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Sal · 07-08-2005, 11:18 PM

The nominees for this year's Emmy Awards will be announced this Thursday, July 14. In the sitcom categories, the pickings appear to be fairly slim, so expect many of the same names to show up, including "Everybody Loves Raymond", which will get many sentimental votes since the series has recently ended. Here are my choices for the shows that will not only be nominated, but might also win the Emmys themselves:

BEST SERIES --- Two and a Half Men

BEST ACTOR --- Charlie Sheen "Two and a Half Men"

BEST ACTRESS --- Debra Messing "Will and Grace"

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR --- Peter Boyle "Everybody Loves Raymond"

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS --- Doris Roberts "Everybody Loves Raymond"

BEST WRITING --- Scrubs

BEST DIRECTOR --- James Burrows (pick any series)

BEST NEW COMEDY SERIES (if necessary) --- Joey

The next 2 categories aren't major ones but I like them anyway. They tend to distinguish between celebrities that can really act compared to those who are only in it for the money (like Jennifer Lopez on "Will and Grace").

OUTSTANDING GUEST STAR --- MALE Michael J. Fox "Scrubs"

OUTSTANDING GUEST STAR --- FEMALE Lucy Liu "Joey"

One final thought: Whether it gets in as a comedy or a drama, "Desperate Housewives" will clean up big time. I predict it will win at least 4 Emmys, including Best Drama Series, Best Actress In A Drama Series, and maybe Best New Drama Series, if the Emmys decide to add that in. What do you think? Should new shows be recognized with their own awards? I would love to see it.

USTVFanFromUK · 07-08-2005, 11:24 PM

I doubt 'Desperate Housewives' will be entered the Drama category. It's always being entered in comedy categories and it's more of a comedy than a drama too. I don't buy that crap that the show is a 'soap', it's more of a dark comedy than anything else.

And in my opinion, if they give Teri Hatcher an Emmy, I will puke. Marcia Cross deserves it more and had better material this season.

Somehow I don't see 'Joey' even being nominated and I hope to God it doesn't as well.

barwars · 07-08-2005, 11:57 PM

Desperate Housewives is going to be classified as a comedy. I'm a huge fan, but I really don't want it to win. Arrested Development deserves it, yet again. I wouldn't be shocked to see ELR take it though.

ELR, AD, and DH will all definitely be nominted for "Outstanding Comedy Series", with the other two spots going to either Will & Grace, Two & A Half Men, or Scrubs.

JT · 07-09-2005, 02:28 PM

"Desperate Housewives" is a soap and should be put in the drama category, IMO. Putting it in the comedy category makes it seem like a sitcom, which the show is DEFINITELY not. It's more comedy-drama, sort of like "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman," than anything else, if you ask me.

Superstar · 07-09-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by USTVFanFromUK

Somehow I don't see 'Joey' even being nominated and I hope to God it doesn't as well.

ditto

Mr. Television · 07-09-2005, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JT

"Desperate Housewives" is a soap and should be put in the drama category, IMO. Putting it in the comedy category makes it seem like a sitcom, which the show is DEFINITELY not. It's more comedy-drama, sort of like "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman," than anything else, if you ask me.

Yea I think it should be put in the drama category. Their are a lot of dramas over the years that had comedic elements in them and were nominated as a drama. The one big exception was Alley McBeal. I think if they do it, it will be to strengthen up the comedy category because after ELR leaves after this years awards you really don't have a strong emmy show in the category anymore.

Sean Snow · 07-09-2005, 02:50 PM

Yeah, I think DH really belongs in the drama category.

These are my personal choices for who I want to win in the comedy categories:

Outstanding Comedy: Arrested Development [Although DH would be awesome, too.]
Outstanding Lead Actor: Jason Bateman (AD)
Outstanding Lead Actress: Marcia Cross (DH)
Outstanding Supporting Actor: David Cross or Will Arnett (AD)
Outstanding Supporting Actress: Jessica Walter (AD)

Dean Winchester · 07-09-2005, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JT

"Desperate Housewives" is a soap and should be put in the drama category, IMO. Putting it in the comedy category makes it seem like a sitcom, which the show is DEFINITELY not. It's more comedy-drama, sort of like "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman," than anything else, if you ask me.

well, dramas are going strong last year, even without DH, it'd be a stronger catagory than sitcoms would be without DH. There's nothing wrong with DH being classified as a comedy, it made me laugh more than Everybody Loves Raymond ever has or the past three seasons of Will And Grace. Being classified a comedy isn't the kiss of death.

If Sex And The City was a comedy, so is Housewives, the only reason people see any difference in the genres of the two shows is that S&TC was 30 minutes and DH is an hour.

USTVFanFromUK · 07-09-2005, 11:30 PM

Desperate Housewives is a dark comedy, kinda like Six Feet Under is in a way. The comedic elements of DH usually drive some part of the storyline. Without comedy, DH would be just another boring drama.

Dean Winchester · 07-09-2005, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by USTVFanFromUK

Desperate Housewives is a dark comedy, kinda like Six Feet Under is in a way. The comedic elements of DH usually drive some part of the storyline. Without comedy, DH would be just another boring drama.

I don't think Six Feet has very much comedy to it. To me, DH is basically what Sex And The City would've been like if expanded to an hour. I believe both shows were in the same genre, it's just easier to call Sex a comedy cause it's 30 mins and Housewives a drama because it's 60, but I think they both have about the same amount of mixture of comedy and drama.

If you notice so many Sex fans are calling DH "the perfect substitution" since S&TC's gone.

USTVFanFromUK · 07-10-2005, 12:13 AM

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I don't think Six Feet has very much comedy to it. To me, DH is basically what Sex And The City would've been like if expanded to an hour. I believe both shows were in the same genre, it's just easier to call Sex a comedy cause it's 30 mins and Housewives a drama because it's 60, but I think they both have about the same amount of mixture of comedy and drama.

If you notice so many Sex fans are calling DH "the perfect substitution" since S&TC's gone.

True, but I think the comedic elements of DH is what makes it so special. By comedy driving the storylines indirectly, it sets it apart from other shows on the air. Without the comedic elements, DH would've just been anothr Knots Landing rip-off.

barwars · 07-10-2005, 01:47 PM

Desperate Housewives has a definite chance at winning the Emmy for Best Comedy.

If it were going for Best Drama, it's chances wouldn't be so good.

JT · 07-10-2005, 03:17 PM

I personally view DH as a primetime soap in the veins of the 80s shows, simply because Marc Cherry has stated several times that he didn't plan on it being soapy, but as he continued to develope it, he decided to put it in the soap category. ABC even promoted it as the next big primetime soap...why oh why do people think that just because something has soap tacked on to it, it can't possibly be good?

barwars · 07-10-2005, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JT

why oh why do people think that just because something has soap tacked on to it, it can't possibly be good?

That's not the problem. It's where they'll be able to win the most. In the comedy categories, there is no major competition. ELR has only this year, and Arrested Development is the only other series that will give DH a run for its money.

With DH classified as a comedy, ABC could possibly take home "Best Comedy" and "Best Drama" (Lost).

troopoleon8897 · 07-10-2005, 06:01 PM

I Really Hope Desprete Housewives Is In The Comedy Section Even Though I Would Like To See Raymond Win It In It's last Year Becasue I Think Lost Deserves The Best Drama Title Because In My Opinion Lost Had More Of That Drama Appel To Me, However That Won't Do Any Favors For Arrested Development Becasue I Think That With DH In The Comedy Section AD Won't Be Any Competion For It

07-08-2005, 11:18 PM	#1
Sal Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jul 20, 2001 Location: Oakville, Ont. Canada Posts: 6,187	2005 Emmy nominations The nominees for this year's Emmy Awards will be announced this Thursday, July 14. In the sitcom categories, the pickings appear to be fairly slim, so expect many of the same names to show up, including "Everybody Loves Raymond", which will get many sentimental votes since the series has recently ended. Here are my choices for the shows that will not only be nominated, but might also win the Emmys themselves: BEST SERIES --- Two and a Half Men BEST ACTOR --- Charlie Sheen "Two and a Half Men" BEST ACTRESS --- Debra Messing "Will and Grace" BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR --- Peter Boyle "Everybody Loves Raymond" BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS --- Doris Roberts "Everybody Loves Raymond" BEST WRITING --- Scrubs BEST DIRECTOR --- James Burrows (pick any series) BEST NEW COMEDY SERIES (if necessary) --- Joey The next 2 categories aren't major ones but I like them anyway. They tend to distinguish between celebrities that can really act compared to those who are only in it for the money (like Jennifer Lopez on "Will and Grace"). OUTSTANDING GUEST STAR --- MALE Michael J. Fox "Scrubs" OUTSTANDING GUEST STAR --- FEMALE Lucy Liu "Joey" One final thought: Whether it gets in as a comedy or a drama, "Desperate Housewives" will clean up big time. I predict it will win at least 4 Emmys, including Best Drama Series, Best Actress In A Drama Series, and maybe Best New Drama Series, if the Emmys decide to add that in. What do you think? Should new shows be recognized with their own awards? I would love to see it.
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07-09-2005, 02:28 PM	#4
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Sean Snow moo Forum Fanatic Join Date: May 06, 2001 Location: Georgia Posts: 10,408	Yeah, I think DH really belongs in the drama category. These are my personal choices for who I want to win in the comedy categories: Outstanding Comedy: Arrested Development [Although DH would be awesome, too.] Outstanding Lead Actor: Jason Bateman (AD) Outstanding Lead Actress: Marcia Cross (DH) Outstanding Supporting Actor: David Cross or Will Arnett (AD) Outstanding Supporting Actress: Jessica Walter (AD)
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07-10-2005, 06:01 PM	#15
troopoleon8897 Let's Go!! Senior Member Join Date: Jun 28, 2004 Location: Not Hell, But the same Zip Code Posts: 1,751	I Really Hope Desprete Housewives Is In The Comedy Section Even Though I Would Like To See Raymond Win It In It's last Year Becasue I Think Lost Deserves The Best Drama Title Because In My Opinion Lost Had More Of That Drama Appel To Me, However That Won't Do Any Favors For Arrested Development Becasue I Think That With DH In The Comedy Section AD Won't Be Any Competion For It
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07-08-2005, 11:24 PM	#2
USTVFanFromUK Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 24, 2004 Posts: 553	I doubt 'Desperate Housewives' will be entered the Drama category. It's always being entered in comedy categories and it's more of a comedy than a drama too. I don't buy that crap that the show is a 'soap', it's more of a dark comedy than anything else. And in my opinion, if they give Teri Hatcher an Emmy, I will puke. Marcia Cross deserves it more and had better material this season. Somehow I don't see 'Joey' even being nominated and I hope to God it doesn't as well.

07-08-2005, 11:57 PM	#3
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	Desperate Housewives is going to be classified as a comedy. I'm a huge fan, but I really don't want it to win. Arrested Development deserves it, yet again. I wouldn't be shocked to see ELR take it though. ELR, AD, and DH will all definitely be nominted for "Outstanding Comedy Series", with the other two spots going to either Will & Grace, Two & A Half Men, or Scrubs.

07-09-2005, 11:30 PM	#9
USTVFanFromUK Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 24, 2004 Posts: 553	Desperate Housewives is a dark comedy, kinda like Six Feet Under is in a way. The comedic elements of DH usually drive some part of the storyline. Without comedy, DH would be just another boring drama.

07-10-2005, 01:47 PM	#12
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	Desperate Housewives has a definite chance at winning the Emmy for Best Comedy. If it were going for Best Drama, it's chances wouldn't be so good.

07-10-2005, 03:17 PM	#13
JT Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 29, 2001 Location: USA Posts: 7,223	I personally view DH as a primetime soap in the veins of the 80s shows, simply because Marc Cherry has stated several times that he didn't plan on it being soapy, but as he continued to develope it, he decided to put it in the soap category. ABC even promoted it as the next big primetime soap...why oh why do people think that just because something has soap tacked on to it, it can't possibly be good?