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*MIBabe03* · 06-08-2005, 01:27 PM

Jesus died of blood clot, Israeli researcher says
Expert: Crucifixion caused pulmonary embolism, not fatal blood loss

Philippe Antonello / AP
Actor Jim Caviezel, portraying Jesus, is shown nailed to the cross on the set of "The Passion of the Christ" in a publicity photo.

Updated: 1:08 p.m. ET June 8, 2005JERUSALEM - An Israeli researcher has challenged the popular belief that Jesus died of blood loss on the cross, saying he probably succumbed to a sometimes fatal disorder now associated with long-haul air travel.

Professor Benjamin Brenner wrote in The Journal of Thrombosis and Haemostasis that Jesus’ death, traditionally believed to have occurred 3 to 6 hours after crucifixion began, was probably caused by a blood clot that reached his lungs.

Such pulmonary embolisms, leading to sudden death, can stem from immobilization, multiple trauma and dehydration, said Brenner, a researcher at Rambam Medical Center in Haifa.

“This fits well with Jesus’ condition and actually was in all likelihood the major cause of death by crucifixion,” he wrote in the article, based on religious and medical texts.

A 1986 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association mentioned the possibility that Jesus suffered a blood clot but concluded that he died of blood loss.

But Brenner said research into blood coagulation had made significant strides over the past two decades.

He said recent medical research has linked immobility among passengers on lengthy air flights to deep vein thrombosis, popularly known as “economy-class syndrome” in which potentially fatal blood clots can develop, usually in the lower legs.

Brenner noted that before crucifixion, Jesus underwent scourging, but the researcher concluded that “the amount of blood loss by itself” would not have killed him.

He said that Jesus, as a Jew from what is now northern Israel, may have been particularly at risk of a fatal blood clot.

Thrombophilia, a rare condition in which blood has an increased tendency to clot, is common to natives of the Galilee, the researcher wrote.

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I don't know if I agree with it, I just thought it was interesting.

Max Whittaker · 06-08-2005, 01:51 PM

I always thought death by crucifixion involved suffication.

Either way, I think it's a moot point. People focus so much on his death, and not on what the death repressents: salvation.

Seinatra · 06-08-2005, 04:42 PM

Doctors have a hard time figuring out what is wrong with patients that are right in front of them, that they have the opportunity to examine and test.

Yet they have a diagnosis for a death that occured 2000 years ago? Give me a break. Quack, quack.

dawsongirl · 06-08-2005, 08:48 PM

lol...yeah. That's like those people that figured out what killed Napoleon. Can we focus on people nowadays please?? I don't mind cold cases (actually I find them interesting), but these are so cold, you can't dethaw them.

*MIBabe03* · 06-08-2005, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dawsongirl

lol...yeah. That's like those people that figured out what killed Napoleon. Can we focus on people nowadays please?? I don't mind cold cases (actually I find them interesting), but these are so cold, you can't dethaw them.

LMAO. Yeah I agree. I posted this story because the guy sounds nuts.

dawsongirl · 06-08-2005, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Desperate_Fan03

LMAO. Yeah I agree. I posted this story because the guy sounds nuts.

I agree with that.

marmalade · 06-08-2005, 09:36 PM

Haha

EmoJoe · 06-08-2005, 09:50 PM

o_O

MsOrange · 06-08-2005, 10:32 PM

...and this helps us how?

Mr. Television · 06-08-2005, 11:17 PM

ABlairican Pie · 06-09-2005, 12:25 AM

I had heard there were a combination of things which killed Jesus, or that he at least suffered.

06-08-2005, 01:27 PM	#1
MIBabe03 Loving Swingtown! Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 28, 2002 Location: TX Posts: 4,646	Jesus Died from Blood Clot Jesus died of blood clot, Israeli researcher says Expert: Crucifixion caused pulmonary embolism, not fatal blood loss Philippe Antonello / AP Actor Jim Caviezel, portraying Jesus, is shown nailed to the cross on the set of "The Passion of the Christ" in a publicity photo. Updated: 1:08 p.m. ET June 8, 2005JERUSALEM - An Israeli researcher has challenged the popular belief that Jesus died of blood loss on the cross, saying he probably succumbed to a sometimes fatal disorder now associated with long-haul air travel. Professor Benjamin Brenner wrote in The Journal of Thrombosis and Haemostasis that Jesus’ death, traditionally believed to have occurred 3 to 6 hours after crucifixion began, was probably caused by a blood clot that reached his lungs. Such pulmonary embolisms, leading to sudden death, can stem from immobilization, multiple trauma and dehydration, said Brenner, a researcher at Rambam Medical Center in Haifa. “This fits well with Jesus’ condition and actually was in all likelihood the major cause of death by crucifixion,” he wrote in the article, based on religious and medical texts. A 1986 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association mentioned the possibility that Jesus suffered a blood clot but concluded that he died of blood loss. But Brenner said research into blood coagulation had made significant strides over the past two decades. He said recent medical research has linked immobility among passengers on lengthy air flights to deep vein thrombosis, popularly known as “economy-class syndrome” in which potentially fatal blood clots can develop, usually in the lower legs. Brenner noted that before crucifixion, Jesus underwent scourging, but the researcher concluded that “the amount of blood loss by itself” would not have killed him. He said that Jesus, as a Jew from what is now northern Israel, may have been particularly at risk of a fatal blood clot. Thrombophilia, a rare condition in which blood has an increased tendency to clot, is common to natives of the Galilee, the researcher wrote. Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. I don't know if I agree with it, I just thought it was interesting.
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06-08-2005, 04:42 PM	#3
Seinatra Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 29, 2004 Location: Gran Chaco Posts: 1,840	Doctors have a hard time figuring out what is wrong with patients that are right in front of them, that they have the opportunity to examine and test. Yet they have a diagnosis for a death that occured 2000 years ago? Give me a break. Quack, quack.

06-08-2005, 08:48 PM	#4
dawsongirl Member Forum Icon Join Date: Jan 04, 2001 Posts: 53,140	lol...yeah. That's like those people that figured out what killed Napoleon. Can we focus on people nowadays please?? I don't mind cold cases (actually I find them interesting), but these are so cold, you can't dethaw them.

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