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Dean Winchester · 04-27-2005, 11:27 PM

Gwen Stefani did something that looked damn near impossible in today's hip hop driven climate (given, Hollaback Girl is very hip hop driven, but when did Justin Timberlake or Christina hit #1 with pop songs that were hip hop driven?). She has become the first pop/rock artist since Nickelback from Xmas 2001, NOT associated with a sales-driven American Idol single, to hit #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 Singles Chart.

I knew that pop/rock was on it's way back when Green Day and Kelly Clarkson went to #2, but Gwen finally broke the ice and hit #1. I think chart diversity is cool, but it's been to the point where pop artists have been DOA on the singles chart at least in terms of #1 hits, so it's nice to see Gwen show that pop music isn't completely dead.

vashti1999 · 04-27-2005, 11:53 PM

But isn't Eve rapping on that track? And the song itself has a heavy urban/reggae influenced beat. Gwen may be considered a pop/rock artist but that's not your typical pop/rock song.

vashti1999 · 04-28-2005, 12:12 AM

Never mind, I assumed you meant Rich Girl.

Dean Winchester · 04-28-2005, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by vashti1999

But isn't Eve rapping on that track? And the song itself has a heavy urban/reggae influenced beat. Gwen may be considered a pop/rock artist but that's not your typical pop/rock song.

you're thinking of Rich Girl, which recently peaked at #7 or #8. Hollaback Girl does kinda have a hip hop vibe to it, but it's more or less a cheerleader type anthem ala Mickey. Needless to say, I am SHOCKED it's a #1 hot 100 single, especially when I thought the song was a throwaway when I first heard the album.

vashti1999 · 04-28-2005, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BuffySlayer79

you're thinking of Rich Girl, which recently peaked at #7 or #8. Hollaback Girl does kinda have a hip hop vibe to it, but it's more or less a cheerleader type anthem ala Mickey. Needless to say, I am SHOCKED it's a #1 hot 100 single, especially when I thought the song was a throwaway when I first heard the album.

Yeah, I made a mistake, I was thinking of the other song. Still Gwen is sort of borderline. If it were Gren Day or Rob Thomas, it would really be something. I thought it was an accomplishment that Green Day did as well as they did with Boulevard of Broken Dreams.

SBTB Geek · 04-28-2005, 02:02 AM

LOL, I was like "finally!" when I heard the news this morning. I liked this song the first hundred times I heard it (and that was even before "Rich Girl" was released.) I always knew it was going to be her #1, hopefully "Bubble Pop Electric" is next!

Kelly Clarkson might finally get to #1, her new single "Behind These Hazel Eyes" seems to be doing quite well, and so is Mariah with "We Belong Together."

Dean Winchester · 04-28-2005, 03:04 AM

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LOL, I was like "finally!" when I heard the news this morning. I liked this song the first hundred times I heard it (and that was even before "Rich Girl" was released.) I always knew it was going to be her #1, hopefully "Bubble Pop Electric" is next!

Kelly Clarkson might finally get to #1, her new single "Behind These Hazel Eyes" seems to be doing quite well, and so is Mariah with "We Belong Together."

I agree. I don't have an issue with r&b/hip hop artists at #1, but you gotta admit 3 1/2 years was a little too long of a monopoly (well, I don't count "A Moment Like This" or Clay's single, because both songs went to #1 solely on high sales, and Kelly's song only got modest airplay and Clay's got zilch here). Even in the late 1970's when disco was overexposed, there were non-disco tracks that topped the charts, and yet people look back at the disco era in retrospect that "disco was too big and too overplayed", it's run wasn't as huge or as long as the 3 1/2 year run that r&b/hip hop ruled. There are a lot of songs like Hey Ya, Crazy In Love, Yeah, and the sort that certainly were #1-worthy and really were as big as the charts made it, but a lot of songs that one would think would be a #1 but wasn't hip hop radio-friendly didn't make it to the top.

I think every genre has songs that have "#1" to it. But the past few years it seems like hip hop has had such a stranglehold on the singles chart that it was like pop and rock music just upped and died. Even songs such as "Here Without You", "She Will Be Loved" and "Bring Me To Life" that easily would've been #1 hits in 1999/2000, had to settle for #5 or so, behind hip hop tracks that seemingly weren't nearly as overplayed.

Does anyone else find it funny that Gwen hits #1 when Jennifer Lopez is started to flop? J. Lo was the artist who really made hip hop music accessable to audiences that shunned it before. She was the one who really turned gay men and preppy schoolgirls hip hop friendly, whereas when Mariah tried it a few years earlier, it hurt her instead of helped. Probably because when she hooked up with Ja Rule, everyone was getting burnt out on bubblegum pop music, and it was a refuge, but then it ended up becoming the same monster that teen pop had become.

Superstar · 04-30-2005, 03:00 AM

I'm glad, I love Gwen. It would be cool if Hollaback Girl did the same thing over the next few weeks.

Courtnee · 04-30-2005, 08:41 AM

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I knew that pop/rock was on it's way back when Green Day and Kelly Clarkson went to #2, but Gwen finally broke the ice and hit #1.

Green Day is Alt. rock,not pop/rock.

Dean Winchester · 04-30-2005, 12:45 PM

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Green Day is Alt. rock,not pop/rock.

don't be so damn defensive, I was listening to Green Day when you were in diapers. You probably are too young to remember the first time they were popular back in the summer of 1994, I was there. I remember when Woodstock 94 transformed them into superstars practically overnight, and when my entire class was singing Basketcase on the bus during a field trip. I can't believe I'm having to defend myself.

The point was, Green Day had a #2 single... AND THEY WEREN'T R&B/HIP HOP. R&B/Hip Hop acts have pretty much monopolized the singles charts since 2002, so for any artist who doesn't fit the label can hit #2 on the Hot 100 chart is freaking miraculous. And I said pop / rock as in two different genres, not the same thing. Either way, we're both in agreement that Green Day isn't r&b or hip hop music, so I don't see what your point in correcting me is, because I was saying "I knew pop and rock were on their way back when Green Day and Kelly Clarkson were managing to score #2 hits on the Hot 100".

MissZero · 04-30-2005, 08:01 PM

I miss the old Gwen

felicitylen · 04-30-2005, 08:14 PM

I'm happy for Gwen! I think that she still rocks just like when she was with NoDoubt.

Superstar · 05-01-2005, 05:11 AM

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I miss the old Gwen

you mean the No DOubt Gwen?

Rhiannon · 05-02-2005, 12:48 PM

that ****'s bananas!

SBTB Geek · 05-02-2005, 01:16 PM

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Green Day is Alt. rock,not pop/rock.

You don't consider "Minority," "Holiday," or "Nice Guys Finish Last" pop/rock?... Because that's what they sound like to me.

Plus, isn't pop/rock a form of alt. rock?

04-30-2005, 08:01 PM	#11
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05-02-2005, 12:48 PM	#14
Rhiannon oh, snap! Forum Fanatic Join Date: Jul 19, 2002 Location: middle of nowhere Posts: 11,097	that ****'s bananas!
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04-27-2005, 11:27 PM	#1
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	Congrats Gwen! Gwen Stefani did something that looked damn near impossible in today's hip hop driven climate (given, Hollaback Girl is very hip hop driven, but when did Justin Timberlake or Christina hit #1 with pop songs that were hip hop driven?). She has become the first pop/rock artist since Nickelback from Xmas 2001, NOT associated with a sales-driven American Idol single, to hit #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 Singles Chart. I knew that pop/rock was on it's way back when Green Day and Kelly Clarkson went to #2, but Gwen finally broke the ice and hit #1. I think chart diversity is cool, but it's been to the point where pop artists have been DOA on the singles chart at least in terms of #1 hits, so it's nice to see Gwen show that pop music isn't completely dead.

04-27-2005, 11:53 PM	#2
vashti1999 NY METS - #1 Forum Fanatic Join Date: Oct 14, 2003 Location: The world's greatest city - New York City Posts: 11,404	But isn't Eve rapping on that track? And the song itself has a heavy urban/reggae influenced beat. Gwen may be considered a pop/rock artist but that's not your typical pop/rock song.
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04-28-2005, 12:12 AM	#3
vashti1999 NY METS - #1 Forum Fanatic Join Date: Oct 14, 2003 Location: The world's greatest city - New York City Posts: 11,404	Never mind, I assumed you meant Rich Girl.

04-28-2005, 02:02 AM	#6
SBTB Geek Smooth Moderator Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 21, 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,004	LOL, I was like "finally!" when I heard the news this morning. I liked this song the first hundred times I heard it (and that was even before "Rich Girl" was released.) I always knew it was going to be her #1, hopefully "Bubble Pop Electric" is next! Kelly Clarkson might finally get to #1, her new single "Behind These Hazel Eyes" seems to be doing quite well, and so is Mariah with "We Belong Together."

04-30-2005, 03:00 AM	#8
Superstar Member Forum Icon Join Date: Dec 08, 2003 Posts: 63,316	I'm glad, I love Gwen. It would be cool if Hollaback Girl did the same thing over the next few weeks.

04-30-2005, 08:14 PM	#12
felicitylen Keep Austin WEIRD Senior Member Join Date: Apr 17, 2003 Location: Hook 'em Horns Posts: 1,606	I'm happy for Gwen! I think that she still rocks just like when she was with NoDoubt.