	Watching the Burr or Malden hosted segments now is an experience because you're so used to having Stack as the host. It's interesting to see the show even in it's beginning stages with a different host but out of them all, no one wore that trench coat quite like Robert Stack, no disrepect to Burr or Malden who are both great actors. Pre-Stack segments are coming shortly to my site, stay tuned..
	__________________ Kemistry

07-21-2005, 06:19 PM	#13
DarkDante Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 27, 2002 Posts: 1,569	Malden & Burr Another way of looking at it perhaps both Malden & Burr were approached along with Robert Stack about hosting UM when Cosgrove and company decided to take it to the air as a full time show. It could be possible that they could have just taken the actor with the lowest asking price although Stack did have that great presence in his voice that nobody else has really. Actually I would have loved to see the three of them host it together - Stack could do a segment, then Burr and then Malden - and change it up for each case. Of course the price tag for producing and episode would have been astronomical but hey it's one for the idea mill. Portions of the pre-stack specials as well as stuff from the stack specials that hasn't been seen in years will be featured on UNSURPASSED MYSTERIES VOLUMES 6 & 7 - In addition I might have a little surprise for the majority of the board in a few weeks - Need to talk to cd and echoes first though but stay tuned same Dante time - same Dante channel! Later.
	Last edited by DarkDante; 07-21-2005 at 06:35 PM.

07-21-2005, 01:29 AM	#2
robbieasbury Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 02, 2005 Posts: 200	I'd like to see the episodes that Karl Malden and Raymond Burr hosted again, just to see how much the show changed. I taped the second Karl Malden special on April 25th 1988, when it was rerun on NBC minus the update on the John Burns case.

07-21-2005, 01:32 AM	#3
justins5256 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2002 Posts: 3,866	I'm missing a few minutes of the beginning of that. Do you still have the tape?

07-21-2005, 01:35 AM	#4
robbieasbury Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 02, 2005 Posts: 200	I still have the tape, but it's in SLP mode and has a lot of programs on it.

07-21-2005, 01:37 AM	#5
justins5256 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2002 Posts: 3,866	Any chance you could copy it? I have the other specials.

07-21-2005, 01:40 AM	#6
robbieasbury Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 02, 2005 Posts: 200	No, I don't have another VCR, but I might try copying several tapes somtime later on.

07-21-2005, 05:19 PM	#10
robbieasbury Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 02, 2005 Posts: 200	Did Raymond Burr wear a trenchcoat or a suit like on Perry Mason? It's been so long since I saw the Raymond Burr hosted special in 1987. I have a repeat of the second Karl Malden special, and he looked like he did on The Streets Of San Francisco tv series, with that hat and trenchcoat, like Johnny Carson spoofed on The Tonight Show.

07-21-2005, 05:44 PM	#11
Kemistry Mysterious Intrigue Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 16, 2005 Location: Outside Your Window... Posts: 339	I believe he wore a suit like perry mason with a matching trench coat, he was also walking with a cane I think.

07-21-2005, 07:46 PM	#15
Kemistry Mysterious Intrigue Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 16, 2005 Location: Outside Your Window... Posts: 339	Well at the time of doing the first special, Burr was already doing the new Perry Mason series and did so up until his death on September 12, 1993. I guess he just couldn't commit to the show. Not sure about Karl Malden though.