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Steve M. · 07-07-2005, 08:52 PM

American cinema is considered the best in the world, which of course, is a crock. It was the best cinema in the world until the big studios assumed more control over the studios to make bigger and more spectacular blockbusters with no artistic value for maximum profits.

The period between the late sixties and the late seventies was considered Hollywood's last golden age for movies like Bonnie and Clyde, Midnight Cowboy, Medium Cool, Easy Rider, Five Easy Pieces, M*A*S*H, Chinatown, The Godfather, Save the Tiger, The Conversation, Taxi Driver, and others. So which movie ended this era? Here are the choices:

Jaws, because it kicked off a wave (no pun intended) of summer blockbusters.

Star Wars, because it kicked off an era of movies with overreliance with special effects and it also kicked off movie merchandising.

National Lampoon's Animal House, because it led to the following - scatological teen movies, scatological frat-boy movies, movies starring "Saturday Night Live" alumni, and John Landis flicks.

National Lampoon's Vacation, because it gave the film's screenwriter, John Hughes, carte blanche to make all of those self-important suburban Chicago-based upper-middle-class teens angst movies.

Rocky II, because it created the moron movie genre and ensured Sylvester Stallons a place in movie history - and let to awful movies whose titles all end in Roman numerals. (In the original Rocky, Rocky Balboa did not defeat Apollo Creed, but Rocky II allowed him to beat him in a rematch and then beat his opponents in Rocky III and Rocky IV turning him from a lovable South Philly boy into an invincible cartoon.)

Some other movie.

What's your vote?

Steve M. · 07-07-2005, 09:01 PM

I'm voting for Rocky II, for the reasons listed above. Jaws was a decent latter-day Moby Dick, Star Wars, despite its special effects, was still an intelligent sci-fi flick, Animal House gave us Tom Hulce and Tim Matheson (and John Belushi could have been a great actor if not for his untimely death), Vacation reminded me of the failed vacations my family took, and besides, not all John Hughes films were awful.

Courtnee · 07-07-2005, 09:04 PM

those are all good movies.

Steve M. · 07-07-2005, 09:04 PM

Who voted for "other?" And what's your choice?

Mr. Television · 07-07-2005, 09:12 PM

Some of those movies are classics and a couple are real close to being one.

Brian Damage · 07-07-2005, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Princess

those are all good movies.

ditto

Rhiannon · 07-08-2005, 09:31 AM

none of those

barwars · 07-08-2005, 10:45 AM

Rocky II sucked, but it didn't ruin Hollywood. Everything else is great though.

Janice · 07-08-2005, 10:50 AM

A "None. Don't Agree" option would have been good for those with a different opinion.

I don't think any of these movies ruined Hollywood, and I liked them all. People love blockbusters and special effect movies. They did way back when too with The Towering Inferno, Poseidon Adventure. Go way back to the King Kong movies and those types. Special effects have advanced and so has the viewer's demand for them.

There's still a balance of commercial and independent films going on today.

Now if you want to talk about a movie causing a negative impact on Hollywood, a very good case could be made for Gigli.

TripperFan · 07-08-2005, 11:11 AM

It was a tough one between Star Wars and Rocky, but I went with Star Wars because it bore the throngs of geeks!

I truly think Hollywood went down the drain with Ishtar!! Stick to singing Babs!

Mr. Television · 07-08-2005, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripperFan

It was a tough one between Star Wars and Rocky, but I went with Star Wars because it bore the throngs of geeks!

I truly think Hollywood went down the drain with Ishtar!! Stick to singing Babs!

" You have embraced the power of the dark side"

TripperFan · 07-08-2005, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DallasCowboysFanatic

" You have embraced the power of the dark side"

SEE - point made!!!

(wait 'til Max sees this - he's gonna whip out his light saber too!!)

dlemond · 07-08-2005, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripperFan

It was a tough one between Star Wars and Rocky, but I went with Star Wars because it bore the throngs of geeks!

I truly think Hollywood went down the drain with Ishtar!! Stick to singing Babs!

Actually Barbara Streisand was not in Ishtar.

And I'll say this again, the first half hour of Ishtar is hilarious.
The songs that they come up with are hysterical.

EmoJoe · 07-08-2005, 12:51 PM

Their all good movies, none of them

TripperFan · 07-08-2005, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlemond

Actually Barbara Streisand was not in Ishtar.

And I'll say this again, the first half hour of Ishtar is hilarious.
The songs that they come up with are hysterical.

Oh right - it must be her recent Dustin Hoffman connection that confused me! The Barbra Streisand one I'm thinking of was Yentl!!

View Poll Results: Which movie ruined Hoolywood?
Jaws	0	0%
Star Wars	4	26.67%
National Lampoon's Animal House	0	0%
National Lampoon's Vacation	0	0%
Rocky II	4	26.67%
other	7	46.67%
Voters: 15. You may not vote on this poll

07-07-2005, 08:52 PM	#1
Steve M. Back on the road to reality Forum Superstar Join Date: Nov 07, 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 33,307	Which movie ruined Hollywood?? American cinema is considered the best in the world, which of course, is a crock. It was the best cinema in the world until the big studios assumed more control over the studios to make bigger and more spectacular blockbusters with no artistic value for maximum profits. The period between the late sixties and the late seventies was considered Hollywood's last golden age for movies like Bonnie and Clyde, Midnight Cowboy, Medium Cool, Easy Rider, Five Easy Pieces, MASH, Chinatown, The Godfather, Save the Tiger, The Conversation, Taxi Driver,* and others. So which movie ended this era? Here are the choices: Jaws, because it kicked off a wave (no pun intended) of summer blockbusters. Star Wars, because it kicked off an era of movies with overreliance with special effects and it also kicked off movie merchandising. National Lampoon's Animal House, because it led to the following - scatological teen movies, scatological frat-boy movies, movies starring "Saturday Night Live" alumni, and John Landis flicks. National Lampoon's Vacation, because it gave the film's screenwriter, John Hughes, carte blanche to make all of those self-important suburban Chicago-based upper-middle-class teens angst movies. Rocky II, because it created the moron movie genre and ensured Sylvester Stallons a place in movie history - and let to awful movies whose titles all end in Roman numerals. (In the original Rocky, Rocky Balboa did not defeat Apollo Creed, but Rocky II allowed him to beat him in a rematch and then beat his opponents in Rocky III and Rocky IV turning him from a lovable South Philly boy into an invincible cartoon.) Some other movie. What's your vote?
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07-07-2005, 09:04 PM	#3
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07-07-2005, 09:12 PM	#5
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07-08-2005, 09:31 AM	#7
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07-07-2005, 09:01 PM	#2
Steve M. Back on the road to reality Forum Superstar Join Date: Nov 07, 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 33,307	I'm voting for Rocky II, for the reasons listed above. Jaws was a decent latter-day Moby Dick, Star Wars, despite its special effects, was still an intelligent sci-fi flick, Animal House gave us Tom Hulce and Tim Matheson (and John Belushi could have been a great actor if not for his untimely death), Vacation reminded me of the failed vacations my family took, and besides, not all John Hughes films were awful.

07-08-2005, 10:45 AM	#8
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07-08-2005, 10:50 AM	#9
Janice Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin' Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 36,388	A "None. Don't Agree" option would have been good for those with a different opinion. I don't think any of these movies ruined Hollywood, and I liked them all. People love blockbusters and special effect movies. They did way back when too with The Towering Inferno, Poseidon Adventure. Go way back to the King Kong movies and those types. Special effects have advanced and so has the viewer's demand for them. There's still a balance of commercial and independent films going on today. Now if you want to talk about a movie causing a negative impact on Hollywood, a very good case could be made for Gigli.

07-08-2005, 11:11 AM	#10
TripperFan In God's Arms Now Forum Star Join Date: Sep 14, 2003 Location: Heartbreak Ridge Posts: 12,086	It was a tough one between Star Wars and Rocky, but I went with Star Wars because it bore the throngs of geeks! I truly think Hollywood went down the drain with Ishtar!! Stick to singing Babs!
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