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seventies_sitcoms · 05-16-2005, 01:24 PM

Did anybody like this show after Viv left. I know Lucy was determined to go on without any of her I Love Lucy co-stars. I would've rather seen new interesting characters instead of all the hokey guest stars. I really don't like that many of them at all except for a very few ( Carol Burnett, Joan Crawford). I guess it was impossible to find a Viv replacement, so they just had everybody in Hollywood guest star on the show. I don't think you got to see enough of Lucy's own humor.

TripperFan · 05-16-2005, 01:29 PM

I did like the one she had Liz Taylor and Richard Burton on. Its about the only one I can remember even!

I'd like to see the Joan Crawford one again though - after now knowing what she was like in real life.

Actually, both she and Lucy sound like they were pretty nasty b*tiches when they wanted to be!

seventies_sitcoms · 05-16-2005, 01:40 PM

If rumor was true, Lucy was ready to fire Joan Crawford at the drop of a hat. Joan was supposed to have been drunk constantly, flubbing her lines, and Lucy wanted her people to contact Gloria Swanson to replace Joan. I like Gloria too because she had a pretty big ego and was a b*tch to boot too. I think one guest star show I REALLY like is the Lucy-Desi Hour with Tallulah Bankhead, the most immoral woman of Hollywood. I'm kind of surprised Lucy would even think of her being on the show.

TripperFan · 05-16-2005, 01:47 PM

Yeah that's true. Lucy did have a self-righteous side to her didn't she?

And yeah, by the time Joan would have been on that show, her alcoholism would have been full blown. I'm laughing now because I'm remembering the Designing Women episode where they dressed up like Joan Crawford and Bette Davis - it was well done!

BewitchedForever · 05-17-2005, 03:04 PM

I didnt know Joan guest starred.. I love the Elizabeth Taylor episode, that was really funny!

Mr. Television · 05-17-2005, 03:33 PM

Didn't Elizabeth Taylor guest star in the Here's Lucy tv series?

msuzanne69 · 05-17-2005, 05:34 PM

yeah Elizabeth Taylor was in the episode "Lucy Meets the Burtons" with her and Richard Burton.. it's on the Here's Lucy dvds out on sale!

pilotguy · 08-01-2005, 03:02 AM

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I'm laughing now because I'm remembering the Designing Women episode where they dressed up like Joan Crawford and Bette Davis - it was well done!

I know that the two women were from different eras (at least when they were at their peak), but I would have loved to have seen Lucille Ball work with Dixie Carter! I think that Dixie's very funny in an over-the-top "Tallulah Bankhead" sort of way, and it would have been hilarious to see Lucy and Dixie lock horns!

ILoveLucy2002 · 01-14-2006, 10:08 AM

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If rumor was true, Lucy was ready to fire Joan Crawford at the drop of a hat. Joan was supposed to have been drunk constantly, flubbing her lines, and Lucy wanted her people to contact Gloria Swanson to replace Joan. I like Gloria too because she had a pretty big ego and was a b*tch to boot too. I think one guest star show I REALLY like is the Lucy-Desi Hour with Tallulah Bankhead, the most immoral woman of Hollywood. I'm kind of surprised Lucy would even think of her being on the show.

I had no idea that Lucy felt that way about Joan Crawford!!

TV Knowledge Fan · 04-24-2006, 07:09 PM

...who were unprepared to deliver a good performance, or was habitually late, or drunk, or otherwise. Joan Crawford had the misfortune of being insecure (and drunk) when she filmed that "LUCY SHOW" in 1968. Lucy was "THE BOSS", and would not tolerate anyone who made HER look bad. That's why she stomped all over Ms. Crawford during the production of that episode. Only those that stood up to Lucy got along with her "famously" (including Viv, Jack Benny, etc.). We know that Lucy and Joan never worked together, professionally or otherwise, ever again. And working on THAT episode was the main reason.

treky · 04-26-2006, 02:22 AM

I think I read that she & Tallula Bankhead also didn't get along when they were filming that episode of "The Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour" that she guested on.

clj2 · 04-26-2006, 09:22 AM

I didn't like the many guest stars either. I like the episodes that just involve Lucy and Viv/Mooney more, myself.

TV Knowledge Fan · 04-26-2006, 04:08 PM

...was "hitting the sauce" a little....and was a bit too arrogant...during her appearance on "THE LUCILLE BALL-DESI ARNAZ SHOW" in December 1957
[known as "THE LUCY-DESI COMEDY HOUR" since the summer of '62], but
she wasn't known as "The Unpredictable Tallulah Bankhead" for nothing!!
Lucy realized that "Tallu", her idol, had more ego and arrogance than SHE did...and later admitted she was sorry she ever asked her to replace Bette Davis for that episode {Bette WAS supposed to play "The Celebrity Next Door", but she took a bad fall and broke a few bones before filming could begin}.

That Other Fan · 05-05-2006, 08:25 AM

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...who were unprepared to deliver a good performance, or was habitually late, or drunk, or otherwise. Joan Crawford had the misfortune of being insecure (and drunk) when she filmed that "LUCY SHOW" in 1968. Lucy was "THE BOSS", and would not tolerate anyone who made HER look bad. That's why she stomped all over Ms. Crawford during the production of that episode.

That's all according to Herbert Kenwith via his contribution to various Lucy books.

IMO, he had a personal issue with Lucy that he needs to resolve (or let go of). Example, read comments from others that were there and they say a various episode was "pleasant work week," or if there was a problem the fault (sometimes) lied with the individual on set (EX. Tallulah or Crawford), and yet Herbert always has some elaborate story that portrays Lucy as a b*tch.

I'm not saying Lucy wasn't tough. It's well documented that Lucy was tough and had the upmost control on her set. I'm just saying certain employees stories should be taken with a grain of salt. Especially Kenwith's stories...

BTW

And Jack Benny "never stood up to Lucy." There are no reports or stories of any type of acrimony between them except for a comment by Jack which some have said were meant in anger when they weren't.

05-16-2005, 01:24 PM	#1
seventies_sitcoms * Senior Member Join Date: Jan 09, 2005 Posts: 2,244	Too many special guests!! Did anybody like this show after Viv left. I know Lucy was determined to go on without any of her I Love Lucy co-stars. I would've rather seen new interesting characters instead of all the hokey guest stars. I really don't like that many of them at all except for a very few ( Carol Burnett, Joan Crawford). I guess it was impossible to find a Viv replacement, so they just had everybody in Hollywood guest star on the show. I don't think you got to see enough of Lucy's own humor.

05-16-2005, 01:29 PM	#2
TripperFan In God's Arms Now Forum Star Join Date: Sep 14, 2003 Location: Heartbreak Ridge Posts: 12,086	I did like the one she had Liz Taylor and Richard Burton on. Its about the only one I can remember even! I'd like to see the Joan Crawford one again though - after now knowing what she was like in real life. Actually, both she and Lucy sound like they were pretty nasty b*tiches when they wanted to be!
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05-17-2005, 03:04 PM	#5
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05-17-2005, 03:33 PM	#6
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05-16-2005, 01:40 PM	#3
seventies_sitcoms * Senior Member Join Date: Jan 09, 2005 Posts: 2,244	If rumor was true, Lucy was ready to fire Joan Crawford at the drop of a hat. Joan was supposed to have been drunk constantly, flubbing her lines, and Lucy wanted her people to contact Gloria Swanson to replace Joan. I like Gloria too because she had a pretty big ego and was a b*tch to boot too. I think one guest star show I REALLY like is the Lucy-Desi Hour with Tallulah Bankhead, the most immoral woman of Hollywood. I'm kind of surprised Lucy would even think of her being on the show.

05-16-2005, 01:47 PM	#4
TripperFan In God's Arms Now Forum Star Join Date: Sep 14, 2003 Location: Heartbreak Ridge Posts: 12,086	Yeah that's true. Lucy did have a self-righteous side to her didn't she? And yeah, by the time Joan would have been on that show, her alcoholism would have been full blown. I'm laughing now because I'm remembering the Designing Women episode where they dressed up like Joan Crawford and Bette Davis - it was well done!

04-24-2006, 07:09 PM	#10
TV Knowledge Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 29, 2006 Location: Long Branch, N.J. Posts: 2,577	Lucy disliked ANYONE.... ...who were unprepared to deliver a good performance, or was habitually late, or drunk, or otherwise. Joan Crawford had the misfortune of being insecure (and drunk) when she filmed that "LUCY SHOW" in 1968. Lucy was "THE BOSS", and would not tolerate anyone who made HER look bad. That's why she stomped all over Ms. Crawford during the production of that episode. Only those that stood up to Lucy got along with her "famously" (including Viv, Jack Benny, etc.). We know that Lucy and Joan never worked together, professionally or otherwise, ever again. And working on THAT episode was the main reason.

04-26-2006, 02:22 AM	#11
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04-26-2006, 09:22 AM	#12
clj2 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 16, 2005 Location: SC Posts: 3,501	I didn't like the many guest stars either. I like the episodes that just involve Lucy and Viv/Mooney more, myself.

04-26-2006, 04:08 PM	#13
TV Knowledge Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 29, 2006 Location: Long Branch, N.J. Posts: 2,577	Well, Tallulah.... ...was "hitting the sauce" a little....and was a bit too arrogant...during her appearance on "THE LUCILLE BALL-DESI ARNAZ SHOW" in December 1957 [known as "THE LUCY-DESI COMEDY HOUR" since the summer of '62], but she wasn't known as "The Unpredictable Tallulah Bankhead" for nothing!! Lucy realized that "Tallu", her idol, had more ego and arrogance than SHE did...and later admitted she was sorry she ever asked her to replace Bette Davis for that episode {Bette WAS supposed to play "The Celebrity Next Door", but she took a bad fall and broke a few bones before filming could begin}.