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Blackout · 05-22-2005, 03:22 AM

I was just watching the Albert Leon Fletcher case and the Larry George case, and got to thinking about who was the most ruthless criminal UM ever profiled

ofcourse its easy to go with Richard Ramirez or Zodiac, but alot of the lesser known criminals were just as sick

nightbird · 10-21-2005, 12:15 AM

I am curious why you named Albert Leon Fletcher? If you look in the archives of the St Petersburg Times, Tampa Tribune or Lakeland Ledger you will see his cousin Douglas Porter confessed that he was the shooter.
His cousin received two consecutive life sentences and they were overturned after he testified at the Fletcher trial that Albert Leon Fletcher was the shooter, even though witnesses came on the stand and said Porter had confessed.
The judge refused to allow the forensic evidence into the trial showing Fletcher had not handled the weapon that killed the man, yet another gun they had with them that night,.
Anyway the judge instructed the jury that it didn't matter who the shooter was and they were tried under Florida's Principal Law.
Fletcher got a life sentence, and his cousin gets out in 2015 after cutting after cutting a deal for his testimony.
Well if they were tried as principals and his cousin gets out in 2015, he should have the same sentence too shouldn't he under that law??
Its all in the papers I mentioned above, some show the archived articles free of charge.
Fletchers escape made fools of Polk County and Pascoe County and when he came back they threw the book at him. They even tried to give him the death penalty.
This case is interesting because so much evidence was not admitted into court, also the court appointed attorney Fletcher had for 18 months dropped his case right before trial, and the judge who sat on the case was her husband.
The attorneys he then got only met him the day of jury selection.
He has papers filed to try and get a new trial with Polk County due to the conflict of interest of the judge being married to his lawyer, and also the forensic evidence from the Florida Department Of Law Enforcement Crime Lab that was not admitted is considered "newly discovered evidence" and grounds for a new trial. The gun with his cousins fingerprints and his cousin had gunpowder from handling has the victims blood splatter on it.

themaninblack · 10-21-2005, 07:17 AM

the person who killed all those dogs was just as bad

JimmyHendricks · 10-24-2005, 03:16 PM

Three Words: Edward. Harold. Bell.

rykey · 10-26-2005, 01:00 AM

It's hard to pick THE most menacing people on UM, but I always thought one guy was pretty nuts.
He was a guy in his 40s who married a young girl with whom he worked. Can't remember what he and his family were arguing about, but at one point he threatened to kill someone. His little daughter said, "you wouldn't kill me, daddy," and he got right in her face and said, "yeah, I'd kill you too!"
He was allegedly seen visiting the grave of the wife he was accused of killing.

dynoguy88 · 10-26-2005, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rykey

It's hard to pick THE most menacing people on UM, but I always thought one guy was pretty nuts.
He was a guy in his 40s who married a young girl with whom he worked. Can't remember what he and his family were arguing about, but at one point he threatened to kill someone. His little daughter said, "you wouldn't kill me, daddy," and he got right in her face and said, "yeah, I'd kill you too!"
He was allegedly seen visiting the grave of the wife he was accused of killing.

Jim Burnside. Evil, evil man. Thank GOD he is behind bars where he belongs.

HyeTev · 12-14-2005, 11:24 AM

Did James Burnside get the death penalty?

SitcomsAreTheWay · 12-18-2005, 11:10 AM

He had some nerve telling his daughter that, he's an example of a person that doesn't deserve to have children. Period.

And Edward Harold Bell is exactly where he SHOULD be. I can't imagine the relief that Larry's sister and mother felt having to watch that pervert/murderer being escorted by the authorities.

Kane · 12-19-2005, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HyeTev

Did James Burnside get the death penalty?

It looks to me that he got life in prison, instead of the death penalty, although someone living in Florida (where Burnside butchered his wife in 1988) is most likely to know the actual outcome. I found two links related to Florida's death row.

One lists current death row inmates:

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/activeinma...hrowroster.asp

Another lists Florida executions:

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/deathrow/execlist.html

Jim Burnside is not on either list.

Dislimb · 03-27-2006, 10:18 AM

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInma...onID=860362896

greatgarrett2 · 03-28-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyHendricks

Three Words: Edward. Harold. Bell.

You read my mind lol

synthisislab · 05-07-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HyeTev

Did James Burnside get the death penalty?

No, but at least he's behind bars for the rest of his life.
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInma...onID=159105489

Dislimb · 05-08-2008, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by synthisislab

No, but at least he's behind bars for the rest of his life.
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInma...onID=159105489

Wrong guy, dude.

This is who we're looking for:

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInma...onID=159218602

synthisislab · 05-08-2008, 04:55 AM

What the hell? I could have sworn I put up the link to the right page. My browser never even opened the link I provided, but somehow when I copied and pasted, it pasted the wrong link. Strange.

Next time I'll check the links before I post them. Thanks for the correction.

Thinman · 05-08-2008, 08:39 AM

Blind River rest stop killer and "Debby's" attacker.

05-22-2005, 03:22 AM	#1
Blackout Sart Bimpson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 13, 2003 Location: where the sun rises Posts: 2,236	Most ruthless criminal profiled on UM before? I was just watching the Albert Leon Fletcher case and the Larry George case, and got to thinking about who was the most ruthless criminal UM ever profiled ofcourse its easy to go with Richard Ramirez or Zodiac, but alot of the lesser known criminals were just as sick
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10-21-2005, 12:15 AM	#2
nightbird Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 13, 2005 Posts: 15	I am curious why you named Albert Leon Fletcher? If you look in the archives of the St Petersburg Times, Tampa Tribune or Lakeland Ledger you will see his cousin Douglas Porter confessed that he was the shooter. His cousin received two consecutive life sentences and they were overturned after he testified at the Fletcher trial that Albert Leon Fletcher was the shooter, even though witnesses came on the stand and said Porter had confessed. The judge refused to allow the forensic evidence into the trial showing Fletcher had not handled the weapon that killed the man, yet another gun they had with them that night,. Anyway the judge instructed the jury that it didn't matter who the shooter was and they were tried under Florida's Principal Law. Fletcher got a life sentence, and his cousin gets out in 2015 after cutting after cutting a deal for his testimony. Well if they were tried as principals and his cousin gets out in 2015, he should have the same sentence too shouldn't he under that law?? Its all in the papers I mentioned above, some show the archived articles free of charge. Fletchers escape made fools of Polk County and Pascoe County and when he came back they threw the book at him. They even tried to give him the death penalty. This case is interesting because so much evidence was not admitted into court, also the court appointed attorney Fletcher had for 18 months dropped his case right before trial, and the judge who sat on the case was her husband. The attorneys he then got only met him the day of jury selection. He has papers filed to try and get a new trial with Polk County due to the conflict of interest of the judge being married to his lawyer, and also the forensic evidence from the Florida Department Of Law Enforcement Crime Lab that was not admitted is considered "newly discovered evidence" and grounds for a new trial. The gun with his cousins fingerprints and his cousin had gunpowder from handling has the victims blood splatter on it.

10-21-2005, 07:17 AM	#3
themaninblack Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 573	the person who killed all those dogs was just as bad

10-24-2005, 03:16 PM	#4
JimmyHendricks Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 11, 2004 Posts: 112	Three Words: Edward. Harold. Bell.

10-26-2005, 01:00 AM	#5
rykey Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 07, 2005 Posts: 19	It's hard to pick THE most menacing people on UM, but I always thought one guy was pretty nuts. He was a guy in his 40s who married a young girl with whom he worked. Can't remember what he and his family were arguing about, but at one point he threatened to kill someone. His little daughter said, "you wouldn't kill me, daddy," and he got right in her face and said, "yeah, I'd kill you too!" He was allegedly seen visiting the grave of the wife he was accused of killing.

12-14-2005, 11:24 AM	#7
HyeTev Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 14, 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 155	Did James Burnside get the death penalty?

12-18-2005, 11:10 AM	#8
SitcomsAreTheWay Retro Sitcoms Fanatic Forum Regular Join Date: May 12, 2002 Location: NY Posts: 612	He had some nerve telling his daughter that, he's an example of a person that doesn't deserve to have children. Period. And Edward Harold Bell is exactly where he SHOULD be. I can't imagine the relief that Larry's sister and mother felt having to watch that pervert/murderer being escorted by the authorities.

03-27-2006, 10:18 AM	#10
Dislimb Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 23, 2006 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 431	http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInma...onID=860362896

05-08-2008, 04:55 AM	#14
synthisislab Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 552	What the hell? I could have sworn I put up the link to the right page. My browser never even opened the link I provided, but somehow when I copied and pasted, it pasted the wrong link. Strange. Next time I'll check the links before I post them. Thanks for the correction.

05-08-2008, 08:39 AM	#15
Thinman Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 08, 2005 Posts: 182	Blind River rest stop killer and "Debby's" attacker.