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TripperFan · 06-27-2005, 10:44 AM

I have always thought that the stuff they added to our foods could be
causing a lot of our health problems, which in turn helps out the medical
field. All at our expense. What was wrong with the way our mother's and
grandmother's prepared food? They didn't have all of these health problems
as we do today. Something to think about. Read the article below and see
what you think.

SLOW POISONING OF AMERICA [and CANADA]

I wondered if there could be an actual chemical causing the massive obesity
epidemic, so did a friend of mine, John Erb.

He was a research assistant at the University of Waterloo, Waterloo,
Ontario, Canada and spent years working for the government.

He made an amazing discovery while going through scientific journals for a
book he was writing called The Slow Poisoning of America. In hundreds of
studies around the world, scientists were creating obese mice and rats to
use in diet or diabetes test studies.

No strain of rat or mice is naturally obese, so the scientists have to
create them. They make these morbidly obese creatures by injecting them
with MSG when they are first born. The MSG triples the amount of insulin the
pancreas creates, causing rats (and humans?) to become obese they even have a title for the race of fat rodents they create: "MSG-Treated Rats" MSG?

I was shocked too. I went to my kitchen, checking the cupboards and the
fridge. MSG was in everything! The Campbell's soups, the Hostess Doritos,
the Lays flavored potato chips, Top Ramen, Betty Crocker Hamburger Helper,
Heinz canned gravy, Swanson frozen prepared meals, Kraft salad dressings,
especially the 'healthy low fat' ones. The items that didn't have MSG had
something called Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein, which is just another name
for Monosodium Glutamate. It was shocking to see just how many of the foods we feed our children everyday are filled with this stuff. They hide MSG
under many different names in order to fool those who catch on.

But it didn't stop there. When our family went out to eat, we started
asking at the restaurants what menu items had MSG. Many employees, even the managers, swore they didn't use MSG. But when we ask for the ingredient
list which they grudgingly provided, sure enough MSG and Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein were everywhere. Burger King, McDonalds, Wendy's, Taco Bell, every restaurant, even the sit down ones like TGIF, Chilis', Applebees and
Denny's use MSG in abundance. Kentucky Fried Chicken seemed to be the WORST offender: MSG was in every chicken dish, salad dressing and gravy. No wonder I loved to eat that coating on the skin, their secret spice was MSG!

So why is MSG in so many of the foods we eat? Is it a preservative or a
vitamin? Not according to my friend John. In the book he wrote, an expose
of the food additive industry called The Slow Poisoning of America,
<http://www.spofamerica.com/> www.spofamerica.com , he said that MSG is added to food for the addictive effect it has on the human body. Even the
propaganda website sponsored by the food manufacturers lobby group
supporting MSG at: <http://www.msgfacts.com/facts/msgfact12.html>
http://www.msgfacts.com/facts/msgfact12.html explains that the reason they add it to food is to make people eat more.

A study of elderly people showed that people eat more of the foods that it
is added to. The Glutamate Association lobby group says eating more
benefits the elderly, but what does it do to the rest of us?

'Betcha can't eat just one', takes on a whole new meaning where MSG is
concerned! And we wonder why the nation is overweight?

The MSG manufacturers themselves admit that it addicts people to their
products. It makes people choose their product over others, and makes
people eat more of it than they would if MSG wasn't added. Not only is MSG
scientifically proven to cause obesity, it is an addictive substance!

Since its introduction into the American food supply fifty years ago, MSG
has been added in larger and larger doses to the prepackaged meals, soups,
snacks and fast foods we are tempted to eat everyday.

The FDA has set no limits on how much of it can be added to food. They
claim it's safe to eat in any amount. How can they claim it is safe when there
are hundreds of scientific studies with titles like these?

The monosodium glutamate (MSG) obese rat as a model for the study of
exercise in obesity. Gobatto CA, Mello MA, Souza CT, Ribeiro IA. Res Commun
Mol Pathol Pharmacol. 2002

Adrenalectomy abolishes the food-induced hypothalamic serotonin release in
both normal and monosodium glutamate-obese rats. Guimaraes RB, Telles MM,
Coelho VB, Mori RC, Nascimento CM, Ribeiro Brain Res Bull. 2002 Aug

Obesity induced by neonatal monosodium glutamate treatment in spontaneously hypertensive rats: an animal model of multiple risk factors.

Hypothalamic lesion induced by injection of monosodium glutamate in
suckling period and subsequent development of obesity. Tanaka K, Shimada M, Nakao K,Kusunoki Exp Neurol. 1978 Oct

Yes, that last study was not a typo, it WAS written in 1978.

Both the medical research community and food "manufacturers" have known
MSG's side effects for decades! Many more studies mentioned in John Erb's
book link MSG to Diabetes, Migraines and headaches, Autism, ADHD and even
Alzheimer's. But what can we do to stop the food manufactures from dumping
fattening and addictive MSG into our food supply and causing the obesity
epidemic we now see? Even as you read this, George W. Bush and his
corporate supporters are pushing a Bill through Congress. Called the "Personal
Responsibility in Food Consumption Act" also known as the "Cheeseburger
Bill". This sweeping law bans anyone from suing food manufacturers, sellers and distributors. Even if it comes out that they purposely added an addictive
chemical to their foods. Read about it for yourself at:
<http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/8458081.htm>
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/8458081.htm

"Last month the House of Representatives passed the "Personal
Responsibility in Food Consumption Act" to protect the food and beverage industry from
civil lawsuits. Under the measure, known as the "Cheeseburger Bill", people
who buy food or drinks couldn't sue the companies that made them, the
stores that sold them or the restaurants that served them if they got fat from the products, so long as the products met existing laws. The Senate is expected to take up a similar bill later this year."

The Bill has already been rushed through the House of Representatives, and
is due for the same rubber stamp at Senate level. It is important that Bush
and his corporate supporters get it through before the media lets everyone
know about MSG, the intentional Nicotine for food.

Several months ago, John Erb took his book and his concerns to one of the
highest government health officials in Canada. While sitting in the
Government office, the official told him "Sure I know how bad MSG is, I
wouldn't touch the stuff!" But this top-level government official refused
to
tell the public what he knew. The big media doesn't want to tell the public
either, fearing legal issues with their advertisers. It seems that the
fallout on the fast food industry may hurt their profit margin.

So what do we do? The food producers and restaurants have been addicting us to their products for years, and now we are paying the price for it. Our
children should not be cursed with obesity caused by an addictive food
additive. But what can I do about it? I'm just one voice, what can I do to
stop the poisoning of our children, while guys like Bush are insuring
financial protection for the industry that is poisoning us.

I, for one, am doing something about it. I am sending this email out to
everyone I know in an attempt to show you the truth that the corporate
owned politicians and media won't tell you. The best way you can help save
yourself and your children from this drug-induced epidemic, is to forward
this email to everyone. With any luck, it will circle the globe before Bush
can pass the Bill protecting those who poisoned us. The food industry
learned a lot from the tobacco industry. Imagine if big tobacco had a bill
like this in place before someone blew the whistle on Nicotine? Blow the
whistle on MSG. If you are one of the few who can still believe that MSG is
good for us, and you don't believe what John Erb has to say, see for
yourself. Go to the National Library of Medicine, at
<http://www.pubmed.com/> www.pubmed.com. Type in the words "MSG Obese", and read a few of the 115 medical studies that appear.

We do not want to be rats in one giant experiment, and we do not approve of
food that makes us into a nation of obese, lethargic, addicted sheep,
waiting for the slaughter. With your help we can put an end to this, and
stop the Slow Poisoning of America.

Let's save our children says (John Erb) ...

Munsters#1 · 06-27-2005, 10:58 AM

You've just figured this out? I've never trusted American products.

TripperFan · 06-27-2005, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munsters#1

You've just figured this out? I've never trusted American products.

So I take it you've never eaten fast food (except maybe Swiss Chalet since it's Canadian)? Or any food processed here in North America?

I wouldn't blame the Americans solely for this. You missed the purpose of the post (otherwise I would have put it on the politics board).

Kay Scarpetta · 06-27-2005, 11:45 AM

No wonder so many foods these days give me migraines. When I was younger (ten, maybe eleven years ago?) I couldn't eat Chinese food, because of the large amount of MSG added. I'd get splitting migraines at 6 years old. These days, it seems no matter what I eat, I always get a headache. Some foods give me full blown migraines, so I can't even eat them anymore.

Between MSG and food allergies, I can't eat a thing. I'm switching to dog food

Munsters#1 · 06-27-2005, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripperFan

So I take it you've never eaten fast food (except maybe Swiss Chalet since it's Canadian)? Or any food processed here in North America?

I didn't say I don't eat it, I said I don't trust it.

Penny Lane · 06-27-2005, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kay Scarpetta

No wonder so many foods these days give me migraines. When I was younger (ten, maybe eleven years ago?) I couldn't eat Chinese food, because of the large amount of MSG added. I'd get splitting migraines at 6 years old. These days, it seems no matter what I eat, I always get a headache. Some foods give me full blown migraines, so I can't even eat them anymore.

Between MSG and food allergies, I can't eat a thing. I'm switching to dog food

Now here's a scary thought. The baby food that I fed my kids had MSG in it. This was back in the early 70's. Well as far as I know they have had no ill effects except a little brain damage! Kidding Kidding!

TripperFan · 06-27-2005, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munsters#1

I didn't say I don't eat it, I said I don't trust it.

TripperFan · 06-27-2005, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kay Scarpetta

No wonder so many foods these days give me migraines. When I was younger (ten, maybe eleven years ago?) I couldn't eat Chinese food, because of the large amount of MSG added. I'd get splitting migraines at 6 years old. These days, it seems no matter what I eat, I always get a headache. Some foods give me full blown migraines, so I can't even eat them anymore.

Between MSG and food allergies, I can't eat a thing. I'm switching to dog food

I've noticed the same thing - I'm starting back with the migraines again. I also used to have to take an antihistamine if I was going to be eating Chinese food or I'd start wheezing. I'm noticing it with other foods now too. It's the addictive and fattening issue I'm really concerned with. I swear my husband's heavily addicted to the "garbage" fast and processed foods.

It may be enough to make me look into these organic diets more (although I hear with them, you're risking e-coli contamination). We can't win anymore!

Janice · 06-27-2005, 12:20 PM

I remember an episode of Seinfeld when Kramer called and ordered Chinese food with "extra MSG".

PZelda · 06-27-2005, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripperFan

I've noticed the same thing - I'm starting back with the migraines again. I also used to have to take an antihistamine if I was going to be eating Chinese food or I'd start wheezing. I'm noticing it with other foods now too. It's the addictive and fattening issue I'm really concerned with. I swear my husband's heavily addicted to the "garbage" fast and processed foods.

It may be enough to make me look into these organic diets more (although I hear with them, you're risking e-coli contamination). We can't win anymore!

Man, it's times like that I'm glad I rarely ever eat at fast food restaurants. Same exact reason I hardly ever eat at restaurants now.

I've never been one for Chinese or any of that junk. I knew there was a reason why I didn't trust Chinese fast food.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janice

I remember an episode of Seinfeld when Kramer called and ordered Chinese food with "extra MSG".

I remember that one!

Penny Lane · 06-27-2005, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PZelda

Man, it's times like that I'm glad I rarely ever eat at fast food restaurants. Same exact reason I hardly ever eat at restaurants now.

I've never been one for Chinese or any of that junk. I knew there was a reason why I didn't trust Chinese fast food.:

Have you ever heard Weird Al's parody"Cat's In The Kettle"?

PZelda · 06-27-2005, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penny Lane

Have you ever heard Weird Al's parody"Cat's In The Kettle"?

For obvious reasons, no...

But I did find the lyrics.

TripperFan · 06-27-2005, 01:33 PM

[QUOTE=PZelda]Man, it's times like that I'm glad I rarely ever eat at fast food restaurants. Same exact reason I hardly ever eat at restaurants now.

I've never been one for Chinese or any of that junk. I knew there was a reason why I didn't trust Chinese fast food.

[QUOTE]

The real scary thought is that it's not just in fast foods but seems to be in almost every processed food on the market!

James"Thunder"Early · 06-27-2005, 01:33 PM

There is much more than MSG poisoning us, all sorts of different dyes, propylene glycol which is in anti-freeze is in our food. I've seen MSG sold in bags in the store. It's all to get you addicted to their food. The food companies have these flavorists who create flavors that make you want more and more of their food.

dlemond · 06-27-2005, 01:36 PM

Did you ever think when you eat Chinese,
It ain't pork or chicken, but a fat siamese,
Yet the food tastes great, so ya don't complain,
but that's not chicken in your chicken chow
mein.
Seems to me I ordered sweet and sour pork,
But Garfield's on my fork,
He's purrin here on my fork...

There's a cat in the kettle at the Peking Moon,
The place that I eat everyday at noon,
They can feed you cat and you'll never know,
Once they wrap it up in dough, boys,
They fry it real crisp in dough.

Chou Lin asked if I wanted more,
As he was dialin up his buddy at the old pet store,
I said not today,
I lost my apettite,
There's two cats in my belly and they want to fight,
I was suckin on a Rolaid and a Tums or two,
When I swear I heard it mew, boy,
And that is when I knew...

There's a cat in the kettle at the Peking Moon,
I think I gotta stop eating there at noon,
They say that it's beef or fish or pork,
But it's purrin there on my fork,
There's a hairball on my fork.

06-27-2005, 10:44 AM	#1
TripperFan In God's Arms Now Forum Star Join Date: Sep 14, 2003 Location: Heartbreak Ridge Posts: 12,086	Interesting Article About MSG Food Additive I have always thought that the stuff they added to our foods could be causing a lot of our health problems, which in turn helps out the medical field. All at our expense. What was wrong with the way our mother's and grandmother's prepared food? They didn't have all of these health problems as we do today. Something to think about. Read the article below and see what you think. SLOW POISONING OF AMERICA [and CANADA] I wondered if there could be an actual chemical causing the massive obesity epidemic, so did a friend of mine, John Erb. He was a research assistant at the University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada and spent years working for the government. He made an amazing discovery while going through scientific journals for a book he was writing called The Slow Poisoning of America. In hundreds of studies around the world, scientists were creating obese mice and rats to use in diet or diabetes test studies. No strain of rat or mice is naturally obese, so the scientists have to create them. They make these morbidly obese creatures by injecting them with MSG when they are first born. The MSG triples the amount of insulin the pancreas creates, causing rats (and humans?) to become obese they even have a title for the race of fat rodents they create: "MSG-Treated Rats" MSG? I was shocked too. I went to my kitchen, checking the cupboards and the fridge. MSG was in everything! The Campbell's soups, the Hostess Doritos, the Lays flavored potato chips, Top Ramen, Betty Crocker Hamburger Helper, Heinz canned gravy, Swanson frozen prepared meals, Kraft salad dressings, especially the 'healthy low fat' ones. The items that didn't have MSG had something called Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein, which is just another name for Monosodium Glutamate. It was shocking to see just how many of the foods we feed our children everyday are filled with this stuff. They hide MSG under many different names in order to fool those who catch on. But it didn't stop there. When our family went out to eat, we started asking at the restaurants what menu items had MSG. Many employees, even the managers, swore they didn't use MSG. But when we ask for the ingredient list which they grudgingly provided, sure enough MSG and Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein were everywhere. Burger King, McDonalds, Wendy's, Taco Bell, every restaurant, even the sit down ones like TGIF, Chilis', Applebees and Denny's use MSG in abundance. Kentucky Fried Chicken seemed to be the WORST offender: MSG was in every chicken dish, salad dressing and gravy. No wonder I loved to eat that coating on the skin, their secret spice was MSG! So why is MSG in so many of the foods we eat? Is it a preservative or a vitamin? Not according to my friend John. In the book he wrote, an expose of the food additive industry called The Slow Poisoning of America, <http://www.spofamerica.com/> www.spofamerica.com , he said that MSG is added to food for the addictive effect it has on the human body. Even the propaganda website sponsored by the food manufacturers lobby group supporting MSG at: <http://www.msgfacts.com/facts/msgfact12.html> http://www.msgfacts.com/facts/msgfact12.html explains that the reason they add it to food is to make people eat more. A study of elderly people showed that people eat more of the foods that it is added to. The Glutamate Association lobby group says eating more benefits the elderly, but what does it do to the rest of us? 'Betcha can't eat just one', takes on a whole new meaning where MSG is concerned! And we wonder why the nation is overweight? The MSG manufacturers themselves admit that it addicts people to their products. It makes people choose their product over others, and makes people eat more of it than they would if MSG wasn't added. Not only is MSG scientifically proven to cause obesity, it is an addictive substance! Since its introduction into the American food supply fifty years ago, MSG has been added in larger and larger doses to the prepackaged meals, soups, snacks and fast foods we are tempted to eat everyday. The FDA has set no limits on how much of it can be added to food. They claim it's safe to eat in any amount. How can they claim it is safe when there are hundreds of scientific studies with titles like these? The monosodium glutamate (MSG) obese rat as a model for the study of exercise in obesity. Gobatto CA, Mello MA, Souza CT, Ribeiro IA. Res Commun Mol Pathol Pharmacol. 2002 Adrenalectomy abolishes the food-induced hypothalamic serotonin release in both normal and monosodium glutamate-obese rats. Guimaraes RB, Telles MM, Coelho VB, Mori RC, Nascimento CM, Ribeiro Brain Res Bull. 2002 Aug Obesity induced by neonatal monosodium glutamate treatment in spontaneously hypertensive rats: an animal model of multiple risk factors. Hypothalamic lesion induced by injection of monosodium glutamate in suckling period and subsequent development of obesity. Tanaka K, Shimada M, Nakao K,Kusunoki Exp Neurol. 1978 Oct Yes, that last study was not a typo, it WAS written in 1978. Both the medical research community and food "manufacturers" have known MSG's side effects for decades! Many more studies mentioned in John Erb's book link MSG to Diabetes, Migraines and headaches, Autism, ADHD and even Alzheimer's. But what can we do to stop the food manufactures from dumping fattening and addictive MSG into our food supply and causing the obesity epidemic we now see? Even as you read this, George W. Bush and his corporate supporters are pushing a Bill through Congress. Called the "Personal Responsibility in Food Consumption Act" also known as the "Cheeseburger Bill". This sweeping law bans anyone from suing food manufacturers, sellers and distributors. Even if it comes out that they purposely added an addictive chemical to their foods. Read about it for yourself at: <http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/8458081.htm> http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/8458081.htm "Last month the House of Representatives passed the "Personal Responsibility in Food Consumption Act" to protect the food and beverage industry from civil lawsuits. Under the measure, known as the "Cheeseburger Bill", people who buy food or drinks couldn't sue the companies that made them, the stores that sold them or the restaurants that served them if they got fat from the products, so long as the products met existing laws. The Senate is expected to take up a similar bill later this year." The Bill has already been rushed through the House of Representatives, and is due for the same rubber stamp at Senate level. It is important that Bush and his corporate supporters get it through before the media lets everyone know about MSG, the intentional Nicotine for food. Several months ago, John Erb took his book and his concerns to one of the highest government health officials in Canada. While sitting in the Government office, the official told him "Sure I know how bad MSG is, I wouldn't touch the stuff!" But this top-level government official refused to tell the public what he knew. The big media doesn't want to tell the public either, fearing legal issues with their advertisers. It seems that the fallout on the fast food industry may hurt their profit margin. So what do we do? The food producers and restaurants have been addicting us to their products for years, and now we are paying the price for it. Our children should not be cursed with obesity caused by an addictive food additive. But what can I do about it? I'm just one voice, what can I do to stop the poisoning of our children, while guys like Bush are insuring financial protection for the industry that is poisoning us. I, for one, am doing something about it. I am sending this email out to everyone I know in an attempt to show you the truth that the corporate owned politicians and media won't tell you. The best way you can help save yourself and your children from this drug-induced epidemic, is to forward this email to everyone. With any luck, it will circle the globe before Bush can pass the Bill protecting those who poisoned us. The food industry learned a lot from the tobacco industry. Imagine if big tobacco had a bill like this in place before someone blew the whistle on Nicotine? Blow the whistle on MSG. If you are one of the few who can still believe that MSG is good for us, and you don't believe what John Erb has to say, see for yourself. Go to the National Library of Medicine, at <http://www.pubmed.com/> www.pubmed.com. Type in the words "MSG Obese", and read a few of the 115 medical studies that appear. We do not want to be rats in one giant experiment, and we do not approve of food that makes us into a nation of obese, lethargic, addicted sheep, waiting for the slaughter. With your help we can put an end to this, and stop the Slow Poisoning of America. Let's save our children says (John Erb) ...
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06-27-2005, 11:45 AM	#4
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06-27-2005, 01:33 PM	#14
James"Thunder"Early Whoever's In New England Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 23, 2004 Location: The Apollo Posts: 7,088	There is much more than MSG poisoning us, all sorts of different dyes, propylene glycol which is in anti-freeze is in our food. I've seen MSG sold in bags in the store. It's all to get you addicted to their food. The food companies have these flavorists who create flavors that make you want more and more of their food.
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06-27-2005, 10:58 AM	#2
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06-27-2005, 12:20 PM	#9
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06-27-2005, 01:36 PM	#15
dlemond Hey, I know you. Moderator Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 03, 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 6,751	Did you ever think when you eat Chinese, It ain't pork or chicken, but a fat siamese, Yet the food tastes great, so ya don't complain, but that's not chicken in your chicken chow mein. Seems to me I ordered sweet and sour pork, But Garfield's on my fork, He's purrin here on my fork... There's a cat in the kettle at the Peking Moon, The place that I eat everyday at noon, They can feed you cat and you'll never know, Once they wrap it up in dough, boys, They fry it real crisp in dough. Chou Lin asked if I wanted more, As he was dialin up his buddy at the old pet store, I said not today, I lost my apettite, There's two cats in my belly and they want to fight, I was suckin on a Rolaid and a Tums or two, When I swear I heard it mew, boy, And that is when I knew... There's a cat in the kettle at the Peking Moon, I think I gotta stop eating there at noon, They say that it's beef or fish or pork, But it's purrin there on my fork, There's a hairball on my fork.