Philadelphia Daily News Movie Critic gives the Honeymooners a

[TVFactFan]

(D)-LOL I figured it would be thatbad because from the Previews it Looks Stupid. Anyone who has seen this would you give it a D? And I'm also not too Happy about the Hooneymooners being Remade. Leave the Classics Alone

[Living In a '70's Dream]

Originally Posted by RetroTVCollector

(D)-LOL I figured it would be thatbad because from the Previews it Looks Stupid. Anyone who has seen this would you give it a D? And I'm also not too Happy about the Hooneymooners being Remade. Leave the Classics Alone

yeah graded D for Dumb and you will be dumb if you wasted your good money on seeing this crap!

[TVFactFan]

Originally Posted by ~Princess Jasmine~

yeah graded D for Dumb and you will be dumb if you wasted your good money on seeing this crap!

Cedric is just not Funny

[Living In a '70's Dream]

Originally Posted by RetroTVCollector

Cedric is just not Funny

The whole movie looks lame, taking a classic and ruining with it by starring these unfunny actors....

[ABlairican Pie]

Usually when they remake a movie based on a classic t.v. series, you expect the actors to bear a distinct resemblance to the characters on the show, especially when you have a character with a definite identity, i.e., Jackie Gleason as Ralph Cramden. Jackie Gleason was an unforgettable entertainer who put his own stamp on his character of Ralph Cramden, who became the inspiration for Fred Flintstone. It just doesn't work when you have, for one, an actor who is a person of color that does not resemble Gleason/Cramden nor share in the characteristics that made them unique, the irascible, portly bus driver who yells at his wife and chums it up with his happy-go-lucky pal Ed Norton. Does it seem more like, "black" comedy (for lack of better term) for Cedric the Entertainer to assume a certain recognized roll? You see certain mannerisms indicative of African-American culture entertainment that had no connection with the original t.v. series. But then, the show was very basic slapstick comedy that would be hard to update 50 years after it first came out, and the only way to update it was set it in a low-income neighborhood with, you guessed it, people of color. It may be funny (or NOT)
on its own merits, but people expect it to be more like the original sitcom, and it's not, from what I understand.

Interesting, though, with the movie Wild Wild West, Will Smith made an obvious choice for the main character because of his work in sci-fi/action/adventure movies and it actually worked, even though the main character in the t.v. series was white. Sad, though, original actor James Arness was appalled and angry that a "BLACK PERSON" played his character.

Not that people of color can't play white characters, but when a definite image of a pre-existing character already exists in the audience's mind, it's hard to alter it. Ethnicity does seem to play a part in how it's interpreted.

[Dr. Jazz]

Originally Posted by Captain ABlairica

Interesting, though, with the movie Wild Wild West, Will Smith made an obvious choice for the main character because of his work in sci-fi/action/adventure movies and it actually worked, even though the main character in the t.v. series was white. Sad, though, original actor James Arness was appalled and angry that a "BLACK PERSON" played his character.
.

You mean Robert Conrad, James Arness was in "Gunsmoke." I'm having a hard time accepting Burt Reynolds as Boss Hogg. They should have at least gotten a plus-sized actor to play the role.

[ABlairican Pie]

Originally Posted by Dr. Jazz

You mean Robert Conrad, James Arness was in "Gunsmoke." I'm having a hard time accepting Burt Reynolds as Boss Hogg. They should have at least gotten a plus-sized actor to play the role.

Me and some others were talking about Robert Conrad on Wild Wild West. I forgot. It's been a while since I saw Westerns on t.v.

I suppose "Little House on the Prairie" doesn't count?

[TVFactFan]

Cedric is a BAD actor, Below Average Comedian, and should not be receiving th credit he does. I can't stand his fat A$$

[TripperFan]

I have absolutely NO interest in seeing this piece of garbage (as you say, just from the ads it looks horrible).

You just can't mess with the original Ralph and Ed!

[Brian Damage]

Originally Posted by Captain ABlairica

Usually when they remake a movie based on a classic t.v. series, you expect the actors to bear a distinct resemblance to the characters on the show, especially when you have a character with a definite identity, i.e., Jackie Gleason as Ralph Cramden. Jackie Gleason was an unforgettable entertainer who put his own stamp on his character of Ralph Cramden, who became the inspiration for Fred Flintstone. It just doesn't work when you have, for one, an actor who is a person of color that does not resemble Gleason/Cramden nor share in the characteristics that made them unique, the irascible, portly bus driver who yells at his wife and chums it up with his happy-go-lucky pal Ed Norton. Does it seem more like, "black" comedy (for lack of better term) for Cedric the Entertainer to assume a certain recognized roll? You see certain mannerisms indicative of African-American culture entertainment that had no connection with the original t.v. series. But then, the show was very basic slapstick comedy that would be hard to update 50 years after it first came out, and the only way to update it was set it in a low-income neighborhood with, you guessed it, people of color. It may be funny (or NOT)
on its own merits, but people expect it to be more like the original sitcom, and it's not, from what I understand.

Interesting, though, with the movie Wild Wild West, Will Smith made an obvious choice for the main character because of his work in sci-fi/action/adventure movies and it actually worked, even though the main character in the t.v. series was white. Sad, though, original actor James Arness was appalled and angry that a "BLACK PERSON" played his character.

Not that people of color can't play white characters, but when a definite image of a pre-existing character already exists in the audience's mind, it's hard to alter it. Ethnicity does seem to play a part in how it's interpreted.

It only made a little over 5 million in its first weekend which makes it a flop and I'm glad. Ablairica, I agree with you 100%, that's like making a Good Times movie and casting a white family or casting say Danny Devito as George Jefferson.

[TVFactFan]

Originally Posted by Brian Damage

It only made a little over 5 million in its first weekend which makes it a flop and I'm glad. Ablairica, I agree with you 100%, that's like making a Good Times movie and casting a white family or casting say Danny Devito as George Jefferson.

Cedric the Entertainer is clearly overrated

[Brian Damage]

Originally Posted by RetroTVCollector

Cedric the Entertainer is clearly overrated

I agree, he seems to take any role that is offered to him.

[Cactus Jack]

Originally Posted by Brian Damage

It only made a little over 5 million in its first weekend which makes it a flop and I'm glad. Ablairica, I agree with you 100%, that's like making a Good Times movie and casting a white family or casting say Danny Devito as George Jefferson.

Actually Itd be HILARIOUS to see Danny as George

[barwars]

If it had the right actors (black or white) it would have been better. Cedric The Entertainer just isn't funny.

The character of Ralph Kramden was universal, he would have been funny black or white. Being white wasn't part of the character.

Whereas characters like Archie Bunker and George Jefferson need to be the specific color they are.


But The Honeymooners was a very basic premise. It's not something that succeeded because of the storyline. People watched it because Jackie Gleason and Art Carnie were funny. Nobody cares about the characters without the original actors.

(whereas with The Brady Bunch Movie, it was hysterical, because nobody cared about the original actors)

[Brian Damage]

Originally Posted by barwars

If it had the right actors (black or white) it would have been better. Cedric The Entertainer just isn't funny.

The character of Ralph Kramden was universal, he would have been funny black or white. Being white wasn't part of the character.

Whereas characters like Archie Bunker and George Jefferson need to be the specific color they are.


But The Honeymooners was a very basic premise. It's not something that succeeded because of the storyline. People watched it because Jackie Gleason and Art Carnie were funny. Nobody cares about the characters without the original actors.

(whereas with The Brady Bunch Movie, it was hysterical, because nobody cared about the original actors)

I disagree with you. Die hard fans of the Honeymooners(like myself) see Ralph a certain way. A movie remake was utterly ridiculous no matter who they put in the role. Hey, let's cast Ashton Kutcher as JJ Evans.