VH1 may not realise it, but they dissed Nancy McKeon big time.

[The Duke of Spoook!]

I'm real mad at VH1 right now. Not only did they make her Jo character seem like a real 80's super-villain, but they also made her look like a total softie afterwards. Not to mention that "single mother" remark. What is VH1 trying to do? Make her look like a gay person? Don't they even know Nancy McKeon is happily MARRIED to a male? WTF!(Hear loud truck horn honking twice while saying last 3 words.) VH1 should at least get the facts straight about her life after Facts of Life. They didn't even mention that she starred for 4 years on The Division as well as her starring role on Category 6 DOD, which BTW was a hit on CBS.

They didn't mind telling all the facts and starring roles of Kim Fields and Mindy Cohn, though.

[Dean Winchester]

1. how does "single mother" equal "lesbian"? Are you that naive? If they wanted to make Nancy look like a lesbian, they would've said "she's raising her child with her partner". Plenty of single mothers who aren't lesbians out there. Angelina Jolie's a single mother... does that mean I'm saying she likes fish? Even if Nancy was a lesbian, which she isn't, so what? You'd be surprised at the large number of gays and lesbians who love Facts Of Life, it's up there with The Golden Girls and Roseanne with us.

2. They did mention The Division, which believe it or not, wasn't really that big a show. And they did mention she's worked steadily too.

3. They painted Jo as "the tough one", which she was, and the clips they showed were ones that depicted her that way.

4. maybe the fact that Nancy resents her FOL past is why VH1 didn't give her the respect they gave Mindy, Kim (who I'd say has had a bigger post-FOL career) and Lisa, because they look to FOL with pride instead of disdain. Maybe if Nancy had given an interview or something VH1 might've cared more to get their facts in order. But remember, Nancy was "too good" to do a reunion movie, even tho Kim Fields did it, and she had more post-FOL success on Living Single than Nancy ever had on The Division.

[The Duke of Spoook!]

Originally Posted by BuffySlayer79

1. how does "single mother" equal "lesbian"? Are you that naive? If they wanted to make Nancy look like a lesbian, they would've said "she's raising her child with her partner". Plenty of single mothers who aren't lesbians out there. Angelina Jolie's a single mother... does that mean I'm saying she likes fish? Even if Nancy was a lesbian, which she isn't, so what? You'd be surprised at the large number of gays and lesbians who love Facts Of Life, it's up there with The Golden Girls and Roseanne with us.

2. They did mention The Division, which believe it or not, wasn't really that big a show. And they did mention she's worked steadily too.

3. They painted Jo as "the tough one", which she was, and the clips they showed were ones that depicted her that way.

4. maybe the fact that Nancy resents her FOL past is why VH1 didn't give her the respect they gave Mindy, Kim (who I'd say has had a bigger post-FOL career) and Lisa, because they look to FOL with pride instead of disdain. Maybe if Nancy had given an interview or something VH1 might've cared more to get their facts in order. But remember, Nancy was "too good" to do a reunion movie, even tho Kim Fields did it, and she had more post-FOL success on Living Single than Nancy ever had on The Division.

Yeah, Queel Latifah, whoop dee doo. But who got to act with the likes of Sean Astin, Lou Diamond Phillips, Joe Pantonialo, Dixie Carter, Bonnie Bedelia, Randy Quaid, and the great Brian Dennehi. And not as guest stars on The Division or her other shows, either. Definitely not Tootie. And who cares if Tootie will be on a future show wit Lil Bow Wow. #2 biggie. Wow. And BTW, I wasn't the one that implied that Nancy was gay, either. Have ya ever heard of Code words or Code phraises. Like "He kicked the dust" meaning he's really dead, or "He played this one" really to mean he screwed this dude over big time. Some people use the term "single mother" to mean the lady is a lesbian raising a kid. And how do you know if Angelina Jolie is gay or not. Heck, they even claim Ms. Jolie even had a love affair with this one woman in the past. Angelina Jolie is just a plain ole' strange woman. And back to Nancy McKeon. She's not gay, not even by their said "code words" at all. She's not a single mother. She's a happily married mother who's still married to a Mr. Marc Andrus.


And remember, Angelina Jolie may be going out with Brad Pitt, but it was Brad Pitt who hit on Her, not her that hit on him. I never even seen them kiss, either. I think, based on Ms. Jolie's love past, that she may be gay in real life. But that's just Angelina Jolie, not anybody else. And I think Angelina Jolie is only hanging around Brad Pitt for sheer publicity. Now why do you really think she and Billy Bob Thornton divorced. If Angelina was really straight, she would still be with Billy Bob. Think about it. It's only time before Ms. Jolie really opens up to her own truth.

And no, in comparison, Nancy is not gay in any way at all. And no, Nancy is not even divorced at all, either. She's still married. And BTW, did all the former kid stars do interviews on VH1? No. And most of those had their facts told straight. Just not Nancy for some reason. And yes, The Division was big on cable, for about 3 seasons until they replaced one of the important ones with a low rate actress. And yes, Nancy's character on The Division was more big, so big in fact that they did major storylines based on her character. Compared to Nancy's character on The Division, Kim Fields character on Living Single would be minor. I've seen Living Single, alot of Living Single eppisodes in fact, and I know that Queen Latifah was gettin' most of the lines, and the other lady or 2 ladies other than Kim Fields were getting more lines, too. Kim was just like the little sister on the show, basically the one who hung around the others 2 or 3 ladies during the run. Kim's character on LS was probably the lady who had the least storylines on the show. QL was the one, of course, who had the most. So yes, based on shows and movies with major storylines around their characters, Nancy had it more successful than Kim.

[The Duke of Spoook!]

And also, I just finished watching the VH1 100 greatest child stars eppisode and seen Kim Fields turn come up, and they said after Facts was over, she was in Living Single for 4 seasons and produced and directed shows and cartoons afterwards(not even starring in them). Man, that's the same # of seasons Nancy McKeon has starred on The Division. And Nancy has been on movies both TV and Feature Films in between Facts and The Division and after TD. IE The Tracy Thurman movie, Love Honor and Obey TLMM*, A Mothers Gift, Teresa's Tattoo, The Wrong Woman, In My Sister's Shadow, Comfort and Joy, and Category 6 DOD*. All these Nancy has been in as a main character. 4 of these listed are either on vhs or dvd. Nancy has been in 2 miniseries. How many has Tootie aka Kim Fields been in miniserieswise? I could only think of one film on tape or dvd Kim has been in. Me and Mrs. Jones in which she starred on as a main character. That's just 1 under Kim Field's belt. And that movie was just a romance type movie that to me kinda didn't fit my tastes for romance-comedy-drama hybrid types of movies. So yes, overall, Nancy McKeon had it more successful than Kim Fields to this day. Maybe not during the 90's. But when it comes between these 2, the 21st century belongs to Nancy McKeon.

[Christopher]

Originally Posted by The Duke of Spoook!

Some people use the term "single mother" to mean the lady is a lesbian raising a kid.

That is the most stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Originally Posted by The Duke of Spoook!

Now why do you really think she and Billy Bob Thornton divorced. If Angelina was really straight, she would still be with Billy Bob. Think about it. It's only time before Ms. Jolie really opens up to her own truth.

Just because a woman divorces a man doesn't make them gay. Angelina is probably looking for the right guy.

[MrsGarrettRocksMySocks]

Okay, here's something ELSE you have to realize----maybe the people at VH1 know that Success is not defined by starring roles. See---for Nancy McKeon to have been more famous on the Division, people actually have to WATCH the show. Just because they gave her character major story lines doesn't mean that she WAS the show. Meanwhile, Kim Fields, while maybe not having as many lines (which I really think isn't the truth---she was a major character in LS), could have been a more memorable character, thereby being more FAMOUS than Nancy McKeon and having a higher TVQ--which is probably what VH1 goes by, anyway. It seems like they're that kind of station.

And the other thing is that---you have to figure---YOU seem to be a very huge Nancy McKeon fan. Get over the fact that not everyone is. I happened to love Charlotte Rae, Angela Lansbury, Tyne Daly, William Windom, Len Cariou, Jerry Orbach, Stephen Sondheim, Jerry Herman, Jule Styne...(well, you get the point), A LOT more than I EVER liked Nancy McKeon. It's a matter of opinion. YOU can claim that Nancy McKeon is more famous than the rest of them, but really, it just depends on what you watch. I've talked to people before who had no idea who Nancy McKeon was when I would talk about The Division, but if I'd bring up Kim Fields, they knew who she was. So, get over it. omg. People make mistakes and screw up facts all the time. That's why they call it show biz.

And besides that---they apparently accomplished their goal. You watched it. And now you're complaining about it(which just gives them free publicity and makes others want to watch it to catch those mistakes). Way to go! You're promoting something that you didn't like.

[Dean Winchester]

Originally Posted by The Duke of Spoook!

And remember, Angelina Jolie may be going out with Brad Pitt, but it was Brad Pitt who hit on Her, not her that hit on him. I never even seen them kiss, either. I think, based on Ms. Jolie's love past, that she may be gay in real life. But that's just Angelina Jolie, not anybody else. And I think Angelina Jolie is only hanging around Brad Pitt for sheer publicity. Now why do you really think she and Billy Bob Thornton divorced. If Angelina was really straight, she would still be with Billy Bob. Think about it.

so everyone who gets divorced is doing so because they're gay? LOL.

Why would anybody, straight or gay, want Billy Bob Thornton when they can have Brad Pitt?

[Dean Winchester]

Originally Posted by MrsGarrettRocksMySocks

Okay, here's something ELSE you have to realize----maybe the people at VH1 know that Success is not defined by starring roles. See---for Nancy McKeon to have been more famous on the Division, people actually have to WATCH the show. Just because they gave her character major story lines doesn't mean that she WAS the show. Meanwhile, Kim Fields, while maybe not having as many lines (which I really think isn't the truth---she was a major character in LS), could have been a more memorable character, thereby being more FAMOUS than Nancy McKeon and having a higher TVQ--which is probably what VH1 goes by, anyway. It seems like they're that kind of station.

And the other thing is that---you have to figure---YOU seem to be a very huge Nancy McKeon fan. Get over the fact that not everyone is. I happened to love Charlotte Rae, Angela Lansbury, Tyne Daly, William Windom, Len Cariou, Jerry Orbach, Stephen Sondheim, Jerry Herman, Jule Styne...(well, you get the point), A LOT more than I EVER liked Nancy McKeon. It's a matter of opinion. YOU can claim that Nancy McKeon is more famous than the rest of them, but really, it just depends on what you watch. I've talked to people before who had no idea who Nancy McKeon was when I would talk about The Division, but if I'd bring up Kim Fields, they knew who she was. So, get over it. omg. People make mistakes and screw up facts all the time. That's why they call it show biz.

And besides that---they apparently accomplished their goal. You watched it. And now you're complaining about it(which just gives them free publicity and makes others want to watch it to catch those mistakes). Way to go! You're promoting something that you didn't like.

you hit the mark perfectly. The ONLY people I know who ever watched The Division were hardcore Jo fans. To many people, it was just another Lifetime show. I mentioned to a friend I was shocked that Nancy was by far the lowest FOL-er, and he said "oh, she should be higher because of that cancelled Lifetime show, right?" and laughed.

Say what you want between Living Single vs. The Division, LS was a more popular show. It still runs on reruns and it went off the air seven years ago. I admit I never was a frequent watcher of the show, but Regine (Kim's character) was always a major part in the episodes I have seen. While Kim will always be Tootie (in the sense that Ron Howard will always be Opie or Richie depending on the person), she did break the typecast and enjoyed success as an adult actress after FOL ended. And you can bash "but it's a Queen Latifah show!!" all you want, Queen Latifah brings in money and is respected in Hollywood, many people would be honored to work with her.

[dawsongirl]

Originally Posted by BuffySlayer79

so everyone who gets divorced is doing so because they're gay? LOL.

Why would anybody, straight or gay, want Billy Bob Thornton when they can have Brad Pitt?

No kidding. Billy Bob is nothin but a dumb hick bastard that makes rednecks look like Rockefellers.

[Ags2000]

Lets watch the language please.

D

[Gizmo1]

Ok...I think all this arguing about who was where on the list should stop...they ALL made the list....awesome for FOL entirly. I was happy about that. And I have never heard that referring to a woman as being a "single mother" automatically makes her a homosexual. Thats bulls***. Then would that be like saying all "single fathers" are gay as well? Or all "plant lovers" smoke pot? Don't think so. But I think we should all be happy about all of the FOL child stars making the list.

[The Duke of Spoook!]

Originally Posted by Gizmo1

Ok...I think all this arguing about who was where on the list should stop...they ALL made the list....awesome for FOL entirly. I was happy about that. And I have never heard that referring to a woman as being a "single mother" automatically makes her a homosexual. Thats bulls***. Then would that be like saying all "single fathers" are gay as well? Or all "plant lovers" smoke pot? Don't think so. But I think we should all be happy about all of the FOL child stars making the list.

Tecnically, not all FOL stars made the list. What about Macanzie Astin and Sherrie Krenn. They were both on the show, too, for more than 1 year. Mac was on for more than 3 seasons, in fact. Sherrie was on for 2 or 3 seasons, as well. That's a long time, ya know. Those 2 didn't make the list.

[blueberry09]

I think that Gizmo1 was talking about all the main girls and besides those 2 didn't really do anything before the facts of life from what I hear.Do you always have to start arguing on these boards its getting kind of ridiculous now.

[TripperFan]

Actually Angelina is bisexual. She openly had an affair with another woman (I think it was before Billy Bob). But that still has nothing to do with her being a single mom.

Any woman who's separated, divorced, widowed, with children is considered a single mother.

I don't think VH1 dissed her at all. The character of Jo WAS a little tough - what she called a "tomboy". Plenty of girls I knew acted like she did but it didn't make them any less feminine or a lesbian.

[The Duke of Spoook!]

Originally Posted by blueberry09

I think that Gizmo1 was talking about all the main girls and besides those 2 didn't really do anything before the facts of life from what I hear.Do you always have to start arguing on these boards its getting kind of ridiculous now.

Nope. I wasn't arguing.