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Seinatra · 06-16-2005, 03:28 PM

I am hyped that the Bucks have the #1 pick. I don't see any way they don't pick Bogut, unless some great trade offer comes their way. I don't know all that much about him, but how can you pick anyone else when a 7 foot 260 lb athletic type center is available?

Anyone other than Bogut you would take?

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/buck/jun05/334083.asp

Ready to take on the world
Bogut eagerly awaits challenge of NBA
By CHARLES F. GARDNER
cgardner@journalsentinel.com
Posted: June 15, 2005
Andrew Bogut is brimming with confidence as he prepares for the National Basketball Association draft.

Possible No. 1 pick Andrew Bogut appears confident as the NBA draft approaches.

Tim Duncan? Bogut already has faced the San Antonio Spurs power forward, during last summer's Athens Olympics, when Australia played the USA.

Shaquille O'Neal? Bring on the Miami Heat center, says Bogut, who could be the Milwaukee Bucks' choice when they make the No. 1 pick in the June 28 draft.

"It's playing against men," the 20-year-old Bogut said of his experiences in international play and the Olympic Games. "A lot of those European men are as strong as the Ben Wallaces of the world.

"I'm ready for anything. I've played against guys who are 300 pounds. I've learned a lot from them.

"Playing against Shaq will be a challenge. He's a great player, a Hall of Famer. But I'm not going to be intimidated by him. He's human. I'm a rookie coming out, and they'll try to beat my butt as well. But I'm up for that challenge, and I can't wait for it."

That type of attitude has to please the Bucks, who are carefully weighing their options at No. 1: Bogut, the sophomore from Utah; and Marvin Williams, the freshman forward from North Carolina.

Williams will be in Milwaukee for an individual workout with the Bucks on Sunday, followed by the 7-foot, 255-pound Bogut on Monday.

"The upside for both is very high," said Bucks general manager Larry Harris. "They both have a high basketball IQ and are very competitive kids. It's a big weekend for us."

Bogut, who is of Croatian descent but grew up in Australia, said he understands why the Bucks are looking over both players so carefully.

Asked about comparisons to NBA veteran Vlade Divac, Bogut quickly responded, "I'm not as slow as Vlade. You'll be surprised when you see me play. I've been playing for Utah, and I've looked unathletic at times because I just have to get the job done of getting a 'W' for the Utes.

"I didn't need to be athletic on the perimeter; I was just strictly banging inside and doing what the coach told me."

Bogut has been working out in Washington, D.C., in recent weeks with trainer John Duren, who played at Georgetown and for two seasons (1980-'82) with the Utah Jazz. Duren is known as a big man's coach and also has worked with Patrick Ewing, Alonzo Mourning and Dikembe Mutombo.

"I don't think anybody's perfect, especially coming out of college," said Bogut, who indicated he has gained nearly 20 pounds to bulk up for the rigors of the NBA. "You can never fake the game of basketball. That's why it's such a challenge to come out every day and practice."

Bogut has been dogged by rumors that he has a degenerative eye disorder, and he has vigorously denied them. Australian Olympic coach Brian Goorijan also denied them recently in published reports.

"I told them (the Bucks) exactly what I'm telling you," Goorijan told the Melbourne (Australia) Herald Sun. "I've had the kid since he was 16 years old, and there's been no history of eye problems."

Testing has confirmed that Bogut is nearsighted in one eye, and he wears a special contact lens. Harris said team doctors will examine Bogut when he is here next week.

"I commend Andrew for being up front about this. He's got nothing to hide," Harris said.

"All the information we have to this point says there's no alarm, no red flag to be concerned about. But we want to make sure we cover our bases."

Dutabi84 · 06-16-2005, 04:03 PM

I'm kind of excited in seeing the Wolves get a 1st round pick again.

As for Bogut, I'm sure he'll be #1. I just hope he doesn't become the next Chris Mihm. I doubt he would, because he is super talented. If it isn't him #1, it could be that Marvin Williams guy from UNC.

Seinatra · 06-28-2005, 11:54 AM

The draft is tonight, we have the #1 pick, but no coach.

Seinatra · 06-28-2005, 08:28 PM

Bucks took Bogut #1, also a report that Flip is very near to signing on as head coach. Dutabi I know yall cast him off, but your players were turning into bit%#es.

Miss Golden · 06-29-2005, 02:44 AM

NO. TEAM SELECTION

1 Milwaukee Bucks

Andrew Bogut, Utah

2 Atlanta Hawks

Marvin Williams, North Carolina

3 Utah Jazz

Deron Williams, Illinois

4 New Orleans Hornets

Chris Paul, Wake Forest

5 Charlotte Bobcats

Raymond Felton, North Carolina

6 Portland Trail Blazers

Martell Webster, Seattle Prep HS

7 Toronto Raptors

Charlie Villanueva, Connecticut

8 New York Knicks

Channing Frye, Arizona

9 Golden State Warriors

Ike Diogu, Arizona State

10 LA Lakers

Andrew Bynum, St. Joseph (NJ) HS

11 Orlando Magic

Fran Vazquez, Spain

12 LA Clippers

Yaroslav Korolev, CSKA Moscow

13 Charlotte Bobcats

Sean May, North Carolina

14 Minnesota Timberwolves

Rashad McCants, North Carolina

15 New Jersey Nets

Antoine Wright, Texas A&M

16 Toronto Raptors

Joey Graham, Oklahoma State

17 Indiana Pacers

Danny Granger, New Mexico

18 Boston Celtics

Gerald Green, Gulf Shores Acad (TX)

19 Memphis Grizzlies

Hakim Warrick, Syracuse

20 Denver Nuggets

Julius Hodge, North Carolina State

21 Phoenix Suns (to New York)

Nate Robinson, Washington

22 Denver Nuggets

Jarrett Jack, Georgia Tech

23 Sacramento Kings

Francisco Garcia, Louisville

24 Houston Rockets

Luther Head, Illinois

25 Seattle SuperSonics

Johan Petro, France

26 Detroit Pistons

Jason Maxiell, Cincinnati

27 Portland Trail Blazers

Linas Kleiza, Missouri

28 San Antonio Spurs

Ian Mahinmi, STB Le Havre (France)

29 Miami Heat

Wayne Simien, Kansas

30 New York Knicks

David Lee, Florida

ROUND 2

NO. TEAM SELECTION

31 Atlanta Hawks

Salim Stoudamire, Arizona

32 LA Clippers

Daniel Ewing, Duke

33 New Orleans Hornets

Brandon Bass, LSU

34 Utah Jazz

C.J. Miles, Skyline H.S. (Tex)

35 Portland Trail Blazers

Ricky Sanchez, IMG Academy

36 Milwaukee Bucks

Ersan Ilyasova, Ulker Istanbul

37 LA Lakers

Ronny Turiaf, Gonzaga

38 Orlando Magic

Travis Diener, Marquette

39 LA Lakers

Von Wafer, Florida State

40 Golden State Warriors

Monta Ellis, Lanier H.S. (Miss.)

41 Toronto Raptors

Roko Ujic, KK Split (Croatia)

42 Golden State Warriors

Chris Taft, Pittsburgh

43 New Jersey Nets

Mile Ilic, BC Reflex (Serbia & Montenegro)

44 Orlando Magic

Martynas Andriuskevicius, Zalgiris (Lithuania)

45 Philadelphia 76ers

Louis Williams, South Gwinnett HS (Ga.)

46 Indiana Pacers

Erazem Lorbek, Climamio Bologna (Italy)

47 Minnesota Timberwolves

Bracey Wright, Indiana

48 Seattle SuperSonics

Mickael Gelabale, Real Madrid (Spain)

49 Washington Wizards

Andray Blatche, South Kent Prep (Conn.)

50 Boston Celtics

Ryan Gomes, Providence

51 Utah Jazz

Robert Whaley, Walsh University

52 Denver Nuggets

Axel Hervelle, Real Madrid (Spain)

53 Boston Celtics

Orien Green, La.-Lafayette

54 New York Knicks (to Phoenix)

Dijon Thompson, UCLA

55 Seattle SuperSonics (to Memphis)

Lawrence Roberts, Mississippi State

56 Detroit Pistons

Amir Johnson, Westchester H.S. (Calif.)

57 Phoenix Suns

Marcin Gortat, RheinEnergie Koln (Germany)

58 Toronto Raptors

Uros Slokar, Snaidero Udine (Italy)

59 Atlanta Hawks

Cenk Akyol, Efes Pilsen (Turkey)

60 Detroit Pistons

Alex Acker, Eisenhower HS (Calif.)

barwars · 06-29-2005, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Golden

19 Memphis Grizzlies Hakim Warrick, Syracuse

49 Washington Wizards Andray Blatche, South Kent Prep (Conn.)

Represent the 'Cuse!

I actually went to highschool (in Syracuse NY) with Andray my freshman and sophomore years. He didn't even play basketball until he was a freshman in high school (he's 2 years older than I). My brother was/is pretty good friends with him. And one of my best friends helped tutor him in math so he'd be able to graduate. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but nasty at basketball. I talked to him a few times, he always used to hang out in my English classes.

Seinatra · 06-29-2005, 10:22 AM

Good inside info.

There were a lot of high school players in the second round, which is strange.

moeee · 06-29-2005, 11:45 AM

a lot of international players drafted again. what does that say about the talent here in the US?

TVFactFan · 06-29-2005, 12:05 PM

I don;t think Sean Mays from North Carolina is NBA material

moeee · 06-29-2005, 12:08 PM

why would the Bobcats draft May and they already have Okafor and Ely at that position?

TVFactFan · 06-29-2005, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by moeee

why would the Bobcats draft May and they already have Okafor and Ely at that position?

Sean Mays will be a Huge BUST

moeee · 06-29-2005, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RetroTVCollector

Sean Mays will be a Huge BUST

Why do you say that?

TVFactFan · 06-29-2005, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeee

Why do you say that?

He may be ok since he is with a team who s not expected to make the playoffs no time soon

moeee · 06-30-2005, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RetroTVCollector

He may be ok since he is with a team who s not expected to make the playoffs no time soon

He might not even get much playing time with Okafor, Brezec, and Ely playing.
I think the Bobcats made this pick to get fans in the seats because he helped N.Carolina win a title.

Rachel3118 · 06-30-2005, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barwars

Represent the 'Cuse!

I actually went to highschool (in Syracuse NY) with Andray my freshman and sophomore years. He didn't even play basketball until he was a freshman in high school (he's 2 years older than I). My brother was/is pretty good friends with him. And one of my best friends helped tutor him in math so he'd be able to graduate. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but nasty at basketball. I talked to him a few times, he always used to hang out in my English classes.

That's awsome!! I'm a huge fan of the wizzards.

06-16-2005, 03:28 PM	#1
Seinatra Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 29, 2004 Location: Gran Chaco Posts: 1,840	NBA DRAFT I am hyped that the Bucks have the #1 pick. I don't see any way they don't pick Bogut, unless some great trade offer comes their way. I don't know all that much about him, but how can you pick anyone else when a 7 foot 260 lb athletic type center is available? Anyone other than Bogut you would take? http://www.jsonline.com/sports/buck/jun05/334083.asp Ready to take on the world Bogut eagerly awaits challenge of NBA By CHARLES F. GARDNER cgardner@journalsentinel.com Posted: June 15, 2005 Andrew Bogut is brimming with confidence as he prepares for the National Basketball Association draft. Possible No. 1 pick Andrew Bogut appears confident as the NBA draft approaches. Tim Duncan? Bogut already has faced the San Antonio Spurs power forward, during last summer's Athens Olympics, when Australia played the USA. Shaquille O'Neal? Bring on the Miami Heat center, says Bogut, who could be the Milwaukee Bucks' choice when they make the No. 1 pick in the June 28 draft. "It's playing against men," the 20-year-old Bogut said of his experiences in international play and the Olympic Games. "A lot of those European men are as strong as the Ben Wallaces of the world. "I'm ready for anything. I've played against guys who are 300 pounds. I've learned a lot from them. "Playing against Shaq will be a challenge. He's a great player, a Hall of Famer. But I'm not going to be intimidated by him. He's human. I'm a rookie coming out, and they'll try to beat my butt as well. But I'm up for that challenge, and I can't wait for it." That type of attitude has to please the Bucks, who are carefully weighing their options at No. 1: Bogut, the sophomore from Utah; and Marvin Williams, the freshman forward from North Carolina. Williams will be in Milwaukee for an individual workout with the Bucks on Sunday, followed by the 7-foot, 255-pound Bogut on Monday. "The upside for both is very high," said Bucks general manager Larry Harris. "They both have a high basketball IQ and are very competitive kids. It's a big weekend for us." Bogut, who is of Croatian descent but grew up in Australia, said he understands why the Bucks are looking over both players so carefully. Asked about comparisons to NBA veteran Vlade Divac, Bogut quickly responded, "I'm not as slow as Vlade. You'll be surprised when you see me play. I've been playing for Utah, and I've looked unathletic at times because I just have to get the job done of getting a 'W' for the Utes. "I didn't need to be athletic on the perimeter; I was just strictly banging inside and doing what the coach told me." Bogut has been working out in Washington, D.C., in recent weeks with trainer John Duren, who played at Georgetown and for two seasons (1980-'82) with the Utah Jazz. Duren is known as a big man's coach and also has worked with Patrick Ewing, Alonzo Mourning and Dikembe Mutombo. "I don't think anybody's perfect, especially coming out of college," said Bogut, who indicated he has gained nearly 20 pounds to bulk up for the rigors of the NBA. "You can never fake the game of basketball. That's why it's such a challenge to come out every day and practice." Bogut has been dogged by rumors that he has a degenerative eye disorder, and he has vigorously denied them. Australian Olympic coach Brian Goorijan also denied them recently in published reports. "I told them (the Bucks) exactly what I'm telling you," Goorijan told the Melbourne (Australia) Herald Sun. "I've had the kid since he was 16 years old, and there's been no history of eye problems." Testing has confirmed that Bogut is nearsighted in one eye, and he wears a special contact lens. Harris said team doctors will examine Bogut when he is here next week. "I commend Andrew for being up front about this. He's got nothing to hide," Harris said. "All the information we have to this point says there's no alarm, no red flag to be concerned about. But we want to make sure we cover our bases."

06-16-2005, 04:03 PM	#2
Dutabi84 kittens must die Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 22, 2003 Location: MN/TX Posts: 11,026	I'm kind of excited in seeing the Wolves get a 1st round pick again. As for Bogut, I'm sure he'll be #1. I just hope he doesn't become the next Chris Mihm. I doubt he would, because he is super talented. If it isn't him #1, it could be that Marvin Williams guy from UNC.

06-28-2005, 11:54 AM	#3
Seinatra Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 29, 2004 Location: Gran Chaco Posts: 1,840	The draft is tonight, we have the #1 pick, but no coach.

06-28-2005, 08:28 PM	#4
Seinatra Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 29, 2004 Location: Gran Chaco Posts: 1,840	Bucks took Bogut #1, also a report that Flip is very near to signing on as head coach. Dutabi I know yall cast him off, but your players were turning into bit%#es.

06-29-2005, 02:44 AM	#5
Miss Golden Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 06, 2003 Posts: 1,231	NO. TEAM SELECTION 1 Milwaukee Bucks Andrew Bogut, Utah 2 Atlanta Hawks Marvin Williams, North Carolina 3 Utah Jazz Deron Williams, Illinois 4 New Orleans Hornets Chris Paul, Wake Forest 5 Charlotte Bobcats Raymond Felton, North Carolina 6 Portland Trail Blazers Martell Webster, Seattle Prep HS 7 Toronto Raptors Charlie Villanueva, Connecticut 8 New York Knicks Channing Frye, Arizona 9 Golden State Warriors Ike Diogu, Arizona State 10 LA Lakers Andrew Bynum, St. Joseph (NJ) HS 11 Orlando Magic Fran Vazquez, Spain 12 LA Clippers Yaroslav Korolev, CSKA Moscow 13 Charlotte Bobcats Sean May, North Carolina 14 Minnesota Timberwolves Rashad McCants, North Carolina 15 New Jersey Nets Antoine Wright, Texas A&M 16 Toronto Raptors Joey Graham, Oklahoma State 17 Indiana Pacers Danny Granger, New Mexico 18 Boston Celtics Gerald Green, Gulf Shores Acad (TX) 19 Memphis Grizzlies Hakim Warrick, Syracuse 20 Denver Nuggets Julius Hodge, North Carolina State 21 Phoenix Suns (to New York) Nate Robinson, Washington 22 Denver Nuggets Jarrett Jack, Georgia Tech 23 Sacramento Kings Francisco Garcia, Louisville 24 Houston Rockets Luther Head, Illinois 25 Seattle SuperSonics Johan Petro, France 26 Detroit Pistons Jason Maxiell, Cincinnati 27 Portland Trail Blazers Linas Kleiza, Missouri 28 San Antonio Spurs Ian Mahinmi, STB Le Havre (France) 29 Miami Heat Wayne Simien, Kansas 30 New York Knicks David Lee, Florida ROUND 2 NO. TEAM SELECTION 31 Atlanta Hawks Salim Stoudamire, Arizona 32 LA Clippers Daniel Ewing, Duke 33 New Orleans Hornets Brandon Bass, LSU 34 Utah Jazz C.J. Miles, Skyline H.S. (Tex) 35 Portland Trail Blazers Ricky Sanchez, IMG Academy 36 Milwaukee Bucks Ersan Ilyasova, Ulker Istanbul 37 LA Lakers Ronny Turiaf, Gonzaga 38 Orlando Magic Travis Diener, Marquette 39 LA Lakers Von Wafer, Florida State 40 Golden State Warriors Monta Ellis, Lanier H.S. (Miss.) 41 Toronto Raptors Roko Ujic, KK Split (Croatia) 42 Golden State Warriors Chris Taft, Pittsburgh 43 New Jersey Nets Mile Ilic, BC Reflex (Serbia & Montenegro) 44 Orlando Magic Martynas Andriuskevicius, Zalgiris (Lithuania) 45 Philadelphia 76ers Louis Williams, South Gwinnett HS (Ga.) 46 Indiana Pacers Erazem Lorbek, Climamio Bologna (Italy) 47 Minnesota Timberwolves Bracey Wright, Indiana 48 Seattle SuperSonics Mickael Gelabale, Real Madrid (Spain) 49 Washington Wizards Andray Blatche, South Kent Prep (Conn.) 50 Boston Celtics Ryan Gomes, Providence 51 Utah Jazz Robert Whaley, Walsh University 52 Denver Nuggets Axel Hervelle, Real Madrid (Spain) 53 Boston Celtics Orien Green, La.-Lafayette 54 New York Knicks (to Phoenix) Dijon Thompson, UCLA 55 Seattle SuperSonics (to Memphis) Lawrence Roberts, Mississippi State 56 Detroit Pistons Amir Johnson, Westchester H.S. (Calif.) 57 Phoenix Suns Marcin Gortat, RheinEnergie Koln (Germany) 58 Toronto Raptors Uros Slokar, Snaidero Udine (Italy) 59 Atlanta Hawks Cenk Akyol, Efes Pilsen (Turkey) 60 Detroit Pistons Alex Acker, Eisenhower HS (Calif.)

06-29-2005, 10:22 AM	#7
Seinatra Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 29, 2004 Location: Gran Chaco Posts: 1,840	Good inside info. There were a lot of high school players in the second round, which is strange.

06-29-2005, 11:45 AM	#8
moeee Peanut Butter Ice Cream Pie Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 31, 2003 Posts: 40,094	a lot of international players drafted again. what does that say about the talent here in the US?

06-29-2005, 12:05 PM	#9
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,131	I don;t think Sean Mays from North Carolina is NBA material

06-29-2005, 12:08 PM	#10
moeee Peanut Butter Ice Cream Pie Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 31, 2003 Posts: 40,094	why would the Bobcats draft May and they already have Okafor and Ely at that position?